Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:VC => Vice City - City Hall => VC:MP - Vice City Multiplayer => VC:MP Courts => Topic started by: JAMEZZZ on October 28, 2012, 03:42:43 am
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Dear Court,
I have decided to go forward with an action against Mr. Marcell after the incidents that took place this afternoon.
I recently was strolling down little Haiti as i stumbled upon Marcell with a shotgun and killed me.
Do to the timing i took the picture, it did not show that he killed me.
So then all the sudden i crashed.
As i got back to the server i demanded to pay me back because he killed for no reason.
Exhibit A:
(http://i.imgur.com/O43nV.jpg)
he said that he killed me because for calling 911 (that time Marcell was wanted)
But i did /c 911 im prank calling
which he dont believe and refuses to pay me back.
I then accuse Mr. Marcell for the following:
-Killing Innocent person
-Blames Innocent person
-Refusing to pay me back
-Doesn't say sorry
-Looted my dead body
My demand is that the court of law applies it's justice to Marcell. I am also requesting jail expenses to marcell, apology from marcell, and all the money marcell has because he doesn't deserve it.
Signed
XJAMEZZZ
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lol
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ahahahahaha
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lol
ahahahahaha
Would you guys mind actually explaining the problem here instead of just laughing him off?
JAMEZZZ, you died. In a roleplay sense, a dead man can't sue someone in a courthouse. If he killed you for no reason as you say he did, it becomes a matter of investigating a deathmatch claim -- which is an administrative issue. This case is invalid.
If this case were valid, and you did sue him, you can't sue him for "all the money that he has because he doesn't deserve it." You can only sue for damages that are directly related to the case. If you lost $225, you can only sue for $225. You cannot demand the reward from him being detained and jailed, as that reward is paid out to the detaining officer as a reward for arresting him.
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Would you guys mind actually explaining the problem here instead of just laughing him off?
JAMEZZZ, you died. In a roleplay sense, a dead man can't sue someone in a courthouse. If he killed you for no reason as you say he did, it becomes a matter of investigating a deathmatch claim -- which is an administrative issue. This case is invalid.
If this case were valid, and you did sue him, you can't sue him for "all the money that he has because he doesn't deserve it." You can only sue for damages that are directly related to the case. If you lost $225, you can only sue for $225. You cannot demand the reward from him being detained and jailed, as that reward is paid out to the detaining officer as a reward for arresting him.
Can I at least get my money back because I need it and that's my hard earning money. Also can I get a reward because Marcelo was wanted and I called 911. ;)
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Also can I get a reward because Marcelo was wanted and I called 911. ;)
If it's found to be deathmatching, maybe you can get it back. $225 is still a pretty insignificant amount that can be earned back in many, many different ways.
Can I at least get my money back because I need it and that's my hard earning money.
No, because:
- You died.
- All you did was spam "I'm prank calling 911!" ten times. Not only did you not directly report him to the authorities, that's a rulebreak in itself.
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If you want money ask one of the crime lords for a job, I think I spent like 80k paying people for some random stuff. However if they don't want to hire you since you can't cross a road without killing yourself or they're not satisfied, that's not my problem. Especially when you're trying to join a weapon smuggle (not talking about scripted smuggle) scenario by screaming 'GUYZ LET ME JOIN' on main chat instead of roleplaying your way through (like for example Woka did yesterday)
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If you want money ask one of the crime lords for a job, I think I spent like 80k paying people for some random stuff. However if they don't want to hire you since you can't cross a road without killing yourself or they're not satisfied, that's not my problem. Especially when you're trying to join a weapon smuggle (not talking about scripted smuggle) scenario by screaming 'GUYZ LET ME JOIN' on main chat instead of roleplaying your way through (like for example Woka did yesterday)
Marcell can't be anything else than right in this situation.
New players are talking about the lack of possibilities to make money.
But when there's an opportunity they don't respond.
I know it is hard to actually work for your dollars, but at least try it.
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A little off topic post quoting Klaus: "RPing is all about imagination". You make money through roleplaying, therefore to make money, you need imagination.
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Just give me back my money OK?
Also Marcell you better watch out cause some of us are coming for you...
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Also Marcell you better watch out cause some of us are coming for you...
I wouldn't. In this context, that becomes revenge killing.
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Fellas, I may not be the authority on the functioning of the VCMP courts, but how in the world can he make a court case AFTER he died. Even if someone is taking the responsibility to address this situation, classify it as a server rulebreak, not a court case.
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Also Marcell you better watch out cause some of us are coming for you...
Good luck with that.. but yeah what Storm said.
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Lol,just go earn some money...
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^
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Going off-topic all the time anyway.
It's clear the requested court by JAMEZZZ is invalid.
Let's lock this topic.
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Also Marcell you better watch out cause some of us are coming for you...
(http://c24.img-up.net/vc-mp-179eac8.jpg)
want to join the list, be my guest
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Many people owe me money!!! And most of them doesn't come to the server often
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Am I one of these people?
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Am I one of these people?
No... The people who owe me money are Einghere (something like that) kikarz, Marcell, Joel Lopez, STALKER and a few more others (I can't remember the other names)
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No... The people who owe me money are Einghere (something like that) kikarz, Marcell, Joel Lopez, STALKER and a few more others (I can't remember the other names)
Wanna add me then for looting 13k from your body.
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No... The people who owe me money are Einghere (something like that) kikarz, Marcell, Joel Lopez, STALKER and a few more others (I can't remember the other names)
Dying and getting looted does not make them owe you money. You have a bank account. Use it.
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Einghere
Einherjar?
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Einherjar?
yes! i haven't seen him like for a few months
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just a basic question, how old are you jamezzz?
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Also Marcell you better watch out cause some of us are coming for you...
Oh dear lord...
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Just a tip jamez:
How to kill Marcell:
1. You can't kill him
2. I already said you can't kill him.
3. Do i have to repeat myself?
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I'm not the only one who is gonna kill marcell, other peeps are gonna kill you which you will never know who... also its not JUST marcell, its the whole gang.....
Post Merge: October 30, 2012, 04:30:02 pm
I know a way to kill Marcell:
1. Secret
2. Secret
3. Secret
4. Secret
I learned these skills from a guy I know.... :evil:
Which you will come crying on your knees begging to me. :evil:
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I'm not the only one who is gonna kill marcell, other peeps are gonna kill you which you will never know who... also its not JUST marcell, its the whole gang.....
Good luck.
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Just having a quick read of the last 2 pages... bookmarking.
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(http://c24.img-up.net/vc-mp-179eac8.jpg)
want to join the list, be my guest
Now seriously JAMEZZZ, be careful :lol:
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Post Merge: October 30, 2012, 04:30:02 pm
I know a way to kill Marcell:
1. Secret
2. Secret
3. Secret
4. Secret
I learned these skills from a guy I know.... :evil:
Which you will come crying on your knees begging to me. :evil:
lol, are you just trying to get attention or what
anyways
just a basic question, how old are you jamezzz?
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Lol,when is this shit excuse to earn money topic be locked?
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While the Court is generally doing its "thing", would be appreciated if unnecessary comments could be avoided, please. :)
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I wanna get my money back or else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sig:
Post Merge: October 31, 2012, 03:23:23 pm
Pls marcell, anyways I could loot your dead body after I kill you and get money
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Good luck, and also, i'd say we shall lock this topic ;)
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JAMEZZZ,
First of all, sorry that your topic somewhat deteriorated. I'm sorry that some people don't know how to post properly, don't encourage them. ;)
- The Court and the Case: The Court of Vice City is entirely a roleplay government institution. So generally, proceedings in here should fit somewhere in line with the roleplay or be accountable to roleplay in the server. In this case in that RP you did die - you were killed - so you cannot make a court case suing your killer, hence why people have said that this is an invalid case. Stormeus explained this quite well.
Also, as a criminal act hopefully the police would have taken the necessary actions and charged them. At most, if you had not died, you may have been given some kind of a state allowance/compensation... but that is of course entirely dependent on the roleplay at the time. This one's a bit difficult in Argonath, as unlike in real life we don't have insurance.
If you felt he killed you for no reason, deathmatched, that's something for the Admin Team.
/c report (if Admin is available) or [email protected] would be the best places to get help.
P.S. It's also best not to point out your own unlawful acts/misdeeds (like prank calling 911 or death threats) in court as it can often be used against you.
- Evidence: Again going on the validity point, to make sure that your case is a strong one and so that the judge can make a full decision it's very important to give as much info as possible. e.g. Screenshots, witnesses, reliable sources.
- Making Demands: Technically you can make any demand you want but it's down to the court how much or how little is given. Of course, you could make claims on all sorts of things, and the court tries to make it as fair as possible.
-"Jail expenses to marcell" - Processed by the police, they would be paid for their work and the government covers all the expenses to hold criminals in its jails. You are not rewarded for calling 911, it's not a call line... the emergency services are doing the service. (Technically speaking all 911 calls/emergency calls don't cost money for the caller anyway.)
-"Apology from marcell" - It's not something that is "essential" or something people would be charged against. If they were some government official, a police member w/e they could be asked to do that by whoever deals out their punishment.
- "All the money marcell has because he doesn't deserve it" - Don't know if you were serious or not, but to prove that he doesn't deserve it, first you'd likely have to make a larger court case (or series of cases) alleging fraud, illegalities...
At most you'd be given a suitable compensation in a valid court case, should the defendant be found guilty.
This should be appropriate to match your losses, and to cover associated expenses that the court accepts.
Hope that clears up everything.
Best regards.
-- Case Closed --
Legend
Judge, Court of Vice City
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Your attitude towards this guy disgust me... You better stop mocking new players, before i get someone involved..
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I just have a little thing to tell to JAMEZZZ
If you could train ( Pick up a DM server and train there daily ), after a lot of training, you might have a chance to beat veterans like Marcell ;)
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To those who didn't bother to read Legend's post, especially those still involved in the pointless deathmatch discussion. I'll summarize it for you.
- It is a roleplay court, first of all, you cannot make a court case AFTER you died, since ghosts do not rights, sadly. Second, if you feel like he killed you for no reason (That is, deathmatched), report him to any administrator with proof (screenshots and such or chatlogs or whatever)
- Make a strong case, and provide suitable evidence.
- The courts decide what you will be given, it is not your right.
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Ferrari stop with the offtopic. Sesus, want to do it again, I'll report you.
No ****ing need for it.
This is a role play court and if you think this is your personal lounge I will report those who want to think so.
To those who didn't bother to read Legend's post, especially those still involved in the pointless deathmatch discussion. I'll summarize it for you.
- It is a roleplay court, first of all, you cannot make a court case AFTER you died, since ghosts do not rights, sadly. Second, if you feel like he killed you for no reason (That is, deathmatched), report him to any administrator with proof (screenshots and such or chatlogs or whatever)
- Make a strong case, and provide suitable evidence.
- The courts decide what you will be given, it is not your right.
Tsubasa makes a good point, JAMEZZ in the future actually have a resaonable case. Have witnesses, evidence, etc.
Then you might get 100 or more..
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Quit the shit in the topic. Let Legend handle it with Jamezz and Marcell. If you do not know the case - do not post in the topic.
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:cry::neutral:when will i ever get my money back.... :neutral: :cry:
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:cry::neutral:when will i ever get my money back.... :neutral: :cry:
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The case was closed because this lawsuit is invalid. You died, you cannot sue.
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Locking since this is over.