Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:IV => IV:MP - Liberty City Multiplayer => IV:MP General => Topic started by: Witchking on July 12, 2012, 10:39:50 pm
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Well alot of People Have Asked About server, about how Managers and Leaders shine with Absence, and with Lack of Information.
Well this topic is Dedicated for you fellas, to Not Loose faith in Our Management and our Server or Community.
First Of all the History. (Just Read If You are interested)
Argonathrpg, had a very hard time theese past few months, in many different ways. The databases were replaced, and returned blank with no Proper Backup to the current one we were Using. wich means we had to back it up to even earlier state, wich brought on alot of bugs and server crashes We never had seen before.
We tried to search and find errors, that we never seen there before, and they did not display anywhere, some we found and some of them we haven't found yet in this time of me writing.
However Me together with dellstorm setted this as high priortiy to fix, wich we started to do, with some help from dedicated players in server with script knowledge, they togethere with dell started take the script down peace by peace, as from a start take owned vehicles offline, and rescript parts of vehicle system to solve it, and see if it had some difference, We were wrong.
it changed nothing, we disabled the houses to see if some changes were made together with other parts of scripts, nothing happened, Together with Gandalf we managed to get the server to a spot where less restarts occurred. but still we had the vehicles and houses taken away.
i thought well that was step one after some weeks of trying to solve it, and ye i can write whole day about the issues we have went thrue, but i wont. however i went to bed , next morning i woke up to a pm from dellstorm telling me sort of like ''Here is what you need to run the server'', and i noted his leaving topic in speakerbox.
i tried for the whole day to reach him together with dino and others he just left behind,not to disrespect his decision to leave, just to teach me basics since im not a scripter and never used a scripting prgram, i felt anger and betrayal.
However i went off for some hours, thinking thought like about now its over, but i decided to go the only way i could, ive decided to fix this together with all of you guys that were here, my mate icyaero i promoted to leader wich i know he will do great on and our new added manager dino, some week after i noted i took the correct decission when the lost manager void ruterned back on track, and together with all admins and players. this time we not just coming back, we are coming back as the ones that did not loose faith, we are coming back as the best.
and how to Do that, is to stick as the community we always bin.
and as for the info you all searched, read Below
Information about HQ
Current Head Quarter Members, you can find inside Administration topic, Or Below.
ForumNames: Witchking,Void,Icyaero,Jaaskaa,Dino3000
all of this Persons writed above you can Forum Pm everyday and everynight about questions about the project.
also you can use this Email wich your mails will get readed by Leaders and owners:[email protected]
Also do Not Bother if you dont see this persons ingame everyday, since alot of their tasks as manger or Developer will remain outside game, dosent mean they are incative,
However you can also can Contact Our Admin Team about questions you have, they are there for you.
Allright Next on the List (Changes)
*Server is Getting Reversed To a Modded Verision Of 2 Verisions Made By Reece and Hopefully More stable.
*Server will remain T3 For Now, Cause of the fact T4 aint ready
*Server will Be Stable for us to Play on
This is the First this to Accomplish.
Developement Servers (Process)
*The project will have 2 Developement Servers one for T4 and one for T3 in this case everything will be worked on here, away from Public.
*When a Server script or fix is Ready, and shown to improve stuff It will get added to Main Server, For our Pleasure
*Development servers Will most of the Time Be optained and locked for Hq To Work in.
*Developement servers Will Sometimes Invite Players as Testers when needed, information regarding that will be handed out when its time.
*Developement servers Is where scripters Spends most of its time, if you dont see them around.
RS2
We need your Ideas - http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?board=143.0 (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?board=143.0)
make sure to post your own ideas how to become the best!
Features of RS2
*Rewrited Script from Start (ongoing Process at this time)
*Less Bugged
*Unknown Release Date
*Possible Reset Of Everything Including Accounts, similar to Rs1 Release Back in 2010
*Possible Release on T4 Server Verision
Afterwords
What we ask from you players, is to have understanding, that his is not a Easy task, respect Our scripters by not Show disrespect towards them, or us.
Respect that we are doing this for not just us and argonath, its for the players, and for them to have a great time inside our server.
with theese words i hope i helped some of you people in a time of answers needed.
as i mentioned above, feel free to ask what you need!
and forgive me for my grammar if you have hard time to read, everyone aint perfect, over and out
Regards
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Nice to hear about this, If you need some help in testing, I'll always be there. Good luck! ;)
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Glad to see the players and even administration being informed of the current on-going progress and work within the IV:MP Project.
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There is nothing more to say then "dig in". Everyone has a task.
Not being available to the public eye does not necessarily mean the server is neglected.
Your only task as a player is to be there, online and playing. This is why we appreciate all of you and continue working to make this server better and more enjoyable. Not for us but for you.
Regards.
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I appreciate the topic, but next time, could you have it checked by someone that has a little more of a clue on how to write a proper topic? I'm not trying to insult you in any way, as I never would, but it kind of looks messy and those colours don't really add to the feeling of authenticy. Not to mention that it will be easier and "more fun" to read.
As a matter of fact, I'd like to volunteer! :)
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Let's roll again!
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Even if u guys didnt work on the server i still love it, anyway glad to hear some information and keep the work going!
Cheers,
Something is in my Noze
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Information well received and understood, thank you Witching, but please don't stop informing us.. And 1 think completely scared me off:
"Possible Reset Of Everything Including Accounts, similar to Rs1 Release Back in 2010"
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Can't wait for that reset :3
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Information well received and understood, thank you Witching, but please don't stop informing us.. And 1 think completely scared me off:
"Possible Reset Of Everything Including Accounts, similar to Rs1 Release Back in 2010"
don't worry, we will keep everyone Updated, thru this topic.
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Wait wait.. what's gonna happen with that reset thingy going around here? xD
I don't wanna lose mah trucks :cry:
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Wait wait.. what's gonna happen with that reset thingy going around here? xD
I don't wanna lose mah trucks :cry:
There is a possible user data reset so everyone gets a clean sheet to start again. This is still discussed.
Take information as-is. We will inform everyone in time, don't worry.
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Wait wait.. what's gonna happen with that reset thingy going around here? xD
I don't wanna lose mah trucks :cry:
I hope you lose your trucks muahahah :evil: Kidding. Let's hope for the best
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Let me add that when we look at the history of IV:MP it is clear that all developers have shown tremendous effort. And as for a reset, this should be decided by the developers team, nobody else.
Remember that the current scripts are a mix of at least five different people with all their own manner of working and creating things. For the new team this means they are having to cope with a lot of things that were made, fixed, re-fixed, discarded, re-worked and re-made at the same time.
Simply said: by having too many people work on the same thing it has become a spaghetti bowl where its pretty hard to find anything.
This is partially the cause of the crashing, the old database backup somehow lacks needed things, but what it needs is very hard to find. Taking a quick look I could fine some issues, which improved things, but without a real study it was impossible to find every move.
And as those of you with knowledge of scripting may know, a single bad line can crash the server every time it is used. This is in no way the fault of any single scripter, as everyone who worked on it had great qualities.
But we need to go forward, not remain stuck in the current problems. There for we will, as witchking mentioned, go forward step by step to create a better and stable server.
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I hope I wont lose 100kg of weed,Maverick,Jetmax,Marquis,Turismo,Supet GT,Infernus,Banshee,Coquette,Comet and Feltzer.
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lol? :trust:
I hope you lose your trucks muahahah :evil: Kidding. Let's hope for the best
I've changed my mind. Take it.. take it all
Indeed, if you need to reset accounts in order to make server a better place for us to play on, then do what you gotta do.. and may the GODSPEED BE WITH YOU ON YOUR WAY :lol:
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If we do a reset, everything will be wiped, you wont get to pick and choose what stays. It will ALL go.
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Eventhough a reset would be unfortunate, it will allow new possibilities, everyone starting on the same level and putting their time into earning some money again.
Bye bye to my $8000 that I have.. :roll:
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If we do a reset, everything will be wiped, you wont get to pick and choose what stays. It will ALL go.
Beatles- Let It Be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajCYQL8ouqw#)
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Eventhough a reset would be unfortunate, it will allow new possibilities, everyone starting on the same level and putting their time into earning some money again.
Bye bye to my $8000 that I have.. :roll:
Lucky you :P
Even if I have much more to lose, I wish everything will be reset..
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Even if I have much more to lose, I wish everything will be reset..
And I guess I have much more than you to lose, but we gotta sacrifice for a stable server. :razz:
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It's not about the money and assets after all, it's only the roleplay that matters.
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It's not about the money and assets after all, it's only the roleplay that matters.
Indeed :)
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Indeed :)
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As stated before, we don't wish to pump the server with commands and features to babysit our players, Main Focus will be to get a Stable and Working server, with much roleplay and Pleasure for now, and lets just hope That Developers of Ivmp will increase the playerslots to 48. as they said before..
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Indeed :)
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That means I worked hard for nothing right??? Please I would appreciate that if you can give us money for our property what we had earlier(before restart).
100kg of weed,Maverick,Jetmax,Marquis,Turismo,Supet GT,Infernus,Banshee,Coquette,Comet and Feltzer.
Thank you.
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That means I worked hard for nothing right??? Please I would appreciate that if you can give us money for our property what we had earlier(before restart). Thank you.
If we do a reset, everything will be wiped, you wont get to pick and choose what stays. It will ALL go.
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Assets in-game are not everything. If you're playing just because of that virtual money i suggest you not to play at all :)
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That means I worked hard for nothing right??? Please I would appreciate that if you can give us money for our property what we had earlier(before restart). Thank you.
*looks at himself* :roll:
You're not the only man in trouble, Kevin. :lol:
If a reset is to be made, most, if not even all account data will have to be wiped off.
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In short words, we are not doing resets because it's fun.
We will do anything to make the server more stable and operable, even if it means wiping out all account data.
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Wow Finnaly. I was Just Wating For Some One Will Announce About "Yeah We Still Alive" and Yeah you did it
Very good i was just going to Fell That You Are Just Forget About Iv And Just Keep Going On Samp Tell T4
Release But No Hell No You Proved For Me And Every One else That You Still Working And Working Too Hard
For Your Community ....
And About The Reset Fuck it Who Cares About Money When He is With His Friends And family
I Just Wanna Ask You Some Thing Its To keep Your Problems away And Do the Right Thing For This
Community i know Iam Not That Old Here To Ask Some thing like That But I Fell Like Iam Home
And Yeah Its Our Home Our Family We Spend Here In Argonath alot's Of Time So lets Start Fixing Our
Home.
Oh Btw Iam Sorry For My Bad English And Iam Ready For Any Thing You Want me To Do Just To Help
You Guys.
In the End Just .....................Good Luck Guys ...........................
mIDO
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Not everyone has the same predisposition to know/learn English. Acknowledge that.
And please don't be a statwhore (this part is in general): you're not the only one to lose stuff. At least you've still got your own RP skills; you won't be losing those!
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Not everyone has the same predisposition to know/learn English. Acknowledge that.
And please don't be a statwhore (this part is in general): you're not the only one to lose stuff. At least you've still got your own RP skills; you won't be losing those!
Wise words!
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I don't quite understand... Is it not possible to start fresh, and use existing database? while the scripts is wiped? I mean.. start all fresh, but add the current player database? For vehicles and money? Cause my owned vehicle list is longest of all players in the history of Argonaht's IVMP... and if that would disappear.. I would be very angry... As money didn't came easy..
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I don't quite understand... Is it not possible to start fresh, and use existing database? while the scripts is wiped? I mean.. start all fresh, but add the current player database? For vehicles and money? Cause my owned vehicle list is longest of all players in the history of Argonaht's IVMP... and if that would disappear.. I would be very angry... As money didn't came easy..
in short words, if the crashes dont dissapear with a fresh code, the databases has to be rebuilded cause we suspect the problem is somewhere inside them, since databases changed on the upgrade, code did not.
And if that includes account reset, we cannot avoid doing it :)
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in short words, if the crashes dont dissapear with a fresh code, the databases has to be rebuilded cause we suspect the problem is somewhere inside them, since databases changed on the upgrade, code did not.
And if that includes account reset, we cannot avoid doing it :)
How about a service in forums: To request Individual accounts restoration? If account wipe would occur, couldn't we make a post in a topic in forum for a request to restore manually 1 entry from old database to the fresh one? I can imagine that the number of requests would be manageable.
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How about a service in forums: To request Individual accounts restoration? If account wipe would occur, couldn't we make a post in a topic in forum for a request to restore manually 1 entry from old database to the fresh one? I can imagine that the number of requests would be manageable.
You are talking about visual money here .. Server isn't and will never be about visual money, but enjoying RPing.
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You are talking about visual money here .. Server isn't and will never be about visual money, but enjoying RPing.
dont go there...
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@Lazlow as i stated, we don't wish for the reset to be made, and we will try avoid doing that, but if we must, it will be done, and since we have a vision everyone is equal would mean to backup 20000 accounts, so if the reset will be made, all will be gone.
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It's not about the money and assets after all, it's only the roleplay that matters.
Just because I can quote it, I will quote what I said on the previous page.
ArgonathRPG is a Roleplay community, assets and money are there for you to use as roleplay tools, like to pay someone for help and so on, not necessarily needed for roleplay.
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@Lazlow as i stated, we don't wish for the reset to be made, and we will try avoid doing that, but if we must, it will be done, and since we have a vision everyone is equal would mean to backup 20000 accounts, so if the reset will be made, all will be gone.
I clearly understood that, but if wipe would exist, I'm suggesting to those who are active to keep their stats. do such "manual backup extraction" for a month, and then whats wiped thats wiped.. so i would imagine only MAX 200 stats would have to be manually restored.
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I clearly understood that, but if wipe would exist, I'm suggesting to those who are active to keep their stats. do such "manual backup extraction" for a month, and then whats wiped thats wiped.. so i would imagine only MAX 200 stats would have to be manually restored.
if the reset will be made, all will be gone.
If we do a reset, everything will be wiped, you wont get to pick and choose what stays. It will ALL go.
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I clearly understood that, but if wipe would exist, I'm suggesting to those who are active to keep their stats. do such "manual backup extraction" for a month, and then whats wiped thats wiped.. so i would imagine only MAX 200 stats would have to be manually restored.
This reset wont be the first or the last one to happen on Argonath.
It happened multiple times on VC:MP, IV:MP, and also soon on SA:MP, where people has millions and millions.
So .. I suggest you just accept the fact of the reset, and I don't think the management would do such exceptions.
Reset goes over everyone, not just a number of people.
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Cause my owned vehicle list is longest of all players in the history of Argonaht's IVMP...
As far as I know max. cars that one player can own is 10. :)
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dont go there...
We will go there, stats & money are eventually nothing. It's the same old song, which is still the right one. I think a reset would be a wise choice, in any case.
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I guess this topic hasn't been made to discuss the possibility of a reset. If the reset has to be done because it fixes server problems, there's nothing to discuss. It will be done, that's it.
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As far as I know max. cars that one player can own is 10. :)
As Dell told me, Cars will be reduced to 3cars pr player max, causes there is too many vehicles in the third city (Can't remeber the name lol) And makes some people crash,
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As Dell told me, Cars will be reduced to 3cars pr player max, causes there is too many vehicles in the third city (Can't remeber the name lol) And makes some people crash,
Cars will be Reduced to The Ammount that we think is the best, However it was not about the city or car ammounts that were spawned, what caused some crashes was some players, that had alot of money, and around 10 cars when thoose were spawned at same spot, for exeple in their yard of the house, it could make it crashy around that area sometimes.
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I never understood the purpose of allowing users to own more than 3-4 vehicles, it just becomes over-crowded and unnecessary.
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I never understood the purpose of allowing users to own more than 3-4 vehicles, it just becomes over-crowded and unnecessary.
Some people have more than 4 cars for few reasons:
Business vehicles, like Ice cream van, or car rental company of super cars or such..
Family vehicles - super cars for members of family to share, as new members might not be able to afford 100k car.
And for role-play of course.. such as Tug the airport vehicle. I use it as land mower.
Even to beautify your own home such as fully tuned Dukes...
Boats and Helicopters also take up vehicle slot, and those are desirable.
I hope this gives you an Idea, that even 10 vehicles for some big players are not enough, as they have family and businesses to manage.
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True, some may want more vehicles for lets say a business for example.
But all I have seen is, now I don't want to be disrespectful or anything but people "over-indulging" in the fact there is no car limit,
and what I mean by this is people going and buying basically 1 of every fast/fancy car just for the sake of owning one.
What we call "pigging out" it's like going to the store and buying one of every type of chocolate instead of just buying one which is inevitably the same, just a chocolate.
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True, some may want more vehicles for lets say a business for example.
But all I have seen is, now I don't want to be disrespectful or anything but people "over-indulging" in the fact there is no car limit,
and what I mean by this is people going and buying basically 1 of every fast/fancy car just for the sake of owning one.
What we call "pigging out" it's like going to the store and buying one of every type of chocolate instead of just buying one which is inevitably the same, just a chocolate.
I completely agree.. And I think there is nothing wrong with it, as you get bored of lets say Infernus, so you want to sometimes drift with banshee, and you do not want to sell and lose that kind of money. So alternative solution would be, to add a vehicle trading system that once was suggested in ideas section, but obviously forgotten, yet supported by many.
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Well, instead of vehicle trading(which is also seems like a good idea), the prices that we are buying the cars from Dealers can be raised also, harder challenges gives more fun and is much more like a permanent solution. :neutral:
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We suggested that too many times.. they don't like it :P
But if, for example, Infernus would cost around 300k after possible "reset of accounts" that would make me happy :P
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I srsly don't think that reset of accounts will solve these issues :D
Anyway, if reset of accounts doesnt seems successful to fix this lag and crashes, will it stay reseted or will our accounts be back?
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I srsly don't think that reset of accounts will solve these issues :D
Anyway, if reset of accounts doesnt seems successful to fix this lag and crashes, will it stay reseted or will our accounts be back?
Accounts are not going to be reseted on current scripts. There MIGHT be a reset on future script RS2.
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ok, I got it, thank you, sry for misunderstanding :drunk:
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I actually never asked questions, I had a thing called "blind faith".
Besides I regularily get tiny snippets of info from the high command so I knew everything included in this topic but I wasn't sure if that stuff is true/confidential so I decided to not spread it like an STD in a swinger party...
Anyway... keep up the good work guys, I believe in you...
Would you look at that, no silliness in this post, I guess I'm finally starting to grow up...
Ah screw it I'll tell a joke.
This one guy goes to work in construction, one day his supervisor notices him pulling a wheelbarrow upside down. He asks:
"Umm, you are supposed to push that the other way up..."
The guy responds:
"I already tried that but as soon as I started pushing some vandals kept pouring concrete in the wheelbarrow."
If you didn't get the joke it means that the joke is too sophisticated for you OR I am, indeed, growing up and becoming unfunny...
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Soooo... /changelog huh?
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Allright, as i said i would share what we are up to, as you may know reece worked on fixes to fix the current server status to the better, good news is that stuff have improved in the direction we want. And perhaps, in a few days we will open the dev server for testing to see if it can handle more players than 4.
Good news Owned cars are back and hopefully fixed!. Carlock is not there at this time since it need abit more work, more stuff made to the server is most bug fixes, however we will try this fixes out and see if it can remain stable. if this will show sucess we will add the fixes to main server and when that is done. we will move forward with the dev server.
with adding the latest T4 nightly release to try get the old script work along with that verision and see if works better than current t3 verision, and if that works also this will be added into main server later on.
and yes keep posting ideas for rs2 in the ideas section since that also is an ongoing project right at this time by stormeus....
Thanks for having patience and stand by our side!
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Wow.. great news ^^
eeermm.. is server offline cause of those fixes or? xD
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Wow.. great news ^^
eeermm.. is server offline cause of those fixes or? xD
No it's down for other reasons, such as samp and rest of the servers also :)
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Oh.. that.. ok :lol:
What about test server.. will you pick players for testing on it, or will we all be able to play there? Will there be any limits in player amount for that server? ^^
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Oh.. that.. ok :lol:
What about test server.. will you pick players for testing on it, or will we all be able to play there? Will there be any limits in player amount for that server? ^^
Will be open to all. 32 player slots. Different database which was last taken from the server about 2 weeks ago, but nothing will carry over from the test server.
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Great news! ;)
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Since people seams to loose faith again,there is now a scripting action log inside ideas and suggestion board
Regards
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Since people seams to loose faith again,there is now a scripting action log inside ideas and suggestion board
Regards
Could those be also pasted inside the script? To be viewed with /changelog command? I find it very convenient and useful.
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Awesome to hear such great news!
Do whatever you want, reset everything you want ;) Take your time, we will be patience.
Coming back to IV:MP as a new ghost :roll:
Good Luck!
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Glad to see this, if you need any help, just pm me! :)