Argonath RPG - A World of its own

GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Nathan_Alexandrov on September 03, 2012, 08:37:12 pm

Title: Few things
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on September 03, 2012, 08:37:12 pm
DISCLAIMER: This is not an attack on players, this is not bashing the server, it is advice for people. If you cannot reply with a structured and mature response I would ask you not reply to this topic. All examples in this topic are made up so don't take any offense to them.


This is in light of a certain type of topic responder and a certain type of topic, both of these seem to be arising quite a lot recently on the forums, hence I'd like to take the time to address these people with some advice on how to create a response which does not make you seem entirely bias, ignorant, stupid, narrow minded and to give others advice on how to create topics addressing an issue without bashing anyone or something that said topics have been labeled in the past.

First of the topics, these being simplistic topics usually created because someone feels they have been mistreated once or twice and it happens "all the time."
I would obviously advise you make a topic about something as a last resort mainly because saying these topics are useful would be bollocks, they cause conflict between players, admins and most likely other players. Admittedly there are some tools on the server but that is no reason to shitfit on the forums claiming it happens every five minutes, this is just a provocation to players and admins. If you want to address something take time to think of how to lay it out, remove any parts that would provoke morons to bash you, look at both sides of the argument/issue before addressing it and choose your words wisely a topic titled "Why admins do no work?!?" will get you nowhere and will fail to address the point. Lastly always include a disclaimer or a note at the beginning stating what you wish to get out of your topic, this should filter out any idiots before they respond.

Secondly the people with poorly structured responses. These people are usually the problem within said topics, they will just consider you someone who hates the community and is stupid as fuck. My advice to you, the responder would be a few things, firstly always read the topic fully, read all the replies before you think about your post, don't instantly reply with insults and a bias load of crap, consider both sides and never allow your emotions do the typing, it'll just make you look like a narrow minded tool.

Thirdly the people who try and suppress said topics. When I say suppress I mean these two classic lines

[email protected]

/report <ID> <reason>

Depending on the topic it just shows how you have obviously ignored the message of the topic/cannot be arsed to read it all. If you want/have to post this please for all that is good structure it into something!
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Nathan on September 03, 2012, 09:52:36 pm
A complaining/moaning thread about other people complaining/moaning.

You know, useless topics like this never help anyone and instead you know that change starts from you, instead of telling others to change. Be an example.
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: ANUNNAKI on September 03, 2012, 10:00:51 pm
A complaining/moaning thread about other people complaining/moaning.

You know, useless topics like this never help anyone and instead you know that change starts from you, instead of telling others to change. Be an example.

Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Kirgiz on September 03, 2012, 10:08:21 pm
A complaining/moaning thread about other people complaining/moaning.

You know, useless topics like this never help anyone and instead you know that change starts from you, instead of telling others to change. Be an example.

Sorry to help this poor bastard out and play the devil's advocate, but this is basically the same shit, just from the mouth of a developer.  (http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=86639.0)
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Caltson on September 04, 2012, 03:28:36 pm
If you want to make a change, be the start of your own revolution.
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Duel on September 04, 2012, 04:37:03 pm
Don't like it?

Then why are you still here?

Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Marcell on September 04, 2012, 04:46:29 pm
Don't like it?

Then why are you still here?
prolly since theres no other non-strict rp servers...
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Duel on September 04, 2012, 05:13:01 pm
prolly since theres no other non-strict rp servers...
If we're the only one, then people should stop complaining, since they do enjoy it here if they still here?
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Nathan_Alexandrov on September 04, 2012, 09:41:42 pm
It amazes me how most of you have misunderstood the point of this topic..

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A complaining/moaning thread about other people complaining/moaning.

You know, useless topics like this never help anyone and instead you know that change starts from you, instead of telling others to change. Be an example.
Nathan if you did some of the things said topic asks you to do you would understand its an attempt of teaching others.

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If you want to make a change, be the start of your own revolution.
Sure, I'll just round up all the Bolsheviks and Guerrillas.. This is an informative topic to hopefully prevent a few things, not a shite attempt at dictating change.

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Don't like it?

Then why are you still here?
I expected this one to show up.. Honestly do you not have anything better to say?

On a last note if you want to reply to this topic read ALL of it, don't judge and try to understand this was made for the best intentions. However as expected a negative mood has been brought upon an at first attempt of helping to stop a few pointless topics..
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Duel on September 04, 2012, 10:06:41 pm
I expected this one to show up.. Honestly do you not have anything better to say?
Refer this to your topic.. You have anything better to say about the server than just pointing out the negative facts, instead of the positive facts?
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Frank_Hawk on September 04, 2012, 10:09:22 pm
Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Devin on September 04, 2012, 10:23:10 pm
Jesus Christ.

This.   :conf:
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Nathan on September 05, 2012, 12:20:13 am
Nathan if you did some of the things said topic asks you to do you would understand its an attempt of teaching others.
Before you can teach others, teach yourself. Instead of directing others to change, be the change you want to see.
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Morais on September 05, 2012, 11:07:06 am
If you want to make a change, be the start of your own revolution.
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Ragdoll on September 05, 2012, 11:13:16 am
If you want to make a change, be the start of your own revolution.
I suggest taking over Argonath, and dethroning Gandalf, so you can moan as long as you want. meant for nathaniel, not caltson
Title: Re: Few things
Post by: Slavik on September 06, 2012, 05:05:23 pm


A complaining/moaning thread about other people complaining/moaning.

You know, useless topics like this never help anyone and instead you know that change starts from you, instead of telling others to change. Be an example.


I agree with that  :)
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