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GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Strawberry on January 27, 2013, 03:56:03 am

Title: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 27, 2013, 03:56:03 am
Well, I'm Purple, Ralph_Watson, or my name now: Daniel_Ashton. I've been playing Argonath for the past 6 months now, and I believe it's about time I come clean about this so I can play normally.

I'm a ban evader, some of you may know me as:
Tom Barker, Tom_Koltsov, Tom_Stracci, Massimo Mancini, HiddenSniper, Giovanni_DeRossi, Kevin_Stracci, Paolo_Lombardi, Paolo_Stracci and Rebecca_Black. - Yeah, THAT guy.

I've enjoyed the past 6 months on Argonath, even though I may not be the 'cleanest' player. Anyway, today I recieved a PM ingame. This PM was from [AAF]Conk. He told me that he has recorded evidence from Skype of me ban evading; and threatens to reveal me unless I provide him with my ingame cash. The reason I am posting this topic is because I will not let him use this against me like this. I deem this totally unacceptable and will NOT allow Conk to use this as some little 'blackmail' scheme to humiliate me. I mean, if he was going to alert admins that's fine, but to try to use it against me is just a joke. I figured I'd take my chances and reveal myself before Conk has a chance to.

I'd also like to take this chance to apologise for the people I've shat on in the past, it's about time I grew up and act mature. Not only to apologise, but to thank the people that I've spent time with on Argonath since 2009; you know who you are :)

I understand my current account will be banned, but if Gandalf (or whoever I need to speak to) is okay with it, I'd like a chance to discuss this with you.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Rick. on January 27, 2013, 04:07:20 am
aint nobody got time for this
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Vector on January 27, 2013, 04:12:28 am
Well, I'm Purple, Ralph_Watson, or my name now: Daniel_Ashton. I've been playing Argonath for the past 6 months now, and I believe it's about time I come clean about this so I can play normally.

I'm a ban evader, some of you may know me as:
Tom Barker, Tom_Koltsov, Tom_Stracci, Massimo Mancini, HiddenSniper, Giovanni_DeRossi, Kevin_Stracci, Paolo_Lombardi, Paolo_Stracci and Rebecca_Black. - Yeah, THAT guy.

I've enjoyed the past 6 months on Argonath, even though I may not be the 'cleanest' player. Anyway, today I recieved a PM ingame. This PM was from [AAF]Conk. He told me that he has recorded evidence from Skype of me ban evading; and threatens to reveal me unless I provide him with my ingame cash. The reason I am posting this topic is because I will not let him use this against me like this. I deem this totally unacceptable and will NOT allow Conk to use this as some little 'blackmail' scheme to humiliate me. I mean, if he was going to alert admins that's fine, but to try to use it against me is just a joke. I figured I'd take my chances and reveal myself before Conk has a chance to.

I'd also like to take this chance to apologise for the people I've shat on in the past, it's about time I grew up and act mature. Not only to apologise, but to thank the people that I've spent time with on Argonath since 2009; you know who you are :)

I understand my current account will be banned, but if Gandalf is okay with it, I'd like a chance to discuss this with you.
would that you were not do that. but if you are admiting your mistake because you dont want tobe blackmailed then Gandalf might help you he is a very understandable person but not only gandalf all managers are also very understandable you can contact them and apologize to them the would definatly help you...
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on January 27, 2013, 04:13:07 am
...and threatens to reveal me unless I provide him with my ingame cash.
Do you have proof of this?
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Chuck on January 27, 2013, 04:14:09 am
aint nobody got time for this

How about you show some tact and respect for the person as this is serious matter.

There's no need to show everyone how rude and apathetic you are.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: darksword31 on January 27, 2013, 04:16:06 am
It's good to come clean. I was reading the part about the "ingame cash".... quite phenomenal. And as Sugar said, having proof will make the matter much more easier to understand
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Vector on January 27, 2013, 04:18:11 am



i think he should have the screen shots of the giving money in game
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on January 27, 2013, 04:20:59 am
i think he should have the screen shots of it.
You quoted the wrong person. I didn't say that. :P
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Vector on January 27, 2013, 04:22:32 am
lol my fault sorry
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on January 27, 2013, 04:23:31 am
lol my fault sorry
lol np
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Vector on January 27, 2013, 04:26:06 am
if my qoute is bothering you then i could remove my qoute ... do you have?lol
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Rick. on January 27, 2013, 04:30:38 am
How about you show some tact and respect for the person as this is serious matter.

There's no need to show everyone how rude and apathetic you are.
If he was to be sorry, he would have done it before being blackmailed.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Chuck on January 27, 2013, 04:48:17 am
If he was to be sorry, he would have done it before being blackmailed.

However, there is no need to give your senseless provocations. You are nobody to tell him whether or not the actions he had taken were right or wrong.

Learn to back-up your premises with validity instead of rambling on with your useless talk.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on January 27, 2013, 04:55:41 am
There is no need to turn this into an argument.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: MikeSangelo on January 27, 2013, 05:23:22 am
I applaud you for admitting your faults.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Juan_Cervantes on January 27, 2013, 05:30:26 am
Hey Strawberry,

My utmost respect to you for admitting that you're ban-evading. I'm very sure that Gandalf and the rest of the community is willing to give you another chance. Wish you all the best!
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Pingster on January 27, 2013, 05:47:26 am
Don't see what everyone's so happy about, a guy was given an ultimatum, be blackmailed or be outed. Sooner or later he'd be outed anyway, so he just made it faster all the while trying to earn some "street cred". It's not like he went "Yeah, okay, I've been banevading, I figured it's a very bad thing to do, so I've decided to stop.".

I mean, it's cool he did this, but to go as far as to say that it deserves applause and utmost respect... Meh, you need to work harder to earn respect, banevading doesn't earn it.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Karmps. on January 27, 2013, 07:57:08 am
I applaud you for admitting your faults.
Indeed, not many do this.But in Argonath even admitting it will get you banned, no matter if you hacked or ban evaded.But it'll be easier and faster for you to get unbanned once you should get a ban for breaking the rule(s).
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Rick. on January 27, 2013, 08:40:47 am
However, there is no need to give your senseless provocations. You are nobody to tell him whether or not the actions he had taken were right or wrong.

Learn to back-up your premises with validity instead of rambling on with your useless talk.

I have an opinion, and have the right to say it. Now, could you piss off a bit? You are in no way a moderator on these forums, and DO NOT have the right to tell me what I can and What I can not do.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on January 27, 2013, 08:46:22 am
Quit the arguing. This is not a place to fight.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Huntsman on January 27, 2013, 09:31:36 am
You did a great thing by admitting instead of falling into somoenes blackmail . But i really hope that you have the evidence to back up that accusation otherwise the community members here will just bash you in pieces in no time.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: MrFrancis on January 27, 2013, 09:42:28 am
I applaud you for admitting your faults.
Applaud the guy Conk for making him admit his fault...
He would've never admitted it if it weren't for Conk giving him this kind of situation.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: eymas on January 27, 2013, 10:03:00 am
Good part; You've admitted your faults
Bad part; Someone wants to use this to get himself more money in-game

Both should be banned in my opinion for this,
Dont take it harsh but even though you've admitted you can still be banned for the charge.
Yet about Conk blackmailing you to report this evidence to HQ unless you give him money in-game. That's what REALLY annoys me.

No one should EVER take advantage of another's trouble for in-game items.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on January 27, 2013, 10:13:26 am
Applaud the guy Conk for making him admit his fault...
He would've never admitted it if it weren't for Conk giving him this kind of situation.
Blackmailing someone for IG cash and hiding information like that from admins is not something to applaud a player for.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Zaila on January 27, 2013, 10:19:16 am
Please PM me the time when this player did /pm you and tried to blackmail you.

Ban evading or not, blackmailing players in order to get ingame cash on it is not tolerated at all.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Conk on January 27, 2013, 12:21:47 pm
What the fuck are you doing?!

You said you had 4k and I told you to give it to me. I was joking!

Post Merge: January 27, 2013, 12:25:54 pm
Also, I haven't already reported you because I have no evidence, I didn't record skype, I couldn't

Post Merge: January 27, 2013, 12:32:07 pm
[00:40:45] PM to Daniel_Ashton(39): how much money do you have?

[00:41:08] PM from Daniel_Ashton(39): 4k

[00:41:12] PM to Daniel_Ashton(39): I want it

[00:41:20] PM from Daniel_Ashton(39): u rich

[00:41:27] PM to Daniel_Ashton(39): and? i want all your money

[00:41:35] PM from Daniel_Ashton(39): NO

[00:41:40] PM to Daniel_Ashton(39): you got no choice

[00:41:45] PM to Daniel_Ashton(39): I got shit on you, remember?

[00:41:50] PM from Daniel_Ashton(39): RU BLACKMAILING ME

[00:42:21] PM to Daniel_Ashton(39): yes

[00:42:25] PM from Daniel_Ashton(39): ok




Yes it looks like blackmail, but if you notice the "4k" part, you will work out that I was joking. Me and Daniel (were) friends and I still considered that when I sent these PMs.

The reason I hadn't already reported him is because I didn't have a skype recording, and no evidence.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Clone on January 27, 2013, 12:35:29 pm
What the f**k are you doing?!

You said you had 4k and I told you to give it to me. I was joking!

Post Merge: January 27, 2013, 12:25:54 pm
Also, I haven't already reported you because I have no evidence, I didn't record skype, I couldn't
Although I don't have proof of this, you've PMed me countless times stating that you 'have shit on Daniel' ever since being in that Skype call. Also I saw yesterday someone had said on main chat 'iBanEvader' to which you replied 'Where's Daniel? he should be saying that'. Obviously what Daniel did isn't an allowed thing to do, but for you to use that to provoke him like that instead of either reporting him or just keeping quiet isn't acceptable in my books.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Conk on January 27, 2013, 12:41:06 pm
Although I don't have proof of this, you've PMed me countless times stating that you 'have shit on Daniel' ever since being in that Skype call. Also I saw yesterday someone had said on main chat 'iBanEvader' to which you replied 'Where's Daniel? he should be saying that'. Obviously what Daniel did isn't an allowed thing to do, but for you to use that to provoke him like that instead of either reporting him or just keeping quiet isn't acceptable in my books.

Keeping quiet isn't acceptable, but I couldn't come out either. Like I said, I have no proof.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Grizz on January 27, 2013, 12:42:49 pm
Daniel or whoever you're known as now, props for coming clean about this it takes a ture kind-hearted spirit to admit ban-evading on this level but if you came clean earlier your punishment might not have been as severe as it is now. To be honest I don't really understand why you ban-evaded in the first place it's not that hard to make a simple unban request?

As for Conk, it's easy to falsify logs; try to find a different form of evidence or have a manager/developer check the server logs and that should clear this misconception up, even if it's 4k it iwll still be considered scamming and is not taken as a joke and is punishable by all accounts (no pun intended).
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 27, 2013, 12:47:33 pm
Keeping quiet isn't acceptable, but I couldn't come out either. Like I said, I have no proof.
If you couldn't prove anything, it was very silly of you to go through with it.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Conk on January 27, 2013, 12:57:06 pm
I have no other evidence, only managers have logs.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Drix on January 27, 2013, 01:31:01 pm
I've lost may friends on Argonath because they required support when they have been ban-evading on argonath and i reported them no matter how close we were, if your friend on Argonath tells you that he's hacking, or ban evading and asks you to not tell it to anyone, and even invites you to hack. He's not your friend his just a community enemie who requires allies and to be honest if he ends up bad, you end up with him. Now for knowing he's ban evading and not alerting the admins, you might get on trouble because you actually supported someone on rule breaking.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 27, 2013, 01:48:03 pm
If he was to be sorry, he would have done it before being blackmailed.

I've recently been waiting for Gandalf to come online MSN to speak to him about this, before being blackmailed; but I decided I have to do it sooner when this situation happened. Either way, I'm a ban evader and have to deal with the consequences.

Me and Daniel (were) friends and I still considered that when I sent these PMs.
The reason I hadn't already reported him is because I didn't have a skype recording, and no evidence.

>Me and Daniel (were) friends
>The reason I hadn't already reported him is because I didn't have a skype recording

Here we have established that we were never friends.



Okay guys, let's not make this a "let's bash conk" topic. Although maybe administrative action should be taken, this topic is about me and my ban evading only.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Conk on January 27, 2013, 01:57:57 pm
If I had no evidence, I don't feel that I can report somebody.

Waiting for Gandalf? For how many years?..

Post Merge: January 27, 2013, 02:00:32 pm
P.S: Don't forget to add all of them hacks, to the ban evading.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Chuck on January 27, 2013, 02:02:42 pm
If I had no evidence, I don't feel that I can report somebody.

Waiting for Gandalf? For how many years?..

Post Merge: January 27, 2013, 02:00:32 pm
P.S: Don't forget to add all of them hacks, to the ban evading.

There's no need for you to provoke him now, it still hasn't been proven that you weren't blackmailing him.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 27, 2013, 02:14:35 pm
If I had no evidence, I don't feel that I can report somebody.

Waiting for Gandalf? For how many years?..

Post Merge: January 27, 2013, 02:00:32 pm
P.S: Don't forget to add all of them hacks, to the ban evading.

Hacks?

Also, I haven't logged into my MSN for a few years. I logged into eBuddy every few days to see if Gandalf was online, but only a few days ago I merged my Skype and MSN together. That's why I haven't contacted him sooner; as I was trying to contact him since 3 weeks ago.



There's no need for you to provoke him now, it still hasn't been proven that you weren't blackmailing him.

Conk's own chatlog proven it already. Constantly when I log in, he also says "I got shit on u", and after the PM he said in /p "I would like to share a Skype recording with the community" when I said no to him.

For admins: ‎27 ‎January ‎2013, ‏‎00:42 GMT
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 27, 2013, 02:45:04 pm
Oooh 6 months.. :lol:

Conk what the fuck man..
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: ClazzyJogel on January 27, 2013, 02:55:25 pm
And I tought it was almost impossible to get away with banevading?
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 27, 2013, 02:56:41 pm
During the 2 years, I changed ISP and moved house.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Duel on January 27, 2013, 03:14:17 pm
I'm sure I know a "Paolo_Stracci" from somewhere..  :trust:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Hugo. on January 27, 2013, 03:17:53 pm
I'm sure I know a "Paolo_Stracci" from somewhere..  :trust:

Maybe you are mixing up Paolo_Stracci with Paolo_Ancelotti, just like I did.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Duel on January 27, 2013, 03:20:23 pm
Maybe you are mixing up Paolo_Stracci with Paolo_Ancelotti, just like I did.
Noo.. This guy had a name by "Kevin" or something..  :trust:

EDIT: Yes I know you, got you on Facebook.  :lol:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 27, 2013, 03:28:39 pm
Noo.. This guy had a name by "Kevin" or something..  :trust:

EDIT: Yes I know you, got you on Facebook.  :lol:

Yeah, I was a Capo in Stracci.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Ted on January 27, 2013, 03:47:58 pm
And I tought it was almost impossible to get away with banevading?

It is you either get caught by us or by your own conscience.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 27, 2013, 04:26:38 pm
It is you either get caught by us or by your own conscience.

It's also hard seeing people you know but you can't tell them who you are.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JDC on January 27, 2013, 04:49:40 pm
This is one more reason why I never believed the "f**k ALL ARGONATH AND ADMINS I LEAVE THIS COMMUNITY FOREVER" posts from you and the other regulars. Despite my loathing for your actions (especially on Facebook where you went on a shitting spree against the community some time back), I expected this scenario to be one of the possible outcomes. And so, it was.

Now I wonder again how many of the regulars here are old friends under new names, with their pride too high for them to admit their past mistakes in this community and how they are here despite promising to leave. I applaud you for being able to lower yours. :devroll:

Welcome back.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 27, 2013, 05:01:40 pm
Thanks JDC, but unfortunately I'm not back; as I haven't been unbanned as that's up for the managers to decide.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on January 27, 2013, 08:15:30 pm
If I had no evidence, I don't feel that I can report somebody.

Waiting for Gandalf? For how many years?..

P.S: Don't forget to add all of them hacks, to the ban evading.
If you have no evidence of him ban evading, then why accusing him of hacking if you also have no evidence? If you know something, you should be reporting it.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Ben. on January 27, 2013, 08:47:49 pm
Kevin_Stracci...from Argonath World Records?
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 27, 2013, 08:52:41 pm
Kevin_Stracci...from Argonath World Records?

I think I was part of AWR, as I knew Toxic.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Ben. on January 27, 2013, 08:56:02 pm
Then ohai!
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 27, 2013, 09:10:16 pm
Then ohai!

hi hi :D
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Kirgiz on January 27, 2013, 09:14:24 pm
I've lost may friends on Argonath because they required support when they have been ban-evading on argonath and i reported them no matter how close we were, if your friend on Argonath tells you that he's hacking, or ban evading and asks you to not tell it to anyone, and even invites you to hack. He's not your friend his just a community enemie who requires allies and to be honest if he ends up bad, you end up with him. Now for knowing he's ban evading and not alerting the admins, you might get on trouble because you actually supported someone on rule breaking.
I'm sorry and no offense, but you won't have my respect for being a snitch.

Would you sell out your friend to the cops if you found out he's doing drugs?
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 28, 2013, 01:51:25 am
I'm sorry and no offense, but you won't have my respect for being a snitch.

Would you sell out your friend to the cops if you found out he's doing drugs?
IG friends and IRL friends are different.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on January 28, 2013, 02:43:24 am
IG friends and IRL friends are different.
No they aren't. They are people either way. If you treat them differently or keep them separate, that is your own choice, but that doesn't mean they aren't friends.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: KhornateMonkey on January 28, 2013, 02:57:55 am
IG friends and IRL friends are different.

To me, the people in =AV= are real life friends. I talk to them everyday, not just via Argonath. Some are even like Brothers.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Kessu on January 28, 2013, 03:30:52 am
Would you sell out your friend to the cops if you found out he's doing drugs?
Yes.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Radagast on January 28, 2013, 04:30:48 am
To me, the people in =AV= are real life friends. I talk to them everyday, not just via Argonath. Some are even like Brothers.
:banana: :hurray: :pop:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Marcel on January 28, 2013, 06:04:20 am
 
To me, the people in =AV= are real life friends. I talk to them everyday, not just via Argonath. Some are even like Brothers.
:hurray: :banana: :drunk:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Rapper on January 28, 2013, 09:30:37 am
Yeah. If you see i too made 2 acc and the one got banned. I got a proof xD!. Look when my profile is registered and when my acc is. XD. Dont ban me anyways, 2 years passed. :P
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: MrFrancis on January 28, 2013, 12:05:28 pm
Blackmailing someone for IG cash and hiding information like that from admins is not something to applaud a player for.
So is ban evading. What would happen if Conk didn't blackmail him? Damage has been done. Though he could've told an admin about it instead of blackmailing him. Good that he didn't go with Conk's blackmail, but a case like ban evading should never take place in the first place.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 28, 2013, 02:20:31 pm
All the posts in this topic make ban evaders seem like good guys.. :lol:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Devin on January 28, 2013, 04:10:49 pm
All the posts in this topic make ban evaders seem like good guys.. :lol:

Ok DriverGuy.  :neutral:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Salmonella on January 28, 2013, 04:40:01 pm
Yo Giovanni, I wondered what happened to you.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 28, 2013, 07:46:43 pm
Yo Giovanni, I wondered what happened to you.

hi :)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Kirgiz on January 28, 2013, 08:00:37 pm
Yes.
Then I am afraid you will have tough luck in the future. World isn't just black and white but with the shades of gray..Just don't ever get surprised if, in the end, all you will have by your side is yourself. Maybe later you'll realize.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: TheRock on January 29, 2013, 02:56:46 am
I'd also like to take this chance to apologise for the people I've shat on in the past, it's about time I grew up and act mature. Not only to apologise, but to thank the people that I've spent time with on Argonath since 2009; you know who you are :)

People do change, but also, we do not forget... You know and I'm sure you remember quite good what you've done back then..
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Matt Murdock on January 29, 2013, 04:22:42 am
Oh, so you were Rebecca Black. I'm amazed you picked a sunday and not a friday to get down with the truth. :wow:

So is ban evading. What would happen if Conk didn't blackmail him? Damage has been done. Though he could've told an admin about it instead of blackmailing him. Good that he didn't go with Conk's blackmail, but a case like ban evading should never take place in the first place.
On another note, no one is arguing about that, but what both did is wrong, and both should be banned/punished for that. Ofcourse, this can be sorted out later, in unban requests.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 29, 2013, 11:56:01 am
both should be banned/punished for that

Action   Reason      Admin      Date   
Panelban   Ban evading.   TeaM_Axis   January 27 2013

People do change, but also, we do not forget... You know and I'm sure you remember quite good what you've done back then..

Hopefully it's not "We do not forgive. We do not forget." :p I do remember what I did back then, and it was stupid.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 29, 2013, 01:51:50 pm
Ok DriverGuy.  :neutral:
Oh you!

I only ban evaded for 4 or 5 years before coming to my senses and admitting, is that so wrong? :cry:

 :ps: fucboi u no talk smak on me coz u dm irl i see u and call 999 !! :mad:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: AK47 on January 29, 2013, 01:58:02 pm
I only ban evaded for 4 or 5 years before coming to my senses and admitting, is that so wrong? :cry:

4-5 years?  :wow:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 29, 2013, 04:03:27 pm
4-5 years?  :wow:
Well I joined in 2008.. So 4 years 3 months but that was all sorted last year so no worries. :lol:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Kessu on January 29, 2013, 04:05:04 pm
Then I am afraid you will have tough luck in the future. World isn't just black and white but with the shades of gray..Just don't ever get surprised if, in the end, all you will have by your side is yourself. Maybe later you'll realize.
Only time will tell.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: dutchownage on January 29, 2013, 04:12:04 pm
You can write the saddest story in the world about how ConK was trying to blackmail you (He should get punished for that as well though.) but that doesn't change a thing about your ban evading.

Fact is that if ConK hadn't blackmailed you, you'd still be ban evading now. Don't pretend like you're such a great guy who wanted to share this emotional story with the community. BS.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 29, 2013, 04:16:57 pm
You can write the saddest story in the world about how ConK was trying to blackmail you (He should get punished for that as well though.) but that doesn't change a thing about your ban evading.

Fact is that if ConK hadn't blackmailed you, you'd still be ban evading now. Don't pretend like you're such a great guy who wanted to share this emotional story with the community. BS.
Dats some Dutch ownage right there..

It is true though, if he didn't try to blackmail you (even though it was only for 4k :lol:) you would still be ban evading.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 29, 2013, 05:10:05 pm
You can write the saddest story in the world about how ConK was trying to blackmail you (He should get punished for that as well though.) but that doesn't change a thing about your ban evading.

Fact is that if ConK hadn't blackmailed you, you'd still be ban evading now. Don't pretend like you're such a great guy who wanted to share this emotional story with the community. BS.

Actually, I've been waiting for Gandalf to come on MSN as to speak to him about this; it's because of the blackmail I decided to make this topic and announce it publicly. I'm aware of the fact I ban evaded; and I've never claimed that I should get any kind of special privileges for getting blackmailed. It's what you have perceived from other people.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Kirgiz on January 29, 2013, 08:47:46 pm
Why do you seriously give a shit he was ban evading? He doesn't do it now, because he had the balls to say it in public. How often did you see someone publicly claiming he's ban evading?
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: [WS]Jacob on January 29, 2013, 10:12:47 pm
How often did you see someone publicly claiming he's ban evading?
Quite a lot in the SAMP unban request section.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Nexxt on January 29, 2013, 10:21:42 pm
I've got to admit that this powers up my respect for this individual, even though I've known him for all the time I play Argonath and he haven't been nice at all times (or actually, it was an exception if he was nice :P). But Kevin grew up and became more mature and came into a position, where he could split the realistic world from the bullshit world (yeah, bullshit mostly came from you :P).

I think it would be good to give him a fair chance to show himself on a proper way, which he is doing now. Everyone was young and everyone did stupid things, I bet he is able to show that he changed in a good way.

Therefor, even though I have no input in this on any way, I think he should be given a new chance. Pssst, I got blackmailed to post this post for 500K!  :redface: (just kidding  :lol:)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on January 30, 2013, 02:55:55 pm
I've got to admit that this powers up my respect for this individual, even though I've known him for all the time I play Argonath and he haven't been nice at all times (or actually, it was an exception if he was nice :P). But Kevin grew up and became more mature and came into a position, where he could split the realistic world from the bullshit world (yeah, bullshit mostly came from you :P).

I think it would be good to give him a fair chance to show himself on a proper way, which he is doing now. Everyone was young and everyone did stupid things, I bet he is able to show that he changed in a good way.

Therefor, even though I have no input in this on any way, I think he should be given a new chance. Pssst, I got blackmailed to post this post for 500K!  :redface: (just kidding  :lol:)

Thanks bud :)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Kirgiz on January 30, 2013, 06:12:14 pm
Quite a lot in the SAMP unban request section.
Most I've seen are after they're re-banned again, for another reason.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Duel on January 31, 2013, 11:15:13 am
Don't pretend like you're such a great guy who wanted to share this emotional story with the community. BS.
He might not be a great guy, but he has the balls to admit his mistakes, and is now waiting for an unban.
Think you should take the time to see that he is apologising and accept it, if you don't agree with me, then at least just give him a good luck.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 31, 2013, 03:10:12 pm
He might not be a great guy, but he has the balls to admit his mistakes, and is now waiting for an unban.
Only after being forced into it with the chance of being told on by Conk.. :roll:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Duel on January 31, 2013, 04:14:05 pm
Only after being forced into it with the chance of being told on by Conk.. :roll:
Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

But, if you where in this situation you would have done the same thing.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 31, 2013, 04:20:24 pm
Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

But, if you where in this situation you would have done the same thing.
No, I'de just /q and make a new account which Conk didn't know, but my ban evading days are behind me. :roll:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Duel on January 31, 2013, 07:33:17 pm
No, I'de just /q and make a new account which Conk didn't know, but my ban evading days are behind me. :roll:
Now that proves who's the good guy.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 31, 2013, 08:02:00 pm
Now that proves who's the good guy.
I ban evaded for 4 years and admitted without anyone having to bribe me, what do you have to say to that? :roll:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Devin on January 31, 2013, 08:03:48 pm
I ban evaded for 4 years and admitted without anyone having to bribe me, what do you have to say to that? :roll:

Guilty conscience got to you after those 4 years.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 31, 2013, 08:04:19 pm
Guilty conscience got to you after those 4 years.
Yes. :razz:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Huntsman on January 31, 2013, 08:11:35 pm
Omg u so kewl u been evading for 4 years! Not..
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on January 31, 2013, 09:10:46 pm
It is you either get caught by us or by your own conscience.
I've never got caught on the account I ban evade on, been playing it everytime I have gotten banned :)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Devin on January 31, 2013, 09:51:37 pm
I've never got caught on the account I ban evade on, been playing it everytime I have gotten banned :)

Good to know you're such a loyal player even though you're unable to abide by some simple rules.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on January 31, 2013, 10:18:53 pm
Quote
You don't buy respect online by giving little implied love symbols.
MadBoi <3
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on January 31, 2013, 10:45:56 pm
Good to know you're such a loyal player even though you're unable to abide by some simple rules.
I always say the truth when I get banned, the last few times I've gotten banned I havn't done anything close to the ban reason, yet I get banned :)
But one thing that always works on Argonath, admit something that you didn't do will always get you unbanned, because the admins thinks they can't be wrong, sadly.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Antonio. on January 31, 2013, 10:51:32 pm
I think I remember you PMing me one day in game saying "I'm Paolo, don't tell any one". I'm not sure if I even replied, but I didn't even know who you were. You're that guy that annoyed me in Facebook, right? :razz:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Devin on January 31, 2013, 10:52:11 pm
Then why are you still here if the admins are, what you would call "stubborn"?  :lol:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on January 31, 2013, 11:25:53 pm
Then why are you still here if the admins are, what you would call "stubborn"?  :lol:
Because I enjoy laughing playing here when I have the chance, and be with friends. I really dont give a shit about what the admins decisions, as long as I know what I did was not against any rule, I only enjoying laughing at their reasons to punish me, and other people. Not to mention every extra thing they add when they figure out that a punishment shouldnt be as harsh as it was. :)

Moral of my little story: Dont care about what the admins think or do, as long as I enjoy playing here.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Kirgiz on January 31, 2013, 11:35:00 pm

Moral of my little story: Dont care about what the admins think or do, as long as I enjoy playing here.
Balls to you!  :alc:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: AK47 on January 31, 2013, 11:43:20 pm
Balls to you!  :alc:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Duel on February 01, 2013, 09:32:11 am
I've never got caught on the account I ban evade on, been playing it everytime I have gotten banned :)
So you behave on the 'ban evading' account, but not on your original account?
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Strawberry on February 01, 2013, 01:51:35 pm
I think I remember you PMing me one day in game saying "I'm Paolo, don't tell any one". I'm not sure if I even replied, but I didn't even know who you were. You're that guy that annoyed me in Facebook, right? :razz:

Wrong ID probably :p
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on February 01, 2013, 03:17:43 pm
So you behave on the 'ban evading' account, but not on your original account?
:lol:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on February 01, 2013, 03:47:34 pm
So you behave on the 'ban evading' account, but not on your original account?
I do exactly the same things on both accounts, act the same and say the same I would do on my banned account, just on this one I dont get punished :)
I wonder why.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on February 01, 2013, 05:56:48 pm
I do exactly the same things on both accounts, act the same and say the same I would do on my banned account, just on this one I dont get punished :)
I wonder why.
Admitting to ban evading and multi-accounting just now was probably not a wise idea.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Devin on February 01, 2013, 06:02:39 pm
It's not like he cares whether he gets busted or not.  :lol:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on February 01, 2013, 07:55:49 pm
Admitting to ban evading and multi-accounting just now was probably not a wise idea.
Its not like really care about it, nobody knows which account I play on, not which country I use my VPN from. Wont be able to bust me as long as I dont admit anything.
It's not like he cares whether he gets busted or not.  :lol:
This.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Marcel on February 01, 2013, 07:59:09 pm
Its not like really care about it, nobody knows which account I play on, not which country I use my VPN from.

That crappy VPN? I do, so kindly stop the big man words, okay?
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on February 01, 2013, 08:09:30 pm
That crappy VPN? I do, so kindly stop the big man words, okay?
Do you really think I used the same VPN I use ig as on TS? Thats one of the shittiest VPNs I've ever used my good sir :) I'm not really that stupid that I stay on TS when I wanna go on my ban evading account, with the name Jack White and my unique ID. Try again, boss.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on February 01, 2013, 10:33:21 pm
Do you really think I used the same VPN I use ig as on TS? Thats one of the shittiest VPNs I've ever used my good sir :) I'm not really that stupid that I stay on TS when I wanna go on my ban evading account, with the name Jack White and my unique ID. Try again, boss.
I hope you know it's pretty easy to find out who's using a VPN just by looking at the hostname. ;)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on February 01, 2013, 10:52:53 pm
I hope you know it's pretty easy to find out who's using a VPN just by looking at the hostname. ;)
Funny I havnt been caught the last year if its so easy to catch someone ;)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on February 01, 2013, 10:58:21 pm
Funny I havnt been caught the last year if its so easy to catch someone ;)
How do you know you haven't? ;)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on February 01, 2013, 11:00:30 pm
How do you know you haven't? ;)
Because I've been ingame since I came home from school today. No admin has talked to me about any VPN usage at all since I registred this account.
And if you wanna try, I am not using the VPN when I am on the forums, I stay on the forums on another PC, on my phone internet.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Antonio. on February 01, 2013, 11:10:19 pm
(http://i46.tinypic.com/vgmy36.jpg)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on February 01, 2013, 11:12:41 pm
Because I've been ingame since I came home from school today. No admin has talked to me about any VPN usage at all since I registred this account.
And if you wanna try, I am not using the VPN when I am on the forums, I stay on the forums on another PC, on my phone internet.
Doesn't mean they don't know about you. ;)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on February 01, 2013, 11:38:39 pm
Doesn't mean they don't know about you. ;)
If they knew I was ban evading they would ban me :)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/vgmy36.jpg)
No need to teach you how to be a badass, you are already a internet badass :)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Mikal on February 02, 2013, 01:36:22 am
(http://t.qkme.me/363j4f.jpg)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Antonio. on February 02, 2013, 02:00:03 am
No need to teach you how to be a badass, you are already a internet badass :)
Thank you for the kind words. :)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: AK47 on February 02, 2013, 02:13:33 am

 :rofl:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Zorex116 on February 02, 2013, 02:24:49 am
I've got to admit that this powers up my respect for this individual, even though I've known him for all the time I play Argonath and he haven't been nice at all times (or actually, it was an exception if he was nice :P). But Kevin grew up and became more mature and came into a position, where he could split the realistic world from the bullshit world (yeah, bullshit mostly came from you :P).

I think it would be good to give him a fair chance to show himself on a proper way, which he is doing now. Everyone was young and everyone did stupid things, I bet he is able to show that he changed in a good way.

Therefor, even though I have no input in this on any way, I think he should be given a new chance. Pssst, I got blackmailed to post this post for 500K!  :redface: (just kidding  :lol:)

Lawl Nexxt at your avatar,you play Club Penguin? xD
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on February 02, 2013, 05:17:45 am
If they knew I was ban evading they would ban me :)
You so sure about that? Sometimes they let some of them go for a time so they can make sure the ban is well-fitted for such individuals. ;)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on February 02, 2013, 09:41:32 am
You so sure about that? Sometimes they let some of them go for a time so they can make sure the ban is well-fitted for such individuals. ;)
Great, I will be waiting :)

Thank you for the kind words. :)
Anytime mate  :cool:
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Kirgiz on February 02, 2013, 11:23:14 am
You so sure about that? Sometimes they let some of them go for a time so they can make sure the ban is well-fitted for such individuals. ;)
You so sure about that? It's highly unlikely, they ban everyone who ban evades.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: SugarD on February 02, 2013, 12:19:20 pm
You so sure about that? It's highly unlikely, they ban everyone who ban evades.
When they have enough info to, yes. Sometimes they purposely hold off so they can block a user completely. Our admin teams are smarter than people think. ;)
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Duel on February 02, 2013, 12:21:19 pm
He shouldn't be unbanned until he admits what account he is ban evading on, imo.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Duel on February 02, 2013, 03:46:59 pm
sugard f**k off
Disgusting.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: Conk on February 02, 2013, 03:53:01 pm
I think this topic requires a lock. The player has been banned, and it has turned into something it wasn't intended for.
Title: Re: The truth
Post by: JackWhite on February 02, 2013, 04:08:14 pm
He shouldn't be unbanned until he admits what account he is ban evading on, imo.
Will it help? :) I will just play on the account I am ban evading on then..lol
When they have enough info to, yes. Sometimes they purposely hold off so they can block a user completely. Our admin teams are smarter than people think. ;)
At least you believe so.
sugard f**k off
Lol
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