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The 150 infantrymen of B Company 2 Mercian will spend two months on the tour, after coming home last March from the Nahr-e Saraj in Afghanistan's Helmand province, it was reported.
They are expected to join more than 1,000 other service personnel together with four Typhoon jets and Royal Navy vessels sent to protect the Falklands.
Lt Col Paul "Shove" Gilby, commanding officer of 2 Mercian, told The Sun most would fly out in the next fortnight.
He said: "Their role will be to undertake regular patrols protecting key locations. They are ready to protect the islands and reassure people who live there."
It comes after David Cameron made clear this week that Britain had "strong defences in place on the Falkland Islands".
Argentina has condemned what it described as Mr Cameron's "military threats" and its president Cristina Kirchner last April accused Britain of "militarising" the South Atlantic when the state-of-the-art HMS Dauntless was deployed to the islands.
Last week Mrs Kirchner took out advertisements in UK newspapers last week demanding the islands come under Argentine sovereignty.
Britain keeps a garrison on the Falklands, based at Mount Pleasant, of around 1,200 troops. Mrs Kirchner reignited debate over what Argentina calls the Malvinas in 2010 when British companies began exploring for oil off the islands.
Her aggressive discourse intensified last year with the commemoration of the 30th anniversary of the Falklands conflict.
Britain says Argentina should respect the islanders' right to self-determination, but the stance is rejected by Buenos Aires, which insists the UK illegally occupied the islands in 1833.
A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "Our overall military posture on the Islands is unchanged and they remain well protected."
Also: http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/01/falklands-redux-is-president-kirchner-south-americas-biggest-troll/267067/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/01/falklands-redux-is-president-kirchner-south-americas-biggest-troll/267067/)
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Who discovered the islands? The UK, who stepped foot on the islands first? British people, who colonised the islands first? French people, who kicked the French back off the islands? British people, who still lives on and defends the islands today? British people.
The islands were never Argentinian, the first person to step foot on them was British, Argentina uses the islands to distract their citizens from the more important problems that they have, just as they did when they invaded all them years ago, good job Britain for keeping them and ignoring both Argentina and the USA who insists the UK should hand the islands over, and to state a fact, the only reason the US doesn't want the islands to be British is because they 1. Don't want the UK to have territory so close to them, 2. Want the oil thats down there, 3. Don't want the UK to have all that antarctic territiry (Queen Elizabeth Land).
Argentina won't dare to attack the islands today, for starters the UK has the worlds most powerful submarines and battle ships, not to mention them special forces..
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battleships... last British one was HMS Vanguard.. and that got scrapped decades ago.
However... we do have some rather good warships, and I am sure if the Falklands got invaded, other nations would be less likely to stand on the side lines like before..
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battleships... last British one was HMS Vanguard.. and that got scrapped decades ago.
However... we do have some rather good warships, and I am sure if the Falklands got invaded, other nations would be less likely to stand on the side lines like before..
Other nations wouldn't get involved is what I've read, the US would especially not help the UK as they wan't the UK to lose the islands anyway.
And battleships/warships, I didn't realise there was a difference until now.. :lol:
All sounded the same to me.
Oh and not to mention the sanctions the UN would put on Argentina if they invaded British territory, thats another deterant.
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Not like Argentina will every try anything. After the last dictatorship, the army got completely dismantled, it's almost non existent by now.
Other nations wouldn't get involved is what I've read, the US would especially not help the UK as they wan't the UK to lose the islands anyway.
Really?
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Other nations wouldn't get involved is what I've read, the US would especially not help the UK as they wan't the UK to lose the islands anyway.
I never said the US, and the US gets more from the UK being British than any other nation, this is one thing I can be certain on.
However as has been said the Argentine military is not even as strong as it was in 1982 so would have a hard job of taking the islands now.
Argentinians are a proud people, and so are the Falkland Islanders, it would be a sad world if war broke out over a location that started out as an uninhabited group of islands.
War should be the last resort, but many should remember that in 1982 the Argentine government decided NOT to talk, but to invade..
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Not like Argentina will every try anything. After the last dictatorship, the army got completely dismantled, it's almost non existent by now.
Really?
Yes, theres oil down there.. And the US have said the UK should give the Falklands to Argentina for years, let alone they said it last week.
I never said the US, and the US gets more from the UK being British than any other nation, this is one thing I can be certain on.
However as has been said the Argentine military is not even as strong as it was in 1982 so would have a hard job of taking the islands now.
Argentinians are a proud people, and so are the Falkland Islanders, it would be a sad world if war broke out over a location that started out as an uninhabited group of islands.
War should be the last resort, but many should remember that in 1982 the Argentine government decided NOT to talk, but to invade..
Today the Argentinian government choose not to talk, instead they moan to the UN about how the islands are theirs (lies), they continuously send single sentence messages and hints to the UK saying that the UK must give the islands to them, so the only way to shut them up it seems is to start a war over it, it'd need to be Argentina that starts the war however, the UK has changed alot since the British Empire and focuses on homeland defence, not invasion, that is why I guess the UK is the hardest place any country could possibly think of invading, however there are signs that the UK is preparing for war, they have 2 technological masterpieces in production (the 2 new aircraft carriers) and a submarine with more anti ship missiles than personel, in my opinion, after the UK has hold this referendum in which the Falklands islanders will choose to be British or Argentinian, if the vote stays UK which it most likely will, the UK needs to say to Argentina 'Shut the f**k up or invade' because thats the only way this whole situation will end.
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Yes, theres oil down there.. And the US have said the UK should give the Falklands to Argentina for years, let alone they said it last week.
What? No
http://www.defencemanagement.com/news_story.asp?id=19185 (http://www.defencemanagement.com/news_story.asp?id=19185)
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What? No
http://www.defencemanagement.com/news_story.asp?id=19185 (http://www.defencemanagement.com/news_story.asp?id=19185)
He said that to Cameron face to face, however soon after, I saw on BBC News that the Obama party (or whatever they are called) says the UK needs to hand over the Falklands.
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He said that to Cameron face to face, however soon after, I saw on BBC News that the Obama party (or whatever they are called) says the UK needs to hand over the Falklands.
Again, no. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterfoster/100165348/the-falklands-dispute-lays-bare-the-damage-that-barack-obama-has-done-to-the-not-so-special-us-uk-relationship/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterfoster/100165348/the-falklands-dispute-lays-bare-the-damage-that-barack-obama-has-done-to-the-not-so-special-us-uk-relationship/)
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Again, no. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterfoster/100165348/the-falklands-dispute-lays-bare-the-damage-that-barack-obama-has-done-to-the-not-so-special-us-uk-relationship/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterfoster/100165348/the-falklands-dispute-lays-bare-the-damage-that-barack-obama-has-done-to-the-not-so-special-us-uk-relationship/)
I'm saying what I heard and saw on BBC News.. The Obama Administration (Maybe not Obama directly, but his co-workers) have said the UK should hand over the islands.
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I'm saying what I heard and saw on BBC News.. The Obama Administration (Maybe not Obama directly, but his co-workers) have said the UK should hand over the islands.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100130943/the-obama-administration-knifes-britain-in-the-back-again-over-the-falklands/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100130943/the-obama-administration-knifes-britain-in-the-back-again-over-the-falklands/)
Sort of, but not really.
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Yes, theres oil down there.. And the US have said the UK should give the Falklands to Argentina for years, let alone they said it last week.
I can't find anything about the U.S. being involved in this just for the oil. In fact, to the contrary, the only reference to the two I find is an American firm signing a deal with the British to buy oil from the location. It would make no sense for the U.S. to support Argentina if that was their only goal.
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If it pisses off the Argentinians, I'm all for it :pop:
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I can't find anything about the U.S. being involved in this just for the oil. In fact, to the contrary, the only reference to the two I find is an American firm signing a deal with the British to buy oil from the location. It would make no sense for the U.S. to support Argentina if that was their only goal.
Is the hidden truth behind governments always broadcasted? No..
If it pisses off the Argentinians, I'm all for it :pop:
Thats the way I see it. :lol:
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Is the hidden truth behind governments always broadcasted? No..
Indeed they aren't, but I also don't see any evidence-backed theories regarding this either.
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Indeed they aren't, but I also don't see any evidence-backed theories regarding this either.
The US helped the nazi's ruin the British Empire through 'legal' business, do you really think they want the UK to have an island used for large scale British militiary operations up their own arse?
And I noticed you forum warned me because I said you have a lack of common sense, you also have a lack of tolerance now for that matter.
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Let's get back on topic...
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You funny pirates
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You funny pirates
Oh plz. :mad:
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Last I heard, Maradona pwnd them for Falklands so much, not even 3 invasions made their butthurt go away.
Hasta la Victoria siempre.
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Last I heard, Maradona pwnd them for Falklands so much, not even 3 invasions made their butthurt go away.
Hasta la Victoria siempre.
3 invasions on who..?
Hasta la Victoria siempre. = Until Victory, Always!
Makes no sense if you're always losing..
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Last I heard, Maradona pwnd them for Falklands so much, not even 3 invasions made their butthurt go away.
Hasta la Victoria siempre.
:girl:
Pirates gone mad
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:girl:
Pirates gone mad
If the British are pirates, why are Argentina provoking a war with a peaceful nation?
You have no factual comments to post, so you post something useless.
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If the British are pirates, why are Argentina provoking a war with a peaceful nation?
You have no factual comments to post, so you post something useless.
Since we are talking nonsense here I'd say my comments are pretty accurate
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Since we are talking nonsense here I'd say my comments are pretty accurate
A pirate is a sea-going thief, the UK hasnt stole anything, the first Pershing on the island was British, there for if anyones a pirate, Argentina is for trying to steal the islands.
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If the British are pirates, why are Argentina provoking a war with a peaceful nation?
You have no factual comments to post, so you post something useless.
>peaceful nation
LOL
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A pirate is a sea-going thief, the UK hasnt stole anything, the first Pershing on the island was British, there for if anyones a pirate, Argentina is for trying to steal the islands.
Sure sure..
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>peaceful nation
LOL
Well Argentina is the one seeking a war..
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and here we go go again
matute i'll kick your ass
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Mikal still talking nonesense? I'll stop now because I dont want to insult your lack of knowledge regarding this matter and also to prevent any future punishments
and here we go go again
matute i'll kick your ass
Oh you.
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3 invasions on who..?
Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq again.
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Hasta la Victoria siempre. = Until Victory, Always!
LOL. No.
Makes no sense if you're always losing..
Makes perfect sense if you're not using google translator like a boob.
Well Argentina is the one seeking a war..
Yes, they occupied Ireland, and now they're provoking the rest of the UK by sending more army up there.
PS
Alsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat iaaaaaaaaaaaaan
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Mikal still talking nonesense? I'll stop now because I dont want to insult your lack of knowledge regarding this matter and also to prevent any future punishments
You mean you'll stop because your lack knowledge.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq again.
Peace keeping operations.
LOL. No.Makes perfect sense if you're not using google translator like a boob.
Ah I see - 'Onward to Victory', for the UK maybe.
Yes, they occupied Ireland, and now they're provoking the rest of the UK by sending more army up there.
Alsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat iaaaaaaaaaaaaan
The UK is sending more of the military up there because Argentina randomly decided to bring it up out of the blue again, and also because there will be a vote, which will likely be for the islands to stay British, and the UK doesn't want to leave the islands unprotected if Argentina gets butt hurt and tries to invade again in which case they won't make it close to the coast.
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>You mean you'll stop because your lack knowledge.
>Peace keeping operations.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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lol at peaceful nation mikal, if anything argentina is making demands in a completely (perhaps too aggressive) diplomatic way, and UK decides to respond by sending a fuckload of military force down there.
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Seriously, stop lol
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
I don't see Serbia or Argentina fighting the Taliban sorry.
lol at peaceful nation mikal, if anything argentina is making demands in a completely (perhaps too aggressive) diplomatic way, and UK decides to respond by sending a f**kload of military force down there.
To protect the islands during and after this vote.
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I don't see Serbia or Argentina fighting the Taliban sorry.
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Yes bad bad talibans in Iraq and Iran, and Yugoslavia, and Lybia, and on Falklands, etc etc
Yet the Americans and UK are negotiating with talibans as offical representatives of Afghanistan as we speak.
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I don't see Serbia or Argentina fighting the Taliban sorry.
No offense but this is most retarded thing I've read on this forum.
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Yet the Americans and UK are negotiating with talibans as offical representatives of Afghanistan as we speak.
:lol: :rofl: What a load of bullshit.
No offense but this is most retarded thing I've read on this forum.
Defend your little mafia boss.
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You should be community banned for your stupidity.
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:lol: :rofl: What a load of bullshit.
>Mikal
HELP IM DYING HERE
Mate you're amusing more then 20 people at the moment, please don't stop this circus night you made
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You should be community banned for your stupidity.
Can't take facts so throws in some random bullshit.
>>Mikal
HELP IM DYING HERE
Mate you're amusing more then 20 people at the moment, please don't stop this circus night you made
Keep posting your 'factual' comments man, I'm not your mate by the way.
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Peace keeping operations.
An invasion based on complete ignorance of the UN Security Council (despite the fact they were consulted initially) is anything but peace keeping operation.
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Lol Mikal. I hope you don't seriously believe any of what you've written. Come back when you're not wasted and read through the posts. Perhaps read your own advice:
You mean you'll stop because your lack knowledge.
Never seen so much defensive crap for this country :roll:
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Is Prince Harry going there too, I remember he served in Helmand, but I doubt they'd let him go.
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Is Prince Harry going there too, I remember he served in Helmand, but I doubt they'd let him go.
We hope so.
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Smartass got smartfucked.. :lol:
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Smartass got smartf**ked.. :lol:
Is that provoking me because I got moderated? To be honest it doesn't bother me as my posts are still forwarded.
Is Prince Harry going there too, I remember he served in Helmand, but I doubt they'd let him go.
I think he is there.
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Degrading...
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Degrading...
What is? :poke:
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Peace keeping operations.
L O L
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What is?
Some members here.
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Is that provoking me because I got moderated? To be honest it doesn't bother me as my posts are still forwarded.
No, Lol.
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Some members here.
Understandable. :poke:
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SOURCE: Wikipedia
On 2 April 1982, Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands and other British territories in the South Atlantic. By exploiting the long-standing feelings of Argentines towards the islands, the nation's ruling military junta sought to divert public attention from Argentina's poor economic performance and growing internal opposition.
Are the Argentinians in some kind of mess back home?
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SOURCE: Wikipedia
Are the Argentinians in some kind of mess back home?
Back then we were a mess yes.
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SOURCE: Wikipedia
Are the Argentinians in some kind of mess back home?
I've seen that on TV nevermind the wiki, it seems thats what Argentina's government still does today.
Back then we were a mess yes.
I just realised your forum signature, good way of provoking the British without saying anything eh?
At the end of the day it's pretty obvious that Argentina is once again drawing attention of it's citizens from their financial problems and making them focus their anger onto the British, once again.. After this vote in April or whenever it is, do you Argentinians plan on leaving the islanders alone IF they vote to stay British, which surveys say they will.
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I just realised your forum signature, good way of provoking the British without saying anything eh?
He can do it as much as you can come here in forums saying ''british people found it, british people live there, british people etc etc etc etc''.
At the end of the day it's pretty obvious that Argentina is once again drawing attention of it's citizens from their financial problems and making them focus their anger onto the British, once again.. After this vote in April or whenever it is, do you Argentinians plan on leaving the islanders alone IF they vote to stay British, which surveys say they will.
After all, it's Argentina that spends rivers of cash on royal marriages while diving into economical hardships...
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He can do it as much as you can come here in forums saying ''british people found it, british people live there, british people etc etc etc etc''.
I never said it was a problem.. I don't find it provocative, the islands are British and I know that, a little signature won't change anything.
After all, it's Argentina that spends rivers of cash on royal marriages while diving into economical hardships...
Whats that supposed to mean..?
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Whats that supposed to mean..?
Read it again.
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At the end of the day it's pretty obvious that Argentina is once again drawing attention of it's citizens from their financial problems and making them focus their anger onto the British, once again.. After this vote in April or whenever it is, do you Argentinians plan on leaving the islanders alone IF they vote to stay British, which surveys say they will.
Personally I'd respect the islanders decision but our government sure as hell won't. And they are right in a way - all those people were brought from Britain, of course they'd want to stay british, making this referendum void.
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I just realised your forum signature, good way of provoking the British without saying anything eh?
How is my signature provocative? I had another one, but that one was very provocative ^^.
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Personally I'd respect the islanders decision but our government sure as hell won't. And they are right in a way - all those people were brought from Britain, of course they'd want to stay british, making this referendum void.
Before the British found the islands it had no inhabitants, only birds, after the British left, the French colonised the islands, and everyone knows the French were one of the main enemies of the British Empire back then, so the British kicked them back off and took the islands leaving a small British colony there, the islands were never owned by anyone but the British, so it's greedy of Argentina to take claim over them and it's obviously clear that your government just uses them to draw attention from it's own problems which are much, much bigger than the islands.
How is my signature provocative? I had another one, but that one was very provocative ^^.
It shows the Falklands, which are British islands.. How about I make a signature with the whole of Argentina and paste a giant British flag over the top of it, would you like that..? :poke:
After all, it's Argentina that spends rivers of cash on royal marriages while diving into economical hardships...
Royal events in the UK create ALOT of tourism which pays for itself, sure the royal family may be British, but they are supported all over the world.
For example, after the royal wedding there was a massive street party in New York, I remember seeing that on BBC News.
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Royal events in the UK create ALOT of tourism which pays for itself, sure the royal family may be British, but they are supported all over the world.
For example, after the royal wedding there was a massive street party in New York, I remember seeing that on BBC News.
Well it doesn't seem like it paid for itself, because we hear of dangers of recession, then the topic of Scotland becomes hot again, and now UK is desperate to bail out of the European Union (no cash 4 nannying lol). Oh and you are wrong, most of the world doesn't give a shit about them or just consider them like any other known person. The NATO gang and its asskissers aren't the whole world.
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Well it doesn't seem like it paid for itself, because we hear of dangers of recession, then the topic of Scotland becomes hot again, and now UK is desperate to bail out of the European Union (no cash 4 nannying lol). Oh and you are wrong, most of the world doesn't give a shit about them or just consider them like any other known person. The NATO gang and its asskissers aren't the whole world.
The royal events do pay for themselves, they create alot of business and tourism, the the royal family existing brings tourism.. Scotland won't be leaving the UK no matter how much people talk about it, atleast according to every Scottish person I've spoke to, the UK isn't desperate to leave the EU at all, leaving the EU would cause more problems than anything else, the prime minister himself has said he does not want the UK to leave the EU, if most the world doesn't care why is a massive part of it part of Common Wealth? :poke:
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if most the world doesn't care why is a massive part of it part of Common Wealth? :poke:
>massive part
LOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLLOLOOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL
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>massive part
LOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLLOLOOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL
Oh my bad, I didn't realise Australia and Canada were tiny.
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Oh my bad, I didn't realise Australia and Canada were tiny.
It accounts for one fifth of the total land area and about one third of the world population. It's a big part of, but not massive part of, much less majority. Lol.
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It accounts for one fifth of the total land area and about one third of the world population. It's a big part of, but not massive part of, much less majority. Lol.
And what about all them smaller countries spread across the globe..
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I know that feel bro, for both of nations..
Btw y u no let Rooney and Messi play 1v1 and who wins get islands?
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And what about all them smaller countries spread across the globe..
I was talking about the entire Commonwealth. :skull:
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I know that feel bro, for both of nations..
Btw y u no let Rooney and Messi play 1v1 and who wins get islands?
great idea
just not national teams pls, 1v1 only
I was talking about the entire Commonwealth. :skull:
the commonwealth IS massive man. Doesn't make it powerful or anything, just big as fuck.
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It shows the Falklands, which are British islands.. How about I make a signature with the whole of Argentina and paste a giant British flag over the top of it, would you like that..? :poke:
You say they are yours I say they are mine.
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You say they are yours I say they are mine.
They arnt yours and they arnt mine, they belong to the British government.
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They arnt yours and they arnt mine, they belong to the British government.
Yes, and France used to belong to Germany.
They're completely in tittle to address those island as theirs, and you can't do anything about it except being butthurt.
Scotland won't be leaving the UK no matter how much people talk about it, atleast according to every Scottish person I've spoke to
Do you even know which political part won the election in Scotland? Do you know what's their prime objective?
In other news, four out of five IRA groups have merged and united:
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They're completely in tittle to address those island as theirs, and you can't do anything about it except being butthurt.
Las Malvinas son Argentinas.
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If the British can keep the oil, will they be ok with giving the islands? And will Argentina still want them?
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Argentina would still want them only to say "HAHA WE BEAT IMPERIALIST DOGS ARGENTINA STRONG ARGENTINA #1"
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Do you even know which political part won the election in Scotland? Do you know what's their prime objective?
No matter what their objective, only the general public can decide if they leave or not, and surveys say they will vote to stay.
If the British can keep the oil, will they be ok with giving the islands? And will Argentina still want them?
The UK is letting the islanders vote what they want, the UK or Argentina, theres oil down there, but the Falklands arnt just over that, it's over showing Argentina who still has the power to dominate and keeping it in respect for those who died, why else would have the UK have battled for them during the Falklands war when they didn't even know there was oil there.
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why else would have the UK have battled for them during the Falklands war when they didn't even know there was oil there.
Because Thatcher needed a popularity bump, hard?
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Because Thatcher needed a popularity bump, hard?
Thats actually true, but it was one hell of a risk to take, however I doubt the oil thats at the Falklands will cover the costs it takes to defend it.
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No matter what their objective, only the general public can decide if they leave or not, and surveys say they will vote to stay.
The same general public who gave absolute support on official elections to a political party who's prime objective is declaring independence of Scotland via referendum.
Surveys are exactly that, surveys, you can't count them as relevant much if they got overruled and dismissed by official elections results.
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The same general public who gave absolute support on official elections to a political party who's prime objective is declaring independence of Scotland via referendum.
Surveys are exactly that, surveys, you can't count them as relevant much if they got overruled and dismissed by official elections results.
You can count surveys actually, as they have asked a large majority of the Scottish public and the bigger majority of that wan't Scotland to stay in the UK.
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You can count surveys actually, as they have asked a large majority of the Scottish public and the bigger majority of that wan't Scotland to stay in the UK.
Do you even know how do they make those surveys? Do you know how many of them are simply fake or rigged to support someones interests?
Like i've said:
Surveys are exactly that, surveys, you can't count them as relevant much if they got overruled and dismissed by official elections results.
And obviously, they did.
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Do you even know how do they make those surveys? Do you know how many of them are simply fake or rigged to support someones interests?
Like i've said:
And obviously, they did.
Then we will find out whos right when the vote takes place for Scotland to leave or stay.
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Then we will find out whos right when the vote takes place for Scotland to leave or stay.
Absolutely.
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I think Falklands are Argentinian and Only Argentinian althougth we have a Shitty government and it isnt possible to take actions against Uk threatens
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I think Falklands are Argentinian and Only Argentinian althougth we have a Shitty government and it isnt possible to take actions against Uk threatens
But why do you think they should be Argentina's? What makes you think that? :poke:
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How is my signature provocative? I had another one, but that one was very provocative ^^.
Mikal the signature of Matute is ok IDK why but the Islands are marked in red and white and thats not argentinian Flag.
and also btw there are offences from both British and Argentinian sides
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But why do you think they should be Argentina's? What makes you think that? :poke:
Oohh Mikal didnt your parents telled you this when you where a little kid?
When a country has Another part of land in a limit of 200 miles away from the shore are declared as territory of the Country and Malvinas are 180 miles away so they are in Plataforma submarina perteneciente a La Republica Argentina (in spanish) so Malvinas are in Argentinian territory
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Mikal the signature of Matute is ok IDK why but the Islands are marked in red and white and thats not argentinian Flag.
and also btw there are offences from both British and Argentinian sides
Post Merge: January 16, 2013, 01:17:06 am
Oohh Mikal didnt your parents telled you this when you where a little kid?
When a country has Another part of land in a limit of 200 miles away from the shore are declared as territory of the Country and Malvinas are 180 miles away so they are in Plataforma submarina perteneciente a La Republica Argentina (in spanish) so Malvinas are in Argentinian territory
Or maybe Argentina belongs to the UK, since it's 180 miles away from British territory, or maybe Brazil belongs to Argentina or vise versa, as they are all neighbors..
Yes, your logic doesn't work, the first person to ever step foot on the islands was British, therefore they are British islands.
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Or maybe Argentina belongs to the UK, since it's 180 miles away from British territory, or maybe Brazil belongs to Argentina or vise versa, as they are all neighbors..
Yes, your logic doesn't work, the first person to ever step foot on the islands was British, therefore they are British islands.
Mikal you must be Joking man
Argentina is a COUNTRY Malvinas Is a TERRITORY it has no prime minister or President
and Argentina and Brazil have no political problems between each others and they have a neutral Place
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Mikal you must be Joking man
Argentina is a COUNTRY Malvinas Is a TERRITORY it has no prime minister or President
and Argentina and Brazil have no political problems between each others and they have a neutral Place
I'm not joking, I was using your logic against you, they are governed by the UK, they come under the governing of the UK just as Great Britain and Northern Ireland do.
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Or maybe Argentina belongs to the UK, since it's 180 miles away from British territory, or maybe Brazil belongs to Argentina or vise versa, as they are all neighbors..
Yes, your logic doesn't work, the first person to ever step foot on the islands was British, therefore they are British islands.
Its not his logic, its international law. And he has a big point, since the UK unlike USA, has signed the UNCLOS III, so they're forced by international law to implement it.
I beg you to stop talking about things you got no clue of, its getting humiliating how you attempt to "use his logic against him" yet you dont know what the hell you're talking about.
No disrespect intended.
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respect intended.
I beg to differ, you've been calling me retarded throughout this topic, unlike some I don't spend my spare time reading the international law book, and screw that law, Argentina's government can keep whining, it's always been British territory so that law shouldn't even be considered.
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Or maybe Argentina belongs to the UK, since it's 180 miles away from British territory, or maybe Brazil belongs to Argentina or vise versa, as they are all neighbors..
Country, shores. Brazil only shares land borders with Argentina.
Two simple words; you ignored both.
:ps: Matute's sig actually implies Falklands belong to Belarus.
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Matute's sig actually implies Falklands belong to Belarus.
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/45839000/gif/_45839963_belarus226.gif)
I think thats a bit far away..
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I think thats a bit far away..
You say that because the gone-bankrupt colonial empire will never reach the mighty overseas territories of Belarus.
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You say that because the gone-bankrupt colonial empire will never reach the mighty overseas territories of Belarus.
Sorry, you forget to mention the navy of the once powerful colonial empire is still the worlds 2nd most powerful, due to be first with it's 2 SOTA Elizabeth class carriers which are due to be finished by 2016 and 2018, along with the 3 submarines under construction which will also be the worlds most powerful and technologicly advanced submarines ever to be constructed, if you look at the statistics you will see the UK is getting more powerful as the years go by, every empire falls, but every empire has the chance to rise back up, not that the UK will ever start being colonial all over again, that'd just ruin it, but it will still make the UK a force to be respected one again.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jaFikCYDuas/TZEbORZOHaI/AAAAAAAABoI/fXU1T_9tIfc/s1600/Queen+Elizabeth+class.jpg)(http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/33168/0x0/astutesubmarinelaunch.jpg)
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Very usefull to spend money on aircraft carriers under these economic conditions. :lol:
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Everyone always says their new weapon is the most technologically advanced available one. However, seeing as UK only can rise their tone against Argentina, I'd think twice before considering your boasting believable.
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Very usefull to spend money on aircraft carriers under these economic conditions. :lol:
When you are defending a nation, the cost is invaluable.
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Very usefull to spend money on aircraft carriers under these economic conditions. :lol:
Hey man look at the US, they facing falling off the fiscal cliff and they still keep 10 aircraft carriers in operation..
Plus, all these military constructions will create a shitload of jobs, and already have in the engineering area.
Everyone always says their new weapon is the most technologically advanced available one. However, seeing as UK only can rise their tone against Argentina, I'd think twice before considering your boasting believable.
Look at the UK's power during the Falklands war and what it's come to today.
The UKs military was ruined after the WW's and has been recovering ever since, the British had barely anything back then during the war, now look what it's got today and compare.
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When you are defending a nation, the cost is invaluable.
Yeah many people are threatening to invade your country
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Yeah many people are threatening to invade your country
No, but the UK does alot of work in other countries such as Afghanistan, Iraq or Iran, plus the Falklands and other British over seas territories, that why they are needed.
Edit
I found it:
This shows British military power on the Falklands back then compared to today.
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/58809000/gif/_58809258_falkland_anniversary_976_2.gif)
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FUCK u
you had to look up fucking belarus on the fucking wikipedia ha ?
do u even fucking geography what the fuck?
bring mujahideen to ur 1200 garrison 3 ships HAHA 3 ships rapier missiles ? shit
those planes will not stand a fucking chance infront of rpg 7
2014 best day of my life , news headline :
uk extracted from falklands by mujahideen heroes
rest in peace oppressor dogs
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f**k u
you had to look up f**king belarus on the f**king wikipedia ha ?
do u even f**king geography what the f**k?
bring mujahideen to ur 1200 garrison 3 ships HAHA 3 ships rapier missiles ? shit
those planes will not stand a f**king chance infront of rpg 7
2014 best day of my life , news headline :
uk extracted from falklands by mujahideen heroes
rest in peace oppressor dogs
That made less sense than all off my 'lack of knowledge' posts in this topic put together.
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thanks for admitting ur misinformation, dog.
you're credibility has been removed, take yourself from my presence
maybe while you are looking for forgiveness you can observe my words closely,
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sorry you are labeling the truth like that?
open ur fucking nose
the uk will be extracted swiftly from falkland
who taught u to read ? i thought all u uk keep butler in ur farms or something?
why the fuck he did not taught you?
tell planchet to help u
you can not continue like this
stop
please
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Something smells like a troll.
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Something smells like a troll.
something smells like illiterate sheepfucker who ran out of propagandas to release
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Guys my son is half sheep, I don't appreciate you talking about us this way.
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Users caught flaming previous to this post have been moderated. Please get back on topic.
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:ps: Matute's sig actually implies Falklands belong to Belarus.
lol
(http://sp3.fotolog.com/photo/51/43/54/yojuampii_carp14/1271615100515_f.jpg)
<3
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No, but the UK does alot of work in other countries such as Afghanistan, Iraq or Iran, plus the Falklands and other British over seas territories, that why they are needed.
He expressly said "defending a nation". Invading countries just because Daddy USA told you to ain't exactly that.
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uk has shit on the whole world and fuck up biggest countries and divide nations (( china,india etc etc)),
they also shit on their kingdom, if some nation want to leave uk and form their own independing country they should not force them to stay.
if u consider the past then yes, let the immigrants stay. also the uk isnt heaven pls stop being a dumb patriot sry
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He expressly said "defending a nation". Invading countries just because Daddy USA told you to ain't exactly that.
Daddy USA doesn't have any say in the UK, let me refer you to the word 'alliance' and the UKUSA agreement. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement)
Want to hold an alliance between 2 countries? Help eachother, in times of economic problems it's best 2 allies stick closly together to cut down their own military spending, not that the US does that, but the UK does and thats why we have such a small military for a country with global influence.
uk has shit on the whole world and f**k up biggest countries and divide nations (( china,india etc etc)),
they also shit on their kingdom, if some nation want to leave uk and form their own independing country they should not force them to stay.
if u consider the past then yes, let the immigrants stay. also the uk isnt heaven pls stop being a dumb patriot sry
Sorry Mr CommonWealthCountry.
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lol
(http://sp3.fotolog.com/photo/51/43/54/yojuampii_carp14/1271615100515_f.jpg)
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Yay River!!! <3<3<3<3
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Daddy USA doesn't have any say in the UK
LOL
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When you are defending a nation, the cost is invaluable.
Do we really need to defend ourselves, like we did years ago, with those nukes weapons everywhere around the globe ?
/think and /discuss
Hey man look at the US, they facing falling off the fiscal cliff and they still keep 10 aircraft carriers in operation..
Plus, all these military constructions will create a shitload of jobs, and already have in the engineering area.
Look at the UK's power during the Falklands war and what it's come to today.
Look how the US debt increase day after day. One day, they'll colapse. Just wait.
Because it can't keep up this way. USA can't continue spending billions of dollars in a useless army.
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Some previous posts in here are containing things that are bordering on flaming and provoking. Keep those kinds of comments out of here. If you guys can't discuss it without breaking the rules, this will be locked.
This is not directed at any single person.
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Look how the US debt increase day after day. One day, they'll colapse. Just wait.
Because it can't keep up this way. USA can't continue spending billions of dollars in a useless army.
While it's true the USA is in trillons of debt I don't think they'll collapse. That's just how the world works right now, stacking up debts.
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While it's true the USA is in trillons of debt I don't think they'll collapse. That's just how the world works right now, stacking up debts.
Actually it won't take very long for the USA to collapse.
The debts keep stacking up and someone's going to have to pay this. Who? The people.
Taxes will increase, people will lose a huge part of their salary aswell, only for this debt to be repaid.
One day it won't be able to go further, money will not come anymore and debts will just continue to go up.
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While it's true the USA is in trillons of debt I don't think they'll collapse. That's just how the world works right now, stacking up debts.
You think China's going to let them off with all them billions for the next 100 years without saying or doing shit all?
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You think China's going to let them off with all them billions for the next 100 years without saying or doing shit all?
You think they'll go to war over that? Without USA buying all the manufactured goods China produces, they'll collapse way before the US does to their debt.
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Sell more 50 cents burgers, problem solved.
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I wish we had 50 cent burgers.
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Racial stereotyping, again, will not be tolerated. If you cannot handle the topic peacefully, expect to be punished.
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You think they'll go to war over that? Without USA buying all the manufactured goods China produces, they'll collapse way before the US does to their debt.
The whole UK, Europe, Russia and other places buy off China, so the US isnt really a big deal to them.. Though it does buy alot.
I wish we had 50 cent burgers.
99p burgers in the UK McDonalds. :D
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The whole UK, Europe, Russia and other places buy off China, so the US isnt really a big deal to them..
~20% is a huge chunk man, especially when we're talking about billons of dollars
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Racial stereotyping, again, will not be tolerated. If you cannot handle the topic peacefully, expect to be punished.
My bad
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What... sorcery is this?
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Racial stereotyping, again, will not be tolerated.
Germans are very punctual and hardworking people! British people have a great sense of humor! Canadians are very polite! Punish me! NOW! You should not tolerate this kind of stereotyping from me!
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Germans are very punctual and hardworking people! British people have a great sense of humor! Canadians are very polite! Punish me! NOW! You should not tolerate this kind of stereotyping from me!
:rofl: <good sense of humour.
Racial stereotyping, again, will not be tolerated. If you cannot handle the topic peacefully, expect to be punished.
That whole thing is crap. Some stereotypes are true...
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Stereotyping is deemed offensive and therefore not tolerated. The same way you can't call anyone a 'noob' ingame.
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I'll stand by my statement; the rest can continue to deny the truth :)
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Kelpers are alive thanks to Argentina government and factories That send provitions to the islands so IDK why Argentina and UK cant work toghether and solve this problem in a good way.
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Kelpers are alive thanks to Argentina government and factories That send provitions to the islands so IDK why Argentina and UK cant work toghether and solve this problem in a good way.
I don't know why Argentina can't just let it go altogether.. Oh wait I do, they are using the islands to distract it's people from their political problems. :roll:
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Implying UK Government isn't doing the exact same thing.
Raising up nationalism among its population, in the middle of the biggest economic crises, considering to leave EU if shistorm happens, Scotland road toward referendum, and IRA uniting its sections after several decades.
Lets not be hypocrite here.
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Implying UK Government isn't doing the exact same thing.
Raising up nationalism among its population, in the middle of the biggest economic crises, considering to leave EU if shistorm happens, Scotland road toward referendum, and IRA uniting its sections after several decades.
Lets not be hypocrite here.
The UK isnt doing the same thing, the islands were peaceful until Argentina's president opened her big mouth.
- IRA are not a threat to the UK, they can barely keep themselves alive and active.
- Scotlands referendum won't do much, it's just the Scottish government trying to get some power, the UK will stay united.
- The UK is already extremely nationalist, thats why most of it's citizens want to leave the EU, and thats why the government keeps delaying a referendum on it, because they know it will end up the UK leaving the EU regardless of their opinions.
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First of all don't insult Cristina Fernández, she's a lady, and one hack of a milf, so watch your big mouth or fear the anger of the entire Argonath Milf Hunter Community.
Second of all, it was peaceful until you decided to send more troops. Using force cause of 'words', and breaking international law is, let say in the most calm possible way, unjustified.
The UK isnt doing the same thing, the islands were peaceful until Argentina's president opened her big mouth.
- IRA are not a threat to the UK, they can barely keep themselves alive and active.
That's what BBC wants you to think.
- Scotlands referendum won't do much, it's just the Scottish government trying to get some power, the UK will stay united.
That's how things starts, when someone wants to gain back sovereignty and independence. And I'm speaking from our own experience(Someone said Yugoslavia?).
- The UK is already extremely nationalist, thats why most of it's citizens want to leave the EU, and thats why the government keeps delaying a referendum on it, because they know it will end up the UK leaving the EU regardless of their opinions.
Yes the UK is extremely nationalistic. Irish nationalism is going up, Soctish nationalism is raising up, and English are just being English. And cause of that your Government serves you wit the "UK nationalism' to keep all of them busy and focus/channel that nationalism on something so stupid like some islands 1200 km away from Antarctic.
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Well said man, though if you think Cristina's a good president, she's really not. She is giving the british one hell of a fight though
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First of all don't insult Cristina Fernández, she's a lady, and one hack of a milf, so watch your big mouth or fear the anger of the entire Argonath Milf Hunter Community.
By MILF hunter community you mean nerds who can't get real girl friends and get rock ons over a picture.
Second of all, it was peaceful until you decided to send more troops. Using force cause of 'words', and breaking international law is, let say in the most calm possible way, unjustified.
They stepped up security to prevent Argentina invading before or after the referendum.
That's what BBC wants you to think.
Only a small part of the BBC is owned by the government, so you can't go saying the government controls what they say, they are one of the most truthful news organizations in the world.
That's how things starts, when someone wants to gain back sovereignty and independence. And I'm speaking from our own experience(Someone said Yugoslavia?).
Yes the UK is extremely nationalistic. Irish nationalism is going up, Soctish nationalism is raising up, and English are just being English. And cause of that your Government serves you wit the "UK nationalism' to keep all of them busy and focus/channel that nationalism on something so stupid like some islands 1200 km away from Antarctic.
I'm not talking about single Scotland or Ireland nationalism, I'm talking about the whole UK being nationalist about the UK, nobody wants the UK to split, which is why it won't.
Well said man, though if you think Cristina's a good president, she's really not. She is giving the british one hell of a fight though
A fight on paper and over the web, not face to face.
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YEAH, what a MILF
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/486030/thumbs/a-ARGENTINA-PRESIDENT-640x468.jpg)
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A fight on paper and over the web, not face to face.
That's how politics work, you'll know more as you get older.
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By MILF hunter community you mean nerds who can't get real girl friends and get rock ons over a picture.
Who said anything about internet? There's people here, who are MILF hunters in real life, I know few of them. The only one mentioning internet is you, so you just proved that you're the nerd here. And a confused one I may say.
They stepped up security to prevent Argentina invading before or after the referendum.
Yes, I will use force cause people are going on a democratic election method. That's what we called NATO/USA hypocrisy, when they invade countries in the name of 'democracy'.
Only a small part of the BBC is owned by the government, so you can't go saying the government controls what they say, they are one of the most truthful news organizations in the world.
Please nigga, Politics>Mass Media. Do you really believe in the freedom of write when it comes to journalist in BBC? or CNN? Be real.
I'm not talking about single Scotland or Ireland nationalism, I'm talking about the whole UK being nationalist about the UK, nobody wants the UK to split, which is why it won't.
Maybe you guys in Sheepland dont want UK to split, altough I had a pleasure in meeting some of your Welsh people who wouldn't have a problem in getting Wales as some form of co-federation of independent states.
A fight on paper and over the web, not face to face.
Yet you're being butthurt.
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I'll stand by my statement; the rest can continue to deny the truth :)
It doesn't matter if they are true or not. They are still meant to be offensive, and will not be tolerated.
All of you please get back on topic if you wish to discuss something here. This is not a discussion about who wants to have sex with someone else's mother.
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YEAH, what a MILF
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/486030/thumbs/a-ARGENTINA-PRESIDENT-640x468.jpg)
If thats a MILF then WHAT THE f**k?!
Who said anything about internet? There's people here, who are MILF hunters in real life, I know few of them. The only one mentioning internet is you, so you just proved that you're the nerd here. And a confused one I may say.
k sir milf hunter with odd tastes.
Yes, I will use force cause people are going on a democratic election method. That's what we called NATO/USA hypocrisy, when they invade countries in the name of 'democracy'.
The UK isnt invading, they are defending.
Maybe you guys in Sheepland dont want UK to split
Oh stereotyping are we?
(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Serbia+Stereotypes.+if+someone+from+serbia+is+not+so+lazy_4c25a5_3163187.png)
altough I had a pleasure in meeting some of your Welsh people who wouldn't have a problem in getting Wales as some form of co-federation of independent states.
I don't know what odd Welsh people you've met, but Wales used to be part of England and is still today very close with England, so there'd never be the chance of Wales leaving the UK.
That's how politics work, you'll know more as you get older.
I already know alot about politics, if you didn't realise I'm 2 years older than you. :razz:
Not that age has anything to do with this..
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They stepped up security to prevent Argentina invading before or after the referendum.
Argentina has said a hundred times we will NEVER invade the islands again. EVER. Yet you decide to bring in more and more troops. I wonder who's trying to provoke a conflict?
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Oh stereotyping are we?
Horrible joke. :skull:
You'll get the same answer for 98% of the world's countries.
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If thats a MILF then WHAT THE f**k?!
k sir milf hunter with odd tastes.
She was when her husband was the president.
The UK isnt invading, they are defending.
LOL. Same as you defend the Afghans from the Afghans.
Oh stereotyping are we?
Why is a stereotype if I called it SheepLand? All those Welsh people who I've met are proud of the fact you're famous for sheeps. Just like I'm proud on the fact that Novak Djokovic, Ana Ivanovic, Jelena Jankovic, Nikola Tesla, Nemanja Vidic, Emir Kusturica etc are Serbs. And the entire world knows them.
I already know alot about politics, if you didn't realise I'm 2 years older than you. :razz:
Not that age has anything to do with this..
Actually you dont, you just think you do, and most of the people pointed that out for you here, including me, who's 6 years older then you.
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This is the last time I'm going to tell you people to drop the MILF conversation and stop provoking each other.
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Argentina has said a hundred times we will NEVER invade the islands again. EVER. Yet you decide to bring in more and more troops. I wonder who's trying to provoke a conflict?
Words don't always define what someone is thinking.
Horrible joke. :skull:
You'll get the same answer for 98% of the world's countries.
Ok so you don't know where Russia, USA, China, UK, Africa, and Europe are?
Just like I'm proud on the fact that Novak Djokovic, Ana Ivanovic, Jelena Jankovic, Nikola Tesla, Nemanja Vidic, Emir Kusturica etc are Serbs. And the entire world knows them.
Don't know them.. Doubt many people do.
Actually you dont, you just think you do, and most of the people pointed that out for you here, including me, who's 6 years older then you.
Says the one seeking an argument.
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Don't know them.. Doubt many people do.
Isn't surprising that you don't.
Says the one seeking an argument.
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Lol funny thing is, while I was uploading this picture the captcha text on the site was 'knock off'
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This is the last time I'm going to tell you people to drop the MILF conversation.
Signature material. :lol:
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Mikal you're wrong man.
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bla bla bla bla
I didn't say I don't like arguing, I just said you were seeking an argument. ;)
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Since people have continued to disobey the rules and start arguments, this is being locked.
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People, please stick to the rules when discussing, do not allow the conversation to get out of hand, and do not make personal attacks.
Re-opened.
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Ppl talking bout my president
(http://www.tvpublica.com.ar/hub/image/a7714e0b-e952-466f-b756-7c182186d296/a7714e0b-e952-466f-b756-7c182186d296)
The UK isnt invading, they are defending.
Defending what?
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Ok so you don't know where Russia, USA, China, UK, Africa, and Europe are?
watttttttttt
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Ppl talking bout my president
(http://www.tvpublica.com.ar/hub/image/a7714e0b-e952-466f-b756-7c182186d296/a7714e0b-e952-466f-b756-7c182186d296)Defending what?
If that was her back in the day, she doesn't look like that today..
Defending what?
The British islands..
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The British islands..
But no one wants to invade you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! god DAMN
I missed you all guys, i cried when the thread got locked
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But no one wants to invade you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! god DAMN
Prove it. :razz:
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This is a serious discussion.
I don't think anyone can seriously believe any country in Europe could fear invasion from anyone in the entire world.
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This is a serious discussion.
I don't think anyone can seriously believe any country in Europe could fear invasion from anyone in the entire world.
Specially from us, giving the fact that we are very good at war and shit
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This is a serious discussion.
I don't think anyone can seriously believe any country in Europe could fear invasion from anyone in the entire world.
Whys that?
Specially from us, giving the fact that we are very good at war and shit
Then why arnt the Falklands Argentina's already? :lol:
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Then why arnt the Falklands Argentina's already? :lol:
Gotta love when sarcasm is missed.
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Oh lord. :pop:
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Gotta love when sarcasm is missed.
Hard to tell sarcasm when it's written with text and not emotion. :poke:
That or I just need to stop posting at 1am. :D
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Whys that?
Surely you could number the reasons better than I do. But between NATO and, in UK's case, being a world military power is enough to stop any foreign country from starting shit.
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This is a serious discussion.
I don't think anyone can seriously believe any country in Europe could fear invasion from anyone in the entire world.
Some countries in Europe are afraid of Russian invasion if the right conditions are met and yes, seriously. In here, Estonia, you can hear stories of Russia being able to occupy the whole country in 4 hours and how NATO doesn't actually have any kind of defensive plans to this regions.
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Some countries in Europe are afraid of Russian invasion if the right conditions are met and yes, seriously. In here, Estonia, you can hear stories of Russia being able to occupy the whole country in 4 hours and how NATO doesn't actually have any kind of defensive plans to this regions.
Interesting but it has nothing to do with the topic. I might have worded my statement in a wrong way, but in the end the UK is nothing like Estonia or any country in Eastern Europe.
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First off, hi Jubin long time no see(I'm Matute).
Second, to Mikal. Maluines(As the French first called them) were occupied by the French(how redundancy), Spain acknowledging this situation, indemnifies them. They later became part of the ''Virreinato del Rio de la Plata'' which after their independence came known as Argentina. First-born islanders were from Argentina(in fact we set the first goverment there), so dont even try to deny that. In 1883(I think) you pirates(british) came to invade the island, and since then you are trying to claim them as yours. Only in 1983 with the militaries(yes we were governed by them) we ''tried'' to send some troops(18 year old with no war experience whatsoever and with 50's weaponry), of course we failed. Islanders there are descendants of british(therefore you say it is ''yours'').
Now that I bring this up(yea, didnt think i'd had to come to this point) what will you say? Defend them from what? We havent sent any army since 1982, fear from who? an unarmed nation? Misslead our nation from what originaly belonged to us?.. give me a break.
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Surely you could number the reasons better than I do. But between NATO and, in UK's case, being a world military power is enough to stop any foreign country from starting shit.
Yes, but no NATO country would get involved unless things went bad for the UK.
First off, hi Jubin long time no see(I'm Matute).
Second, to Mikal. Maluines(As the French first called them) were occupied by the French(how redundancy), Spain acknowledging this situation, indemnifies them. They later became part of the ''Virreinato del Rio de la Plata'' which after their independence came known as Argentina. First-born islanders were from Argentina(in fact we set the first goverment there), so dont even try to deny that. In 1883(I think) you pirates(british) came to invade the island, and since then you are trying to claim them as yours. Only in 1983 with the militaries(yes we were governed by them) we ''tried'' to send some troops(18 year old with no war experience whatsoever and with 50's weaponry), of course we failed. Islanders there are descendants of british(therefore you say it is ''yours'').
Now that I bring this up(yea, didnt think i'd had to come to this point) what will you say? Defend them from what? We havent sent any army since 1982, fear from who? an unarmed nation? Misslead our nation from what originaly belonged to us?.. give me a break.
Still, Britain first found the islands, the French colonised them, Britain found out that their enemy (the French) had done so and decided to remove them, the islands were not taken illegaly but by colonial war of the British and French, you should know that the main empires of the day were British, French and Chinese.
Argentina didn't 'try' to send in some troops, they did send in a whole lot of troops, Argentina took advantage of how the British had been weakened deeply after WW2, I guess it took them until 1883 to actually realised, if Argentina had tried to take the islands right after WW2, the islands might actually belong to Argentina as the UK (Great Britain and N.Ireland) only had enough military power to defend it's homeland, nevermind sailing half way round the world.. You today claim the UK took them illegaly, if that were so would the UN be supporting the UK with it? Would the UN be putting sanctions on Argentina if they invaded again? Yes they would.
The islands were taken through British vs French warfare, not illegally.
Some countries in Europe are afraid of Russian invasion if the right conditions are met and yes, seriously. In here, Estonia, you can hear stories of Russia being able to occupy the whole country in 4 hours and how NATO doesn't actually have any kind of defensive plans to this regions.
Actually there is plans, the UK (thought constantly arguing with the EU) and France has nuclear weapons and would use them if Russia did try to take over the whole EU, not to mention the fact that the EU is a potential next super power (though China will probibly take that first) and the US would also join the EU in such 'party' which would leave Russia completely fucked, unless China decided to join in help Russia in which case it'd be WW3 and everyone better have a bomb shelter in their back garden.
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I doubt that China would help out Russia. India (they're also a nuclear power) is Russia's closest ally in that region and they wouldn't dare to do anything that would offend the Americans.
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I doubt that China would help out Russia. India (they're also a nuclear power) is Russia's closest ally in that region and they wouldn't dare to do anything that would offend the Americans.
India's a close ally to the UK, business and military, so I don't think they'd help out Russia, and please.. India can't manage basic road safety nevermind nuclear missiles, not to offend India, but they'll probibly end up blowing themselves up other than anyone else.
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Still, Britain first found the islands, the French colonised them, Britain found out that their enemy (the French) had done so and decided to remove them, the islands were not taken illegaly but by colonial war of the British and French, you should know that the main empires of the day were British, French and Chinese.
Argentina didn't 'try' to send in some troops, they did send in a whole lot of troops, Argentina took advantage of how the British had been weakened deeply after WW2, I guess it took them until 1883 to actually realised, if Argentina had tried to take the islands right after WW2, the islands might actually belong to Argentina as the UK (Great Britain and N.Ireland) only had enough military power to defend it's homeland, nevermind sailing half way round the world.. You today claim the UK took them illegaly, if that were so would the UN be supporting the UK with it? Would the UN be putting sanctions on Argentina if they invaded again? Yes they would.
The islands were taken through British vs French warfare, not illegally.
Finding something doesnt mean you own it or that it belongs to you. Yes they were taken ilegally by you pirates. ''Whole lot of troops'', seriously? LOL. The UN is the UK. thanks.
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Yes, but no NATO country would get involved unless things went bad for the UK.
they're forced to get involved; the whole point of the alliance is to unite against external threats.
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Finding something doesnt mean you own it or that it belongs to you. Yes they were taken ilegally by you pirates. ''Whole lot of troops'', seriously? LOL. The UN is the UK. thanks.
If it were the other way round and Argentina owned the UK you wouldn't think yourselves as 'pirates'..
they're forced to get involved; the whole point of the alliance is to unite against external threats.
No, they can offer assistance, they don't HAVE to. :poke:
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You are known for being pirates, not us
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Actually there is plans, the UK (thought constantly arguing with the EU) and France has nuclear weapons and would use them if Russia did try to take over the whole EU, not to mention the fact that the EU is a potential next super power (though China will probibly take that first) and the US would also join the EU in such 'party' which would leave Russia completely f**ked, unless China decided to join in help Russia in which case it'd be WW3 and everyone better have a bomb shelter in their back garden.
While you just wrote a bunch of bullshit and I'll not even discuss that, I'll tell you something you forgot - no money to afford fighting.
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No, they can offer assistance, they don't HAVE to. :poke:
I can't believe you actually think that, in the VERY unlikely event of Britain getting invaded, other NATO countries wouldn't aid you. Even then I searched around for 2 minutes and found the article 5 of a Washington treaty, apparently the one that founds NATO that explicitly states every member country has to assist fellow members if they get invaded by a foreign threat.
While you just wrote a bunch of bullshit and I'll not even discuss that, I'll tell you something you forgot - no money to afford fighting.
Even if you're right I'm going to ask you to stop derailing the thread further by talking about this hypothetical Russian invasion of Estonia
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Interesting but it has nothing to do with the topic.
I might have worded my statement in a wrong way, but in the end the UK is nothing like Estonia or any country in Eastern Europe.
You first. :skull:
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No, they can offer assistance, they don't HAVE to. :poke:
For god sakes the NATO pact basically starts: that any attack on a member state is considered an attack on the whole alliance.
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For god sakes the NATO pact basically starts: that any attack on a member state is considered an attack on the whole alliance.
Then where was NATO during the falklands war? Yes it did exist then and the UK was a member.
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Then where was NATO during the falklands war?
You moaning now that you werent aided in the war?
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You moaning now that you werent aided in the war?
The UK didn't need aid during the Falklands war, they were winning as soon as they arrived..
What I'm saying is, you're all saying 'NATO has to help other NATO countries during war' but thats not true, they didn't help the UK during the Falklands as no help was needed.
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You were aided..
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not to mention the fact that the EU is a potential next super power
More like next super disaster. EU is going bad economically-wise now.
Also, Russia will never be fucked. Ever heard of the Eurasian Union? Google it.
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You were aided..
No we werent.. The US offered assistance but Thatcher rejected it it because she knew the British could handle it.
More like next super disaster. EU is going bad economically-wise now.
Also, Russia will never be f**ked. Ever heard of the Eurasian Union? Google it.
Of course Russia will never fall, nobody dares to invade or attack them, same with China, they are 2 massive continents with 2 massive populations and military's, unless Russia attacks someone first, they will never be attacked back.
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''In December 1988, former Secretary of the U.S. Navy, John F. Lehman, made the political and military aid provided by the U.S. to Britain during the Falklands War, without which the UK would have been forced to retract the South Atlantic Task Force, according to military experts conclude.''
Also Chile helped you :-)
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I personally believe we'll get the islands in 20, 30, 50 years. Eventually. With no military action taken.
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Actually there is plans, the UK (thought constantly arguing with the EU) and France has nuclear weapons and would use them if Russia did try to take over the whole EU, not to mention the fact that the EU is a potential next super power (though China will probibly take that first) and the US would also join the EU in such 'party' which would leave Russia completely f**ked, unless China decided to join in help Russia in which case it'd be WW3 and everyone better have a bomb shelter in their back garden.
Some countries in Europe are afraid of Russian invasion if the right conditions are met and yes, seriously. In here, Estonia, you can hear stories of Russia being able to occupy the whole country in 4 hours and how NATO doesn't actually have any kind of defensive plans to this regions.
Not to be pedantic, but nobody in power in Russia wants to take over the EU, especially Estonia, the most worthless part of it.
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Not to be pedantic, but nobody in power in Russia wants to take over the EU, especially Estonia, the most worthless part of it.
There is no need to flame people's countries.
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There is no need to flame people's countries.
This is a fact, not a flame. I've been to Estonia and I lived in Estonia at a certain point. There is nothing valuable there and there is no logical reason for Russia to take over.
If you don't believe me, why don't you visit it yourself? They love Americans over there; even their president is an American, a citizen of the US.
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This is a fact, not a flame. I've been to Estonia and I lived in Estonia at a certain point. There is nothing valuable there and there is no logical reason for Russia to take over.
If you don't believe me, why don't you visit it yourself? They love Americans over there, even their president is an American, a citizen of the US.
That doesn't give you the right to flame it...and yes, that is flaming. If you find it economically or socially undesirable, there are better ways to say it than that. Keep the discussion civil. This is a news forum, not a political, all-hands-down fight to the death on who is better.
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That doesn't give you the right to flame it...and yes, that is flaming. If you find it economically or socially undesirable, there are better ways to say it than that. Keep the discussion civil. This is a news forum, not a political, all-hands-down fight to the death on who is better.
Okay. I will personally contact you next time I need your definition of what is a flame and what isn't.
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''In December 1988, former Secretary of the U.S. Navy, John F. Lehman, made the political and military aid provided by the U.S. to Britain during the Falklands War, without which the UK would have been forced to retract the South Atlantic Task Force, according to military experts conclude.''
Also Chile helped you :-)
Nobody helped in WARFARE, but may have helped in transportation, no the UK wouldn't have been 'forced' to leave the South Atlantic without help, because they didn't have any help in the first place, atleast when it came to combat.
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Nobody helped in WARFARE, but may have helped in transportation, no the UK wouldn't have been 'forced' to leave the South Atlantic without help, because they didn't have any help in the first place, atleast when it came to combat.
Of course he's talking about transportation and other help, not warfare. We probably know way more about the actual war than you.
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Of course he's talking about transportation and other help, not warfare. We probably know way more about the actual war than you.
Other than the UK won what is there else to know? :lol:
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Meh, the war was lost from the begining with or without help
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Other than the UK won what is there else to know? :lol:
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Just read that David Crausby y Jean Stroud-Mor sent a request to ask France's help in case of a ''possible war''
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Just read that David Crausby y Jean Stroud-Mor sent a request to ask France's help in case of a ''possible war''
Which side is he on? Never heard of him.. :D
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Which side is he on? Never heard of him.. :D
Who?