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Argonath RPG Community => Speakerbox => World and local news => Topic started by: Kirgiz on December 22, 2012, 11:20:14 am
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Three people including a woman decorating a church have been killed after a gunman opened fire early Friday in Frankstown Township in Central Pennsylvania. After wounding three officers, the attacker was killed in a shootout with police.
The shootings started at around 9am local time. Police confirmed that the incident extended over several miles, adding that they were investigating at least five separate crime scenes.
Authorities did not release the names of the victims or the assailant, but said they were not related. State police are still trying to determine a timeline and motive of the attacker.
A woman decorating a church for the funeral of the pastor is believed to be the first victim shot. The shooter then allegedly opened fire at two men on the driveway of their home, killing one. The third victim was shot at a crash site after a car chase with police.
When the gunman encountered law enforcement, a shootout began that ended his death. Two Pennsylvania State Troopers were injured during the confrontation, with one being shot twice and a second injured by glass fragments in his eye and bullet fragments in the forehead. A third officer was injured in a car crash during the ordeal.
http://rt.com/usa/news/four-dead-pennsylvania-injured-598/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/four-dead-pennsylvania-injured-598/)
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Some crazy nutters about these days but on a more positive note, dem lights on the charger are niccccce!
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America's solution to the school shootings: Stick armed guards at EVERY school in the US.
America's only option to stop public mass shootings: Get rid of guns.
Sticking armed guards at schools would be pathetic, honestly guns must be the only bit of heritage the USA has if they wan't to keep it this badly, I honestly don't know why they want to keep guns so bad, BBC News said it's because of their constitutional bill of rights or something like that, but is keeping your petty little guns worth innocent people dying in mass shooting nearly EVERY week?
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America's solution to the school shootings: Stick armed guards at EVERY school in the US.
America's only option to stop public mass shootings: Get rid of guns.
Sticking armed guards at schools would be pathetic, honestly guns must be the only bit of heritage the USA has if they wan't to keep it this badly, I honestly don't know why they want to keep guns so bad, BBC News said it's because of their constitutional bill of rights or something like that, but is keeping your petty little guns worth innocent people dying in mass shooting nearly EVERY week?
It's called fanatical liberalism. That thing is so well-hugged in there that I doubt any gun control regulations will get strong enough to stop this phenomenom. There's a lot of people in there who would take such an intervention by the State in their lives as a very fatal disrespect.
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It's called fanatical liberalism. That thing is so well-hugged in there that I doubt any gun control regulations will get strong enough to stop this phenomenom. There's a lot of people in there who would take such an intervention by the State in their lives as a very fatal disrespect.
Yeh, they won't learn until theres a mass shooting every day, and even then they will probibly argue that guns arnt the problem.
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America's solution to the school shootings: Stick armed guards at EVERY school in the US.
America's only option to stop public mass shootings: Get rid of guns.
Sticking armed guards at schools would be pathetic, honestly guns must be the only bit of heritage the USA has if they wan't to keep it this badly, I honestly don't know why they want to keep guns so bad, BBC News said it's because of their constitutional bill of rights or something like that, but is keeping your petty little guns worth innocent people dying in mass shooting nearly EVERY week?
There already is, at least in my state. Every school in my state has a police officer assigned to it. Middle schools are 1 officer, High schools are 2 officers. They are assigned by the Sherrif's officer depending on what county they are in.
Not sure about other states though. Although I do believe most have at least one officer there.
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There already is, at least in my state. Every school in my state has a police officer assigned to it. Middle schools are 1 officer, High schools are 2 officers. They are assigned by the Sherrif's officer depending on what county they are in.
Not sure about other states though. Although I do believe most have at least one officer there.
Ok, and what about the general public that can be shotdown by a mad gunman at any time? You can't stick a rozzer with every civilian can you?
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Days since American mass shooting: 0
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Ok, and what about the general public that can be shotdown by a mad gunman at any time? You can't stick a rozzer with every civilian can you?
Well obviously not.
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Well obviously not.
And that leaves the only option: Remove guns.
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Removing guns wouldn't solve the problem. Crazy people would find another weapon to use instead.
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Removing guns wouldn't solve the problem. Crazy people would find another weapon to use instead.
Yes, such as throwing shoes.
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Removing guns wouldn't solve the problem. Crazy people would find another weapon to use instead.
Oh yes, because knifes can be shot at about 100mph from a human hand over and over and over.
Yes, such as throwing shoes.
:lol:
I've actually seen that happen IRL.
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Knives are much easier to conceal than guns, and they do more than just kill in one, single way. Against unarmed people, you're still going to have a lot of injuries, if not deaths.
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And that leaves the only option: Remove guns.
That would be impossible.
Firearms are in excess in the US, there is no possible way to get rid of them. Gun Control can be stiffened, but all that would do would disallow people from carrying concealed weapons and instate a harsher punishment if you were to be caught with one. So what are they going to do, seize all firearms registered in the US? That would never happen, not to mention the number of unregistered firearms that are out there as well.
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Ban Guns!
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And that leaves the only option: Remove guns.
Norwegian strict gunlaws didn't stop Breivik. You're again missing the point.
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Norwegians actually have really strict gun laws. Even Police Officers dont carry guns with themselves ,they're allowed to take them from the station or the car only when the situation requires to do so.
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Norwegians actually have really strict gun laws. Even Police Officers dont carry guns with themselves ,they're allowed to take them from the station or the car only when the situation requires to do so.
Interesting that they keep them in the car, all but one regular territorial force are unarmed here. They are not even given training on how to use weapons. Each force has an armed unit, and are not allowed to patrol (apart from in MPS).
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Norwegian strict gunlaws didn't stop Breivik. You're again missing the point.
And that was the first time it happened on Norwegian soil. We're talking about 20+ mass shootings in US p/year.
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Norwegian strict gunlaws didn't stop Breivik. You're again missing the point.
Yes, there was a mass shooting in Scotland quite a few years ago, I don't know exactly how many people were shot dead, but the fact is there would be more every year if it werent for strict gun laws, as Dolfa said, America has 20+ each year, countries with strict gun laws have much less or none at all.
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Yes, there was a mass shooting in Scotland quite a few years ago, I don't know exactly how many people were shot dead, but the fact is there would be more every year if it werent for strict gun laws, as Dolfa said, America has 20+ each year, countries with strict gun laws have much less or none at all.
That doesn't take out the fact that it won't stop them at all. It's the same as fighting piracy - it's just too much and people will find their ways.
Also, remind me when was a last time mass shooting in Russia? They have pretty liberal gun laws.
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That doesn't take out the fact that it won't stop them at all. It's the same as fighting piracy - it's just too much and people will find their ways.
Also, remind me when was a last time mass shooting in Russia? They have pretty liberal gun laws.
I don't know anything about Russia and their gunlaws so I couldn't say..
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With all the people posting for the removal of guns, think of exactly how it is to be applied, if undertaken.
Keep in mind that a vast portion of the arms stockpile also flows through illegal owners, basically limiting the government's capability to track them. Should a move be undertaken, there is also the safety concern of threats from those who still have illegal guns (and there will be a lot), as the legal ones are being purged.
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Every cop except the underage crime office members have guns here :/. We dont have a problem with them anyways.
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Every cop except the underage crime office members have guns here :/. We dont have a problem with them anyways.
Re-read the problem given:
Keep in mind that a vast portion of the arms stockpile also flows through illegal owners, basically limiting the government's capability to track them. Should a move be undertaken, there is also the safety concern of threats from those who still have illegal guns (and there will be a lot), as the legal ones are being purged.
Your case is best implemented in a scenario where the removal process has already been completed. However, if you are going to remove guns from the system (not including law enforcement), then there are two concerns:
1. How to remove guns with little or no paperwork, such as illegal guns
2. How to protect from the threat of mass shootings while the removal process is still in progress
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Also, remind me when was a last time mass shooting in Russia? They have pretty liberal gun laws.
Russia doesn't have a bellicist culture. And since you can't suddenly change the way of thinking of a mass of USA people, I guess gun laws are the only choice here.
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Also, remind me when was a last time mass shooting in Russia?
They die enough in car accidents..
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They die enough in car accidents..
Citation needed
And besides, would you be banning cars?
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would you be banning cars?
You just need to regulate things well. I would never ban cars :3
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Your case is best implemented in a scenario where the removal process has already been completed. However, if you are going to remove guns from the system (not including law enforcement), then there are two concerns:
1. How to remove guns with little or no paperwork, such as illegal guns
2. How to protect from the threat of mass shootings while the removal process is still in progress
That's what I said. Still though, just as I was saying, it's right. Removing guns would be near impossible.
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To be honest, something really needs to change. If you look at stats, India is the second country in the world with most guns, only second to USA. Yet, we have never experienced devastated shooting incidents.
Banning guns totally might be a useful idea, as we had loads of people dying from regular buses here so the government switched to low floor buses, deaths before that - 2000+, deaths after low floor buses - 0.
Maybe about time, killer guns get replaced with something more handy and less lethal. Rubber bullets anyone?
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To be honest, something really needs to change. If you look at stats, India is the second country in the world with most guns, only second to USA. Yet, we have never experienced devastated shooting incidents.
Banning guns totally might be a useful idea, as we had loads of people dying from regular buses here so the government switched to low floor buses, deaths before that - 2000+, deaths after low floor buses - 0.
Maybe about time, killer guns get replaced with something more handy and less lethal. Rubber bullets anyone?
The only weapons legal in the UK but not allowed to be carried in public = Swords, Knives, Air rifles or similar non-lethal guns. :poke:
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The only weapons legal in the UK but not allowed to be carried in public = Swords, Knives, Air rifles or similar non-lethal guns. :poke:
What? No.
http://www.sportingshooter.co.uk/features/ask_the_experts_2_8808/firearms_law_1_1529690 (http://www.sportingshooter.co.uk/features/ask_the_experts_2_8808/firearms_law_1_1529690)
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What? No.
http://www.sportingshooter.co.uk/features/ask_the_experts_2_8808/firearms_law_1_1529690 (http://www.sportingshooter.co.uk/features/ask_the_experts_2_8808/firearms_law_1_1529690)
1 of my neighbors have an air rifle, the other has a proper rifle, police go to his house every so often to make sure it's all locked up.
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Someone big wants guns outlawed.
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1 of my neighbors have an air rifle, the other has a proper rifle, police go to his house every so often to make sure it's all locked up.
The only incidents of shooting we've had in past couple of months were in marriages, when people fired in the skiez and it accidentally killed people. :p
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Yeah, in my country there's now a strict policy on guns in large events since many people have been injured.