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Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => World and local news => Topic started by: Gimli on May 07, 2012, 06:36:31 am
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File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled. Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media must all prevent their users from accessing the site.
Read more here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17894176 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17894176)
Thoughts? The filter, created by BT with funding from the government, was originally intended to solely be used to prevent child pornography from being accessed, not facilitate censorship.. Oh well, either way, this will have no effect on those who want to reach TPB as the UK's Pirate Party have already set up a mirror..
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Even if my company is OBLIGED to block it in denmark i can acces it ;D They fail misserably since piratebay changed from .com to a other
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Google Public DNS, well that's what I heard from others. Didn't try that thing, but it's worth a shot if you want to keep visiting the ship.
Arr Arr
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Well fuck...
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Meh.
I have plenty of ways to get around a shitty filter.
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They are going to find other ways of uploading for UK guys. Nice to see that no one thinks at romania, here the piracy is growing like a flower since 2003. :lol:
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http://tpb.europeancensorship.eu/nph-tpb.cgi/http/thepiratebay.se/ (http://tpb.europeancensorship.eu/nph-tpb.cgi/http/thepiratebay.se/)
http://thepiratebay.se.proxy.piratenpartij.nl/ (http://thepiratebay.se.proxy.piratenpartij.nl/)
http://www.pirateproxy.net/ (http://www.pirateproxy.net/)
http://hidemyass.com/ (http://hidemyass.com/)
Don't know if I am allowed to post this..
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File-sharing site The Pirate Bay must be blocked by UK internet service providers, the High Court has ruled. Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media must all prevent their users from accessing the site.
Read more here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17894176 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17894176)
Thoughts? The filter, created by BT with funding from the government, was originally intended to solely be used to prevent child pornography from being accessed, not facilitate censorship.. Oh well, either way, this will have no effect on those who want to reach TPB as the UK's Pirate Party have already set up a mirror..
Whell i am in Serbia so.... IN YOUR FACE UK BUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!! :war: :sig:
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Meh, never used it anyway.
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Nathan Explosion- NOOOOOO! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfbK_dbsCu0#)
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*video*
NO GOD! PLEASE NO!!! NOOOOOOOOOO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc#)
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easy to bypass, but it's still absolute bullshit
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Piratebay reported a increase of 12million users after this block went through, good job media.
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Well f**k me.
/me fucks Abraham.
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Piratebay reported a increase of 12million users after this block went through, good job media.
Piratebay reported a increase of 12million users after this block went through, good job media. government.
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Doesn't concern or bother me, not a big user of free download websites. :razz:
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>Implying fighting piracy is a bad thing.
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>Implying fighting piracy is a bad thing.
I'm not going to stoop to your level, but do you honestly think that giving money to the people who already have billions of dollars is "good" in any way?
While I am going to buy Paradox games, I'm certainly not giving a dime to Bioware or EA, despite enjoying a few of their games.
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In Holland TPB is blocked with only two providers: XS4ALL and Ziggo.. Too bad I'm under XS4ALL..
These are the URLs they blocked:
thepiratebay.org
[url=http://www.thepiratebay.org]www.thepiratebay.org[/url]
thepiratebay.com
thepiratebay.net
thepiratebay.se
piratebay.org
piratebay.net
piratebay.se
[url=http://www.thepiratebay.com]www.thepiratebay.com[/url]
[url=http://www.thepiratebay.net]www.thepiratebay.net[/url]
[url=http://www.thepiratebay.se]www.thepiratebay.se[/url]
[url=http://www.piratebay.org]www.piratebay.org[/url]
[url=http://www.piratebay.net]www.piratebay.net[/url]
[url=http://www.piratebay.se]www.piratebay.se[/url]
depiraatbay.be
piratebay.am
themusicbay.net
themusicbay.org
[url=http://www.themusicbay.net]www.themusicbay.net[/url]
[url=http://www.themusicbay.org]www.themusicbay.org[/url]
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I'm not going to stoop to your level, but do you honestly think that giving money to the people who already have billions of dollars is "good" in any way?
Yes, because they have managed to create valuable products that are worth billions and employ thousands of people.
Sadly, I would be a hypocrite if I said I am against piracy, however over the years I've been trying to avoid it as much as I can. For example, I have switched to using paid music streaming services such as Spotify and, more recently, Grooveshark. Different story with TV shows though, mainly due to them being put on platforms such as iTunes much later than they are aired on TV..
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Mine was blocked to, But i turned off javascript and now I can download again :weed:
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Yes, because they have managed to create valuable products that are worth billions and employ thousands of people.
The thing is, recently they've blatantly stopped caring about the consumer and are banning anyone from their forums who's unhappy with the game they've bought, even if it's just constructive criticism with no insults whatsoever. Not to mention the day 1 DLC.
They're certainly not the company that worked hard to get their funds in the past anymore.
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I'm not going to stoop to your level, but do you honestly think that giving money to the people who already have billions of dollars is "good" in any way?
While I am going to buy Paradox games, I'm certainly not giving a dime to Bioware or EA, despite enjoying a few of their games.
Then give the money to other developers and ignore the game completely. If you want to play the game then its worth the money in my opinion. As long as I enjoy it I couldn't give a rats ass about what the developers like. There are very talented people who make these games, you need to stop looking at developers as these huge evil corporations and instead see them as the individuals that spend there time making something for you to enjoy.
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Oh well, lucky me, got a government that needs 20 years ahead to get to know to such things. :lol:
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Then give the money to other developers and ignore the game completely. If you want to play the game then its worth the money in my opinion. As long as I enjoy it I couldn't give a rats ass about what the developers like. There are very talented people who make these games, you need to stop looking at developers as these huge evil corporations and instead see them as the individuals that spend there time making something for you to enjoy.
Developers get a paycheck. The company gets profits. :trust:
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Oh well, lucky me, got a government that needs 20 years ahead to get to know to such things. :lol:
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Why bother? The more they try to control the internet, the more connections will slip through their fingers.
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Why bother? The more they try to control the internet, the more connections will slip through their fingers.
Copyright security company logic: We make it harder to download stuff, which will make more people buy our products.
Real world: Piratebay is blocked, use another site.
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Real world: Piratebay is blocked, use another site.
Exactly, theres no point...
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Copyright security company logic: We make it harder to download stuff, which will make more people buy our products.
Real world: Piratebay is blocked, use another site.
Copyright security company logic: We make it harder to download stuff, which will make more people buy our products.
Real world: Piratebay is blocked, use another site a mirror. :)
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Copyright security company logic: We make it harder to download stuff, which will make more people buy our products.
Real world: Piratebay is blocked, use another site a mirror. :)
I'd love to but..
These are the URLs they blocked:
thepiratebay.org
[url=http://www.thepiratebay.org]www.thepiratebay.org[/url]
thepiratebay.com
thepiratebay.net
thepiratebay.se
piratebay.org
piratebay.net
piratebay.se
[url=http://www.thepiratebay.com]www.thepiratebay.com[/url]
[url=http://www.thepiratebay.net]www.thepiratebay.net[/url]
[url=http://www.thepiratebay.se]www.thepiratebay.se[/url]
[url=http://www.piratebay.org]www.piratebay.org[/url]
[url=http://www.piratebay.net]www.piratebay.net[/url]
[url=http://www.piratebay.se]www.piratebay.se[/url]
depiraatbay.be
piratebay.am
themusicbay.net
themusicbay.org
[url=http://www.themusicbay.net]www.themusicbay.net[/url]
[url=http://www.themusicbay.org]www.themusicbay.org[/url]
The Dutch courts may accept retarded laws, but they're not stupid. :(
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Some dutch guy will find a way to get around the courts' blockade easily. :cool:
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At least I can access from within the Vatican :pop: (and even when I'm not, since my ISP isn't affected...yet :banana:).
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The Pirate Bay will be blocked in The Netherlands also ( all providers)
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The thing is, recently they've blatantly stopped caring about the consumer
Indeed. I see no reason to give any of my money to EA or any of its subsidiaries. Those working at the companies already lost their jobs when they got absorbed by EA. Even if they're still legally employed, it's only a matter of time before they get laid off and their company disbanded.
more ot:
dohoho internet, good one
(http://i50.tinypic.com/n9zyc.png)
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Indeed. I see no reason to give any of my money to EA or any of its subsidiaries. Those working at the companies already lost their jobs when they got absorbed by EA. Even if they're still legally employed, it's only a matter of time before they get laid off and their company disbanded.
more ot:
dohoho internet, good one
(http://i50.tinypic.com/n9zyc.png)
You know nothing about business.
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You know nothing about business.
Care to elaborate?
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Use a vpn, problem solved.
Legal way to access piratebay website again, illegal way to magnet torrents from it.
Hotspotshield should do the trick, just make sure you have adblock.
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Use a vpn, problem solved.
Legal way to access piratebay website again, illegal way to magnet torrents from it.
Hotspotshield should do the trick, just make sure you have adblock.
99% of people who are going to the piratebay are going to download illegal shit any way.
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You know nothing about business.
Please enlighten us with your busy knowledge of business, which will make our vision about business better in a businessier way, Mr. Business.
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CAPITALISM IS FAILING
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CAPITALISM IS FAILING
RISE UP AND GIVE JOBS TO THE POOR UNEMPLOYED MEXICAN POPULATION OF LOS ANGELES
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RISE UP AND GIVE JOBS TO THE POOR UNEMPLOYED MEXICAN POPULATION OF LOS ANGELES
If I was unemployed and living in L.A, I'de still be happy... I mean you live in L.A, go down Rodeo Drive, Beverly Hills or Long Beach and smell like a hobo round all the rich people. :D
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Still works fine on O2/BE. :conf:
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Still works fine on O2/BE. :conf:
they log your downloads, and once you get trapped, BOOM they sue you and give a share of the "earnings" to your isp.
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they log your downloads, and once you get trapped, BOOM they sue you and give a share of the "earnings" to your isp.
Doesn't work like that here.
We have a 3 strike system. ISP's HAVE to give you TWO warnings about copyright infringement before they are required to gave out your details to a party whos copyright has been infringed.
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This sudden surge of anti-piracy shit is ridiculous.
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This sudden surge of anti-piracy shit is ridiculous.
http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-outfits-launch-attack-on-bittorrent-protocol-120519/ (http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-outfits-launch-attack-on-bittorrent-protocol-120519/)
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Anyone else here think Pirate Bay sounds like a porn website? :D
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"Anti-Piracy" my ass. It's all money, money, and more money.
What if someone copyrighted the wheel so that only the Sumerians would have it?
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All's gonna be fine,as always.
Finally, they're doing something against these pirates. They're hurting sales, I hope alot of countries start blocking TPB and their proxies soon
You can spend money on worthless shit if you prefer,sir. We won't stop you from it.
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Finally, they're doing something against these pirates. They're hurting sales, I hope alot of countries start blocking TPB and their proxies soon
The fuck did I just read?
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"Anti-Piracy" my ass. It's all money, money, and more money.
What if someone copyrighted the wheel so that only the Sumerians would have it?
hahaha interesting view.
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I don't really give a fuck about my privacy.. What I do give a fuck about is corporations shutting down websites that make them lose money and force us to buy their product, wich will not happen.
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Finally, they're doing something against these pirates. They're hurting sales, I hope alot of countries start blocking TPB and their proxies soon
"These pirates" (not all are good or have good intentions though) are people who dare to defy corporations that wouldn't feel any remorse if they sued you over the smallest shit that comes out of your ass.
Hurting sales? The Avengers broke box-office records even though the "pirate industry" had already pirated it in some regions. The fact that websites such as The Pirate Bay and other "warez" / file-sharing sites are still up is a testament to whatever freedom the Internet still has left. Once governments can take all of those down at will, then you will know the corporations have finally controlled everything.
As directly as possible; if you prefer to have the pirate industry shut down merely for the benefit of the corporations, then you can continue kissing corporate ass while they make money off of you, but I doubt the majority of Argonath would do likewise.
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Imagine a world if all games and movies where free, because everyone illegally downloaded them... what would this lead too? NO MORE FU*CKING MOVIES OR GAMES. Im mean, by all means yes I do support free sh*t cause well free Sh*t is cool, but moderate the amount. If you like a game you've alternatively downloaded, then buy it.
@Those saying "they're just laying people off"
... Obviously, they are not making as much money because half their sh*t is being pirated so they have to resort to budget cuts.
@Those saying "Why should I give my money to those who already have billions"
*facepalm* again, they get all that money from making games, they make more games using that money. I mean, hell yes the CEO's and other high executives can do F*ck all with your money, but they still use the money to make more games.
and the UK government is kinda lacking here, they should know for every 1 time you take down 1 site, 10 more rise to fill its place. Seriously think back to the WikiLeaks period. US government pwned that site offline in a matter of hours... shortly after which over 100 more mirrors became available, and grew each day.
Let them block whatever they want, if it's lowering their profit. They have employees to pay, you know.
but, I must say I can't wait for the day when you can illegally download a real house :)
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You're all talking like you use the Piratebay the ''good'' way. I'm pretty sure most of you download movies and games that cost money from it, and when the governement does something against it you all go around and scream that it's ''Destroying our privacy'', and ''our freedom!''
It's not like those 'prates' would buy these games and movies in the first place.
There is no money lost if you think about it.
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So, you'se saying it's fair if pirates get everything for free while we need to pay for it?
Who said everything? Stop generalizing. Besides, why spend money on a "crippled" version of a software, a low quality movie without a physical container, or a heavily compressed MP3 version of a song? I do buy things when the deserve to be bought. I specially do this for music related stuff. Also, watching a cam rip of a movie isn't as good as watching it at the actual movie theater. They shut down Megaupload and what did it do besides mostly lose a lot of personal and legitimate files? Even musicians have questioned whether it has done anything or not.
"Any other musicians out there notice that ever since they shut down MegaUpload, the money has just been POURING in?
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That quote was said in sarcasm.
Ryssdal: So obviously you're being sarcastic with that tweet. But are you as a musician able to make money with all the piracy out there?
Coulton: I am. I've been happily co-existing with piracy for the last six years. I make a better living as a musician than I did when I was writing software.
Ryssdal: Really?
Coulton: Yeah.
Ryssdal: But isn't it just wrong to do what Megaupload has been letting people do?
Coulton: Yeah, I don't have any question in my mind that what they were doing was illegal and probably immoral. But what I was getting at with that tweet is: Does the activity on that site really affect my bottom line very much? Or indeed the bottom line of any content creator? If groups like the MPAA spent more time creating a platform where people could buy their stuff legally and easily, instead of trying to block all this piracy, I think they'd get better results.
Ryssdal: Well you know, the Motion Picture Association -- as you said, the MPAA -- and a whole bunch of other people are, in theory, working on that. But what about you as an artist? Do you ever put yourself up there and see what happens with it?
Coulton: Yeah I do that all the time. In fact, when I first started, I wrote a song a week for a year and I put them all up for free, under the theory that piracy was in fact good for an artist, and really what you want is exposure more than anything else. It seems to have worked out pretty well for me.
That above quote wasn't. That's a music perspective. In a gaming perspective, some developers (http://www.indiegamemag.com/minecraft-too-expensive-notch-says-just-pirate-it/) have supported and others have blamed piracy on other stuff. (http://www.gamesradar.com/gabe-newell-piracy-issue-service-not-price/). I honestly don't know about the film industry.
TL;DR Piracy is exaggerated. It's due to a bad product or due to the difficulty of getting the product or making it function properly. I buy things that are worth buying and when I know that the profits will help make more great things. I also do it to support the people, like independent developers or musicians. I myself support Creative Commons and license all of my music under that. I also choose to make it free.
Also, blocking the internet is something which I, and one confirmed forefather of the internet (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120105/18151717292/al-gore-comes-out-against-sopapipa.shtml), do not support. Especially not for corporate fÃÂ…cks who want us to buy their mostly bad products.
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Piracy is illegal and it should stay that way. If something's halfassed, it suddenly gives you the right to pirate it? If it's so terrible why would you even bother downloading it illegally off the internet? It doesn't make sense. Piracy should be stopped.
Piracy should be stopped because pirating is to mainstream eh?
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Piracy is illegal and it should stay that way. If something's halfassed, it suddenly gives you the right to pirate it? If it's so terrible why would you even bother downloading it illegally off the internet? It doesn't make sense. Piracy should be stopped.
It's not like those 'prates' would buy these games and movies in the first place.
There is no money lost if you think about it.
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If it's so terrible why would you even bother downloading it illegally off the internet?
It's a system called "Trying before buying". I use it quite a bit since it's the only fail-proof way to know if the product I'm getting is good. If it's not, it gets uninstalled. I don't see what's so hard to grasp about this concept. And no, don't compare this to candy bars since it's unrelated. We're talking about digital files.
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Downloading music because it ''sucks'' is just like stealing a candy bar from the store because it tastes like shit. So if it sucks, you suddenly get the right to get it for free while others are paying for it?
Piracy should be stopped because it's unfair and illegal, but nice attempt.
stealing ≠sharing
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HOT DAMN, I love BE. :banana:
(http://i45.tinypic.com/1zdf06.png)
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BE.
BE? You mean BT? :trust:
If so, they are still required to block it.
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BE? You mean BT? :trust:
No, O2 owns BE.
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stealing ≠sharing
Nina Paley's "Copying is not theft" - arrangement by Willbe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw-MFeR8Frw#ws)
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Nina Paley's "Copying is not theft" - arrangement by Willbe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw-MFeR8Frw#ws)
People who think copying things =/= stealing are just too stupid to look at the bigger picture and would rather use the "hur dur look at me im taking everything literally" approach instead of actually understanding how the law and business works.
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People who think copying things =/= stealing are just too stupid to look at the bigger picture and would rather use the "hur dur look at me im taking everything literally" approach instead of actually understanding how the law and business works.
The whole concept of "Pirates are thieves and are literally hurting and bringing the music industry down through their free downloads" is bullshit propaganda invented by corporations to secure their profits. Obviously, you have been brought to believe this propaganda.
In fact it is doing the opposite; artists gain even more exposure when their songs are downloaded everywhere, along with the legitimate profits they continue to earn. Forcing payment on everything is what will hurt the music industry, not "piracy" or free downloading.
Imagine two stores distributing their own parfaits, parfaits of roughly the same quality, with one selling it for a price and the other giving them out for free. Expect the store with the free parfaits to get more customers, along with more of the community getting exposed to parfaits, and some even going to the other store which actually sells them. Likewise, the success of the "pirate industry" (with the attached exposure to the "legitimate goods") is built on the principle of 'if the customers like your supermarket, they will frequent it more than the other'.
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The whole concept of "Pirates are thieves and are literally hurting and bringing the music industry down through their free downloads" is bullshit propaganda invented by corporations to secure their profits. Obviously, you have been brought to believe this propaganda.
I'm against piracy because its a blatant disregard for the law, not so much because it "Hurt" the media industry. You break the law, you deserve to be punished for it. If you live in a democracy, you have the power for change and if you feel its an un-just law then you have all the power to fight for it to be changed. it will never be changed because it is morally wrong to steal.
Your example only fits major distributors and does not relate at all to independent artists, nor is it backed up by any proven statistics.
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No, O2 owns BE.
Oh I see, never heard of BE before. If they are owned by O2 they will probably block it to when O2 does, which is before the 13th.
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For the people who think that corportations don't do this purely for more profit... Why would they block Pirate Bay? Moral reasons? I don't think so. What artists make and it should not be copied and used because it's just "bad"? I don't think so. What pirating is is not STEALING.. STEALING is taking something and not giving it back! People download from torrent sites to COPY and USE the torrent. They don't take the MOVIE and don't give it back.. In fact they share it with other downloaders, they COPY and DIVIDE. It's ANARCHISTIC and HUMAN behavious! They take what they need to survive and give it to someone else, as a community. The internet is a COMMUNITY of anarchistic and anonimous members who interact with each other, direct and indirect, share INFORMATION. We download a movie, which was peered by another member of the internet and we don't even know who it is!!
Corporations are just trying to spread their influence on this community... It's being "civilized".
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If what torrent peers do is piracy, then you can say Jesus was engaging in piracy too when he broke a bunch of loaves into five thousand. :devroll:
What the corporations are labeling as piracy is not actual piracy, as the "pirates" are sharing their bounty with the rest of the world rather than keeping it to themselves, as actual pirates do.
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Last week the UK High Court ruled that several of the country's leading ISPs must block subscriber access to The Pirate Bay. The decision is designed to limit traffic to the world's leading BitTorrent site but in the short-term it had the opposite effect.
Yesterday, The Pirate Bay had 12 million more visitors than it has ever had, providing a golden opportunity to educate users on how to circumvent blocks. "We should write a thank you letter to the BPI," a site insider told TorrentFreak.
:rofl:
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I usually buy games that deserves the money even if I already have them. For example Arma 2 Combined Operations, I tried it, liked it and bought it. Battlefield 3, tried it, liked it bought it. But if they want me to buy every freaking game , well sirs go buy some lube and drop your soap in the prison
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Huge bump but WTF?
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Huge bump but WTF?
(http://i47.tinypic.com/s5bbqb.png)
Yay...?
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The Pirate Bay has set up a Swedish domain that the original redirects to in order to help prevent blocks and get around legal actions. The "Promo Bay" thing is something the website does from time to time to promote free media from the "little guys", such as home-based bands, local artists, amateur films, etc., often replacing their logo with a promotional image related to what they are currently promoting. They are trying to change their image in the public's [legal] view by showing that they are more than just a piracy website.
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Thank god to the swedish pirates! :alert" :alert"
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And you guys call us Swedes silly... :roll:
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Huge bump but WTF?
(http://i47.tinypic.com/s5bbqb.png)
You're on Plusnet. It's not blocked for me on Plusnet either.
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Thank god for my private php proxy running on my lovely vps <3
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You're on Plusnet. It's not blocked for me on Plusnet either.
Odd as BT own Plusnet. o.O
I changed over from o2/BE (where it was blocked) to Plusnet quite recently. I was under the impression that BT would block it for Plusnet users hence the suprise. :hurray:
Yay...?
???
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For those who not have seen it, check the movie about the guys behind TPB and the case where they got sued:
Those in the movie are the creators of TPB and it's the real thin'
TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay Away From Keyboard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTOKXCEwo_8#ws)
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Hail Sweden
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Hail Sweden
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It's hard for ISP's to actually block it as when one goes down another five proxy sites pop up, so it's difficult to keep on top of it. I doubt they'll ever 'banish' TPB.
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Quite a few proxies and such are around.
It's a challenge to completely pull a mask over the Internet.
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There is no way The Pirate Bay is going down as long as the Political Pirate Party in Sweden tunnels it, it's illegal for police to take it down as it will count as political censorship! That's why they never shut down Pirate Bay at the momen! :evil:
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There is no way The Pirate Bay is going down as long as the Political Pirate Party in Sweden tunnels it, it's illegal for police to take it down as it will count as political censorship! That's why they never shut down Pirate Bay at the momen! :evil:
Piratebay will never be down due this :)
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There is no way The Pirate Bay is going down as long as the Political Pirate Party in Sweden tunnels it, it's illegal for police to take it down as it will count as political censorship! That's why they never shut down Pirate Bay at the momen! :evil:
Here that is overwritten by copyright laws as TPB is distributing content with no money going to the makers. Apparently the companies want money so the courts have blocked it.
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TPB is on cloud now, they can't block or take any of it down as it takes more effort and time to block it than it does to setup another location to access it from.
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TPB is on cloud now, they can't block or take any of it down as it takes more effort and time to block it than it does to setup another location to access it from.
Most sites that are vulnerable to the law are choosing to go in the cloud now. TPB has done it and also MEGA.
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