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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Zlatan on January 08, 2013, 11:31:35 pm

Title: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Zlatan on January 08, 2013, 11:31:35 pm
Today. Yesterday. The day before... What is happening?

The server seems to be under attack every day.
The hackers (ban evaders as well) disguise themselves as new players and try to mess up roleplay going on between players.

Today, as I was roleplaying a CIA agent with my friend, I got stopped by a cop (I had two people in back seats ready for interrogation). He parked his car ramming mine just behind. I got out, trying to convince him that everything is alright and that I am a CIA agent (roleplay). I haven't finished a sentence and he already suspected me for evade, and in that time even killed me while I was standing there and typing. Then, my other agent (friend) got suspected and shot at. After about 10 minutes, I asked admins for, not the 1k payback or anything, but just a simple unsuspection for my friend. He had to go through the investigation process which took just about 10 to 15 minutes. The guy got away with no punishment, then afterwards spamming the chat with /ad and some swearing, and then yet again going away with no any punishment.

All I'm saying that, admins in their free time should spectate new players. You never know, it can be a hacker, a banevader. I, myself know a ban evader when I see one. Name - trolling etc...

Just before I made this topic, a guy threatened with a DDoS attack, and got banned. Next thing you know: "Server is reconnecting..."... I'm suggesting don't ban to fast, tell him to chill out, talk to him. Find out his information (in this case IP would be good)... Try doing something about it. In many countries DDoS and such attacks are illegal. I heard a Spanish 16 year old got arrested for DDoSing SA:MP servers and websites..

PS. Please do not write useless comments that may cause argue or fighting...
Title: Re: Under attack...
Post by: Cyril on January 08, 2013, 11:34:52 pm
We have IPs of every players when they join the server.. no point to discuss with him :lol:
And Admininistration is already doing a good job with new players.. So yeah, you got abused sometime, but you have severals tools to report them such as /report or ARPD Forum for the police officers.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Ted on January 08, 2013, 11:36:33 pm
The floor will be wiped with this person shortly.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Gandalf on January 08, 2013, 11:39:37 pm
Someone think that he can destroy us by this. He will be finding out that we do not take such actions light soon enough.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: PSVITA on January 08, 2013, 11:42:54 pm
Someone think that he can destroy us by this. He will be finding out that we do not take such actions light soon enough.

I am loving the sound of that :alert"
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Shejken on January 08, 2013, 11:43:41 pm
Trying to talk sense to scriptkiddies doesn't work, they are too immature. Secondly Argonath never gives up regarding cyber crimes, we will ban the attackers on sight.

Every DDOS attempt/attack is investigated and being dealt with.

If you get abused by new players try to teach them and show good example.
If you see hacker, troll, banevader, simply report and it will be dealt with.


We are living tough times these days but soon it will be better.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Pingster on January 08, 2013, 11:44:00 pm
All I'm saying that, admins in their free time should spectate new players.
Crazy. I wish admins had more free time, but not to do more admin work. They don't get paid, they are still players, and suggesting that they should log on just to work is crazy.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Marcel on January 08, 2013, 11:44:59 pm
The floor will be wiped with this person shortly.

Oh yes, he will not just bite the dust, we will force feed him the dust! :evil:
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Sale_Zovas on January 08, 2013, 11:45:32 pm
I think it's more fun to play (on) server, not crash the server...shame on you random hacker or whoever. I just can't understand why they need to crash.

p.s Sorry if this is irl for the topic..Cheers :cool:
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Zlatan on January 08, 2013, 11:58:19 pm
Crazy. I wish admins had more free time, but not to do more admin work. They don't get paid, they are still players, and suggesting that they should log on just to work is crazy.
Maybe. Thats what I would do.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Nev1k on January 09, 2013, 03:37:27 am
I've done the investigation to your friend.
I am sure that the officer that suspected you was cobanned before, later banned for costant rulebreaking.

You can look in mine SAPD Application (Dario.Cipone) about yesterday.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: eymas on January 09, 2013, 08:40:55 am
Some people...

Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: SugarD on January 09, 2013, 08:52:33 am
Someone think that he can destroy us by this. He will be finding out that we do not take such actions light soon enough.
Someone will be experiencing more than just roleplayed Law Enforcement cuffs soon too...
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Matt Murdock on January 09, 2013, 08:58:25 am
If you were roleplaying CIA officer, and you're not a part of it, you should had been suspected, not for evade tho.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: SugarD on January 09, 2013, 09:02:33 am
If you were roleplaying CIA officer, and you're not a part of it, you should had been suspected, not for evade tho.
Not necessarily. The officer had no way to verify him as a CIA Agent or not.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Nev1k on January 09, 2013, 09:58:40 am
Not necessarily. The officer had no way to verify him as a CIA Agent or not.

In fact, when I investigated his friend, I said clearly that if he was a CIA Agent, it couldn't be a proof for releasing him as the CIA is not an official group.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Radagast on January 09, 2013, 10:03:35 am
All I'm saying that, admins in their free time should spectate new players. You never know, it can be a hacker, a banevader. I, myself know a ban evader when I see one. Name - trolling etc...

We all do already. How else do you explain a ban in less than 5 seconds after a player logs in? :D
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: SugarD on January 09, 2013, 10:06:41 am
In fact, when I investigated his friend, I said clearly that if he was a CIA Agent, it couldn't be a proof for releasing him as the CIA is not an official group.
It doesn't need to be an official group to roleplay it.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Pingster on January 09, 2013, 10:10:23 am
In fact, when I investigated his friend, I said clearly that if he was a CIA Agent, it couldn't be a proof for releasing him as the CIA is not an official group.
I hope Jcs gets investigated by you, maybe he'll go to jail for once.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Nev1k on January 09, 2013, 10:11:59 am
It doesn't need to be an official group to roleplay it.

Nono, to roleplay it, it's okay. I'm only saying that I couldn't unsuspect him immediately only because he was a CIA member.
Anyway the length of the investigation was like of 2 minutes because I saw what happened.

Post Merge: January 09, 2013, 10:16:45 am
Maybe, something that you don't know its that his friend got the unsuspection asked by me.
He never touched the jail.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Aca on January 09, 2013, 11:38:01 am
Argonath RPG - coming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuktCsz4jHM#)
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Sauron on January 09, 2013, 01:44:03 pm
Interesting fact.
It costs us about $8 a day to run Argonath. (without income from advertisers and donations)
The attacker pays about $15 a day to try to destroy us.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: AK47 on January 09, 2013, 01:46:07 pm
Interesting fact.
It costs us about $8 a day to run Argonath. (without income from advertisers and donations)
The attacker pays about $15 a day to try to destroy us.

Sounds a bit stupid in my ears. :rofl:
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Teddy on January 09, 2013, 02:00:19 pm
The attacker pays about $15 a day to try to destroy us.

The attackers mother*  :D
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Devin on January 09, 2013, 02:00:59 pm
It's sad what some people do for attention online.  :lol:
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: eymas on January 09, 2013, 02:10:17 pm
It's sad what some people do for attention online.  :lol:
Its amazing to see they pay DOUBLE for attacking.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Devin on January 09, 2013, 02:55:43 pm
Priorities bud, priorities.. 
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Mikal on January 09, 2013, 03:02:33 pm
Nothing wrong with a good troll. :poke:
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Kirgiz on January 11, 2013, 08:15:45 pm
Where the fuck does it cost to pay 15 greens a day for Internet.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Mikal on January 12, 2013, 02:40:38 am
Where the f**k does it cost to pay 15 greens a day for Internet.
Remote desktops, proxys, high end ddosing programmes.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Pingster on January 12, 2013, 03:16:01 am
Remote desktops, proxys, high end ddosing programmes.
And if you don't have your own zombie armie to DDoS with, that ain't free either.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: FrankBlaze on January 12, 2013, 05:56:43 am
Same happened to me today, a player (that was not actually new) was threatening me over PM to "f**k up my network" a few seconds after, he/she got banned and 1 min after that "Server are reconnecting..", i told an admin about this.

I don't think this is just a coincidence, if i get a threat like that, he/she got banned and then server goes down.

This person got banned for "attempting Ddos attack on server" And i have talked with this person alot, and he/she is from Norway, and in Norway DDos attack is not allowed.. If any admin want the user name for this person, please PM me.

All the Ddos attacks are destroying everybody that's in middle of an RP or anything else. People gets tired of it and starts to argue and stuff..

People are "afraid" to start any good RP because of the server are restarting all the time due to attackers, its not the way Argonath/SAMP is used to be, i really hope these attackers get caught soon.   
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: JackWhite on January 12, 2013, 11:40:28 am
Interesting fact.
It costs us about $8 a day to run Argonath. (without income from advertisers and donations)
The attacker pays about $15 a day to try to destroy us.
In fact, theres a lot of places you can buy lifetime DDoSing programmes, with VPN and proxies included, not to mention the spoofed attacks. This costs under 100$ a lot of places, up to 500$ for the better ones. So based on a year someone might pay 400$ to DDOS you daily for one hour. A year for you based on 8$ a day it costs 2920$ and 400$ for him DDoSing you. So its kinda cheaper for him.

Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Gandalf on January 12, 2013, 12:30:28 pm
DDOS is a crime in most countries, the problem is making a factual connection between the player and the attack.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Yenkee on January 12, 2013, 12:32:32 pm
DDOS is a crime in most countries, the problem is making a factual connection between the player and the attack.
but yeah , i got banned because reason : Woka friend , but how can i be woka friend , i got ban , because i was at CH when hacker was there !
Can someone take a look , its not banevading ~! its cant be real ! ;(
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: SugarD on January 12, 2013, 09:24:02 pm
but yeah , i got banned because reason : Woka friend , but how can i be woka friend , i got ban , because i was at CH when hacker was there !
Can someone take a look , its not banevading ~! its cant be real ! ;(
Please post an unban request in the appropriate board, and do not ask for people to check it. That will only delay it further.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: Matt Murdock on January 12, 2013, 10:08:03 pm
Not necessarily. The officer had no way to verify him as a CIA Agent or not.
Next time I'm roleplaying Tinkerbell, and you better take me as a fuckin tinkerbell, since you have no way to verify I'm not.
Title: Re: Ban evaders, hackers, trolls...
Post by: SugarD on January 12, 2013, 10:17:05 pm
Next time I'm roleplaying Tinkerbell, and you better take me as a f**kin tinkerbell, since you have no way to verify I'm not.
Will do.
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