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Title: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: SafetyMoose on July 08, 2012, 08:09:43 am: Neil deGrasse Tyson - We Stopped Dreaming (Episode 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbIZU8cQWXc#ws)

We Stopped Dreaming (Episode 2) - A New Perspective (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFO2usVjfQc#ws)

A movement was recently started to increase the US funding of NASA from .4% of the federal budget to a full 1%; that is, a penny on the tax dollar. The cause was more or less started by a Dr. Neil DeGrasse Tyson, an astrophysicist who pushes the idea that a resurgence of NASA programs could revive the US's interest in math, science, and, more importantly, the future.

http://blog.nss.org/?p=3392=1 (http://blog.nss.org/?p=3392=1)

Space travel and money spent on it is always a hot debate, there is the argument that we need to spend the money here on Earth but I personally think our advancements in space tech and exploration have always resulted in benefits to the average person base don developments of that same technology.

What do you think about this whole call for a higher NASA budget?
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: EliteTerm on July 08, 2012, 08:28:50 am: Reduce foreign aid, and put that into NASA development..

We're starting to fall behind on everything that we stand for back in the 20th century.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Squeak on July 08, 2012, 08:30:50 am: Quote from: EliteTerm on July 08, 2012, 08:28:50 am
We're starting to fall behind on everything that we stand for back in the 20th century.
Everything that was started in the 20th century is coming to fruition.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: SafetyMoose on July 08, 2012, 08:54:51 am: Quote from: EliteTerm on July 08, 2012, 08:28:50 am
Reduce foreign aid, and put that into NASA development..

We're starting to fall behind on everything that we stand for back in the 20th century.

Foreign Aid is not properly distributed and in the right format anyway. There is nothing that says this money HAS to come from the aid budget though. The Military Budget would be a better option to take it from.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Gandalf on July 08, 2012, 12:00:52 pm: Move NASA away from things like climate hoaxing and let them do their core business.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: SafetyMoose on July 08, 2012, 10:45:30 pm: Quote from: Gandalf on July 08, 2012, 12:00:52 pm
Move NASA away from things like climate hoaxing and let them do their core business.

Thats all about money, there current budget only allows them to pursue programs involving the climate. If they get a higher budget they can focus on SPACE instead of climate change and all that crap. Sure, its important, but other agencies do the same thing.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Jellyfish on July 08, 2012, 10:54:00 pm: There is a lot worth learning out there in space. Sadly, they ll need more then a penny for a significant breakthrough.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: SafetyMoose on July 08, 2012, 10:58:55 pm: Quote from: Tsubasa on July 08, 2012, 10:54:00 pm
There is a lot worth learning out there in space. Sadly, they ll need more then a penny for a significant breakthrough.

If you watch the video you will understand just how much 1 penny of the American Tax Dollar really is. It would boost the budget back to that of which was used to get to the moon, and it shows that just 1 percent can allow for man to get to the moon in such a short time.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Julio. on July 09, 2012, 12:09:06 am: It's because China are pulling ahead.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Kizzu on July 09, 2012, 02:50:33 pm: Stop funding Israel...
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Mikal on July 16, 2012, 02:26:57 am: Maybe NASA will actually do something space related now.. :lol:
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: SafetyMoose on July 16, 2012, 03:28:49 am: Quote from: Mikal on July 16, 2012, 02:26:57 am
Maybe NASA will actually do something space related now.. :lol:

if they get the funding they are asking for :neutral:
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Mikal on July 16, 2012, 03:32:00 pm: Quote from: SafetyMoose on July 16, 2012, 03:28:49 am
if they get the funding they are asking for :neutral:
Honestly Russias probibly owning America right now when it comes to space exploration.
I wish the UK could get it's own space programme, just wont happen with all these finance problems atm.. :roll:
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Pandalink on July 16, 2012, 09:21:08 pm: NASA is important because we're eventually going to fuck the earth to death, and if we're not in a position to abandon it and run to a different planet then we'll die as a race.

The (far less pessimistic) alternative is that we are able to set up some kind of orbital solar power generation systems (like in gundam 00 :roll:) and use other planets as sources for mining. Both of those things again require a space program. It's a necessary thing.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Mikal on July 16, 2012, 11:01:13 pm: Quote from: Pandalink on July 16, 2012, 09:21:08 pm
NASA is important because we're eventually going to f**k the earth to death, and if we're not in a position to abandon it and run to a different planet then we'll die as a race.

The (far less pessimistic) alternative is that we are able to set up some kind of orbital solar power generation systems (like in gundam 00 :roll:) and use other planets as sources for mining. Both of those things again require a space program. It's a necessary thing.
IMO NASA should be focussing on things like propultion systems, not telescoping the galaxy for planets like earth and such with their 456089084868638476034986946billion dollar orbital telescopes, the sooner we find a new propultion system such as nuclear, plasma or maybe even dark matter (although it'd take 1million years to get a gram of dark matter at the moment) the better, why not just get the stuff to get you to other planets instead of looking for planets before we can even go there..

They say they plan a Mars mission to get 3 people on Mars by 2020, doubt it will happen since they arnt focussed enough on travel.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Pandalink on July 16, 2012, 11:20:21 pm: Indeed, if they could get a really effective propulsion system working then it would be viable to mine other planets (in our solar system) for resources. We could use those resources to build things like the solar panel systems I mentioned before, and then we're good to go.

It may be rather optimistic, but then you could say going to the moon was optimistic. :)
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Mikal on July 17, 2012, 12:22:28 am: Did they really go to the moon? :lol:
They need to concentrate on propultion if they get their requested money anyway. :D
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Pandalink on July 17, 2012, 03:06:37 am: Quote from: Mikal on July 17, 2012, 12:22:28 am
Did they really go to the moon? :lol:
Yes they really went to the bloody moon. :roll:
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: JDC on July 17, 2012, 05:02:17 am: Quote from: Mikal on July 17, 2012, 12:22:28 am
Did they really go to the moon? :lol:
Surprising that people still fall for the "moon landing was a hoax" theory. :roll:

NASA should concentrate more on actual space exploration instead of simply looking through telescopes... endless opportunities await us out there, and the first place to start is in our own solar system.
Title: Re: Penny 4 NASA
Post by: Mikal on July 17, 2012, 08:22:16 pm: Quote from: JDC on July 17, 2012, 05:02:17 am
Surprising that people still fall for the "moon landing was a hoax" theory. :roll:

NASA should concentrate more on actual space exploration instead of simply looking through telescopes... endless opportunities await us out there, and the first place to start is in our own solar system.
I was being sarcastic about that, but yea f**k telescopes, get a good propultion system and explore!