Officially dislike Microsoft for this move.+1
Seems people are mixed here :P I myself am the same way.
I like MSN because its chat based, it is designed for text chat. Skype is designed for videos and voice messaging, while it does have a text chat based element it doesn't match that ability of MSNs. Also Skype groups aren't as secure as MSNs, as in MSN only group owners/co-owners can invite new people, in Skype is a free ballpark and for groups like the FBI who uitilze the secure features of MSNs groups and skydrive, what are we stuck with? Ability for some random agent to get bored and invite strangers in?
However, I do agree that as a business choice this was a great move for Microsoft. As Microsoft lack good developers anyways, they will be able to have them focus on a single product rather two products that compete with each other. Additionally having two products compete when one (Skype) that produces income and the other (MSN) which does not (other than ads) isn't a good business model. So in that sense, its a great idea and perfect plan.
They should have done this long ago, only americans use MSN.. Europeans widely use SkypeSo, use it... Doesn't mean one of them needs to be removed.
I was only waiting for this. Was pretty obvious that Microsoft was planning something like this when they bought Skype.
I'm actually happy about this since i'm using skype WAY more then i'm using MSN (both for chatting and for video / talking) and imo, Skype is so much better then MSN in everything. And who knows, maybe all contacts will be imported to Skype with your MSN account or something, only time will tell.
They should have done this long ago, only americans use MSN.. Europeans widely use Skype
bullshit
I got shitload of friends from Europe, none of them uses MSN.
I got shitload of friends from Europe, none of them uses MSN.Uzbekistan is in Central Asia, not Europe. :rules:
They should have done this long ago, only americans use MSN.. Europeans widely use Skype
bullshit
They should have done this long ago, only americans use MSN.. Europeans widely use Skype
Great move. Skype is so much better for chatting than MSN, especially for groups (e.g. if someone isn't online, they get all the old messages when they log on, unlike MSN groups).Fake ass British person talking crap! :mad: ;)
I rarely use MSN anyway, so doesn't affect me.
90% of the people I know here in Europe prefer MSN. I personally use both, but also prefer MSN because of its clarity. When I want a contact, I can see all of my contacts that are online in MSN, without scrolling through a huge list or having to use a search bar. Skype doesn't have that. Overall, Skype just seems way too complicated and unlogical, just like Windows 8, by the way.
Anyways, the best of both worlds is what we currently have, and I don't see why it had to change. This is a pain in the ass for a lot of people, including myself.
rip msn
In skype, all contacts that are online, are always at the top of the list
I remember how I told that MSN is shit compared to skype and everyone told me to shut the f**k up and laughed at me. Ah, the irony.
I remember how I told that MSN is shit compared to skype and everyone told me to shut the f**k up and laughed at me. Ah, the irony.
"i usd skype b4 it was cool"
"i usd skype b4 it was cool"le reddit xd 9gag
Officially dislike Microsoft for this move.
I like MSN because its chat based, it is designed for text chat. Skype is designed for videos and voice messaging, while it does have a text chat based element it doesn't match that ability of MSNs. Also Skype groups aren't as secure as MSNs, as in MSN only group owners/co-owners can invite new people, in Skype is a free ballpark and for groups like the FBI who uitilze the secure features of MSNs groups and skydrive, what are we stuck with? Ability for some random agent to get bored and invite strangers in?
However, I do agree that as a business choice this was a great move for Microsoft. As Microsoft lack good developers anyways, they will be able to have them focus on a single product rather two products that compete with each other. Additionally having two products compete when one (Skype) that produces income and the other (MSN) which does not (other than ads) isn't a good business model. So in that sense, its a great idea and perfect plan.
On another note, why do lots of you hate skype's chat? The fact that Skype perfectly syncs old conversations between devices makes it superior to MSN..
They should have done this long ago, only americans use MSN.. Europeans widely use Skype
next to every dick move microsoft (and Apple too) made, this one isn't half bad really, people are just afraid of changeI have to both agree and disagree. Skype is a great communication program, yes, but it is not meant for being mainly a text-based chat program. If Microsoft implemented many of the features missing in Skype that MSN had, I would be fine with the move...but they haven't and likely won't in many cases. The ability to share images was an enormous part of what made it popular in recent years, and the customizations, variety of communication forms, and Yahoo! IM linking made it even bigger. We also cannot forget the "permanent" chat groups, unlike the ones in Skype which are easy to leave, even on accident, and there's also a much-slower response time with Skype too.
but until then I'm sticking with my good, old MSN.Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! If only those words were in my mouth for you to take them! Screw Skype...
Is AOL Instant Messenger still around? :lol:Unfortunately. :lol:
Well Skype released a new update last night/today allowing you to merge MSN with Skype, I must say, first impressions aren't too bad.Have just merged my contacts. Now I don't have to use MSN again, which recently started trolling me by taking 5 minutes to open up every convo window... -.- never again! (I hope)
Although they must work on the login system, as each time you want to sign into both,
you have to click on MSN on the right of the skype login screen, sign in through that, then it connects to both.
It has its ups and downs, I am not too brought over by it, but it's something that people will get used to over time I guess.
Change isn't always bad, sometimes change is needed.
Don't get me wrong, I like that Microsoft has chosen to unify the users...but the sudden and unplanned way they have done it is pretty stupid in my opinion. Not only are both sides losing some features, but the loss of specific things, like communication with Yahoo! IM contacts, and the ability to share images through drag and drop...ya...that is just stupid to me. The fact that Skype also takes MUCH longer to receive messages from others makes me wonder if the move is even worth it. The term instant messaging is pretty obvious in it's meaning, but it's pointless if it's no longer actually instant...You also forgot the rather excessive CPU and network usage that Skype has.
Skype doesn't take long to send an receive messages...Compared to WLM... it does.
You also forgot the rather excessive CPU and network usage that Skype has.Yes, that too, thank you. :P
Skype doesn't take long to send an receive messages...MSN/WLM ones it does, yes. I've done several tests by having WLM 2012, Skype 6 For Windows Desktop, Skype 6 For Windows 8 (the app version), and the Windows 8 Messaging app all open and running at once, as well as other combinations of them open and closed, and every time WLM 2012 beats them all, easily. There are even times where messages will come in up to 20 minutes after WLM 2012 has already received them.
Who knows, it might improve when it all migrates ;)I seriously hope so, although hints from community members on the Skype Forums keep referencing that they have no plans to fix those issues.
Exactly, why say "It's slow" with let's say a 5ms delay? It's going to make absolutely no difference.I am not talking about a 5ms delay. My posts say up to 20 minutes, not 20ms. :P
Besides it's not like a life or death matter if they don't get the message within the second either.
The fact that Skype also takes MUCH longer to receive messages from others makes me wonder if the move is even worth it. The term instant messaging is pretty obvious in it's meaning, but it's pointless if it's no longer actually instant...Yeah, I hope they do fix that before they officially make the move. But then again, its Microsoft we are talking about... you can't really "expect" anything from them -.-
20 minute delay? I've never had an issue like that and I have used skype for many years.. :neutral:MSN/WLM messaging in Skype, not Skype-to-Skype.
World ends in 29 days so nothing to worry about
MSN/WLM messaging in Skype, not Skype-to-Skype.
World ends in 29 days so nothing to worry about
Then there's no problem. It'll be gone soon enough :)I mean the protocol, not the program. If someone messages you on Skype to your Skype address using the MSN/WLM protocol, it's just as slow.