British Helmand veterans dispatched to defend Falklands

[Matute]

This is a serious discussion.

I don't think anyone can seriously believe any country in Europe could fear invasion from anyone in the entire world.

Specially from us, giving the fact that we are very good at war and shit

[Mikal]

This is a serious discussion.

I don't think anyone can seriously believe any country in Europe could fear invasion from anyone in the entire world.

Whys that?

Specially from us, giving the fact that we are very good at war and shit

Then why arnt the Falklands Argentina's already?

[Radagast]

Then why arnt the Falklands Argentina's already?

Gotta love when sarcasm is missed.

[Matute]

Oh lord.  :pop:

[Mikal]

Gotta love when sarcasm is missed.

Hard to tell sarcasm when it's written with text and not emotion. :poke:
That or I just need to stop posting at 1am.

[ElMartu]

Whys that?

Surely you could number the reasons better than I do. But between NATO and, in UK's case, being a world military power is enough to stop any foreign country from starting shit.

[Jubin]

This is a serious discussion.

I don't think anyone can seriously believe any country in Europe could fear invasion from anyone in the entire world.

Some countries in Europe are afraid of Russian invasion if the right conditions are met and yes, seriously. In here, Estonia, you can hear stories of Russia being able to occupy the whole country in 4 hours and how NATO doesn't actually have any kind of defensive plans to this regions.

[ElMartu]

Some countries in Europe are afraid of Russian invasion if the right conditions are met and yes, seriously. In here, Estonia, you can hear stories of Russia being able to occupy the whole country in 4 hours and how NATO doesn't actually have any kind of defensive plans to this regions.

Interesting but it has nothing to do with the topic. I might have worded my statement in a wrong way, but in the end the UK is nothing like Estonia or any country in Eastern Europe.

[Matute]

First off, hi Jubin long time no see(I'm Matute).
Second, to Mikal. Maluines(As the French first called them) were occupied by the French(how redundancy), Spain acknowledging this situation, indemnifies them. They later became part of the ''Virreinato del Rio de la Plata'' which after their independence came known as Argentina. First-born islanders were from Argentina(in fact we set the first goverment there), so dont even try to deny that. In 1883(I think) you pirates(british) came to invade the island, and since then you are trying to claim them as yours. Only in 1983 with the militaries(yes we were governed by them) we ''tried'' to send some troops(18 year old with no war experience whatsoever and with 50's weaponry), of course we failed. Islanders there are descendants of british(therefore you say it is ''yours'').
Now that I bring this up(yea, didnt think i'd had to come to this point) what will you say? Defend them from what? We havent sent any army since 1982, fear from who? an unarmed nation? Misslead our nation from what originaly belonged to us?.. give me a break.

[Mikal]

Surely you could number the reasons better than I do. But between NATO and, in UK's case, being a world military power is enough to stop any foreign country from starting shit.

Yes, but no NATO country would get involved unless things went bad for the UK.

First off, hi Jubin long time no see(I'm Matute).
Second, to Mikal. Maluines(As the French first called them) were occupied by the French(how redundancy), Spain acknowledging this situation, indemnifies them. They later became part of the ''Virreinato del Rio de la Plata'' which after their independence came known as Argentina. First-born islanders were from Argentina(in fact we set the first goverment there), so dont even try to deny that. In 1883(I think) you pirates(british) came to invade the island, and since then you are trying to claim them as yours. Only in 1983 with the militaries(yes we were governed by them) we ''tried'' to send some troops(18 year old with no war experience whatsoever and with 50's weaponry), of course we failed. Islanders there are descendants of british(therefore you say it is ''yours'').
Now that I bring this up(yea, didnt think i'd had to come to this point) what will you say? Defend them from what? We havent sent any army since 1982, fear from who? an unarmed nation? Misslead our nation from what originaly belonged to us?.. give me a break.

Still, Britain first found the islands, the French colonised them, Britain found out that their enemy (the French) had done so and decided to remove them, the islands were not taken illegaly but by colonial war of the British and French, you should know that the main empires of the day were British, French and Chinese.

Argentina didn't 'try' to send in some troops, they did send in a whole lot of troops, Argentina took advantage of how the British had been weakened deeply after WW2, I guess it took them until 1883 to actually realised, if Argentina had tried to take the islands right after WW2, the islands might actually belong to Argentina as the UK (Great Britain and N.Ireland) only had enough military power to defend it's homeland, nevermind sailing half way round the world.. You today claim the UK took them illegaly, if that were so would the UN be supporting the UK with it? Would the UN be putting sanctions on Argentina if they invaded again? Yes they would.

The islands were taken through British vs French warfare, not illegally.

Some countries in Europe are afraid of Russian invasion if the right conditions are met and yes, seriously. In here, Estonia, you can hear stories of Russia being able to occupy the whole country in 4 hours and how NATO doesn't actually have any kind of defensive plans to this regions.

Actually there is plans, the UK (thought constantly arguing with the EU) and France has nuclear weapons and would use them if Russia did try to take over the whole EU, not to mention the fact that the EU is a potential next super power (though China will probibly take that first) and the US would also join the EU in such 'party' which would leave Russia completely fucked, unless China decided to join in help Russia in which case it'd be WW3 and everyone better have a bomb shelter in their back garden.

[Jellyfish]

I doubt that China would help out Russia. India (they're also a nuclear power) is Russia's closest ally in that region and they wouldn't dare to do anything that would offend the Americans.

[Mikal]

I doubt that China would help out Russia. India (they're also a nuclear power) is Russia's closest ally in that region and they wouldn't dare to do anything that would offend the Americans.

India's a close ally to the UK, business and military, so I don't think they'd help out Russia, and please.. India can't manage basic road safety nevermind nuclear missiles, not to offend India, but they'll probibly end up blowing themselves up other than anyone else.

[Matute]

Still, Britain first found the islands, the French colonised them, Britain found out that their enemy (the French) had done so and decided to remove them, the islands were not taken illegaly but by colonial war of the British and French, you should know that the main empires of the day were British, French and Chinese.

Argentina didn't 'try' to send in some troops, they did send in a whole lot of troops, Argentina took advantage of how the British had been weakened deeply after WW2, I guess it took them until 1883 to actually realised, if Argentina had tried to take the islands right after WW2, the islands might actually belong to Argentina as the UK (Great Britain and N.Ireland) only had enough military power to defend it's homeland, nevermind sailing half way round the world.. You today claim the UK took them illegaly, if that were so would the UN be supporting the UK with it? Would the UN be putting sanctions on Argentina if they invaded again? Yes they would.

The islands were taken through British vs French warfare, not illegally.

Finding something doesnt mean you own it or that it belongs to you. Yes they were taken ilegally by you pirates. ''Whole lot of troops'', seriously? LOL. The UN is the UK. thanks.

[ElMartu]

Yes, but no NATO country would get involved unless things went bad for the UK.

they're forced to get involved; the whole point of the alliance is to unite against external threats.

[Mikal]

Finding something doesnt mean you own it or that it belongs to you. Yes they were taken ilegally by you pirates. ''Whole lot of troops'', seriously? LOL. The UN is the UK. thanks.

If it were the other way round and Argentina owned the UK you wouldn't think yourselves as 'pirates'..

they're forced to get involved; the whole point of the alliance is to unite against external threats.

No, they can offer assistance, they don't HAVE to. :poke: