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Argonath RPG Community => Hardware/Software support => Resolved issues => Topic started by: Mikal on February 19, 2013, 05:38:45 pm

Title: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Mikal on February 19, 2013, 05:38:45 pm: I bought a new pre-built 'gaming computer', it puts the default WoT setting all on high which looks epic by the way.. But I only get round 9 fps and 20 fps on low settings, as I said the default settings it gives me is high so I assume, WoT assumes my computer is good enough to run all on high, but as I said I only get 9fps.. Can someone tell me why? Heres my computers specs.

AMD Bulldozer FX 4100 Quad Core Processor / CPU running at 4.0Ghz
16GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM
AMD / ATi HD 6450 Graphics Card With HUGE 2GB Dedicated DDR3 Graphics Memory
1TB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
24x DVD-RW Optical Disc Drive
MSI 760GM-P21-(FX) uATX Motherboard
500W Power Supply with large 120mm fan

Thanks. ;)
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Devin on February 19, 2013, 05:41:34 pm: Defragmented your PC recently? Installed latest graphics drivers? removed unnecessary files?
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Everett on February 19, 2013, 05:44:33 pm: Frame limiter on? You should be getting 100 fps, not 9.
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Janar on February 19, 2013, 05:47:19 pm: Make sure you got newest graphics drivers installed.
If you got, open AMD Control Center, edit the gaming quality settings. When I set mine to higher, I got FPS in some very basic games like SA:MP. Now I set them to minimum, no lag at all.

Also, that graphics card seems weak next to such CPU.
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Mikal on February 19, 2013, 05:59:11 pm: Thanks for the fast replies guys.

Quote from: Devin on February 19, 2013, 05:41:34 pm
Defragmented your PC recently? Installed latest graphics drivers? removed unnecessary files?
Brand new, just finished installing Windows 7 and the drivers off the disc that came with the PC.

Quote from: Everett on February 19, 2013, 05:44:33 pm
Frame limiter on? You should be getting 100 fps, not 9.
Can't seem to find any frame limiter on WoT. :razz:

Quote from: Janar on February 19, 2013, 05:47:19 pm
Make sure you got newest graphics drivers installed.
If you got, open AMD Control Center, edit the gaming quality settings. When I set mine to higher, I got FPS in some very basic games like SA:MP. Now I set them to minimum, no lag at all.

Also, that graphics card seems weak next to such CPU.
Well I installed all the drivers off the CD that came with the computer, I think anyway..
I have an 'AMD VISION Engine Control Center' that allows me to change various settings but I haven't really played with them at the moment, you say my graphics card is weak? I mean I was told the PC is good specifically for running games and such so I assumed it would be a pretty decent one.

Thanks again guys. ;)

Edit: Heres the settings it gives me when I use 'Auto-Detect'..
(http://i.imgur.com/i0r49LR.jpg)
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: ElMartu on February 19, 2013, 07:07:02 pm: Well it's not a really good computer, but it should be able to handle world of tanks better than that
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Mikal on February 19, 2013, 07:31:51 pm: Quote from: ElMartu on February 19, 2013, 07:07:02 pm
Well it's not a really good computer, but it should be able to handle world of tanks better than that
It's an awesome computer, the graphics card is the problem, been talking to people out of Argonath.. :roll:
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: ElMartu on February 19, 2013, 07:45:13 pm: if you say so :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Mikal on February 19, 2013, 07:55:57 pm: Quote from: ElMartu on February 19, 2013, 07:45:13 pm
if you say so :) :) :) :) :)
I do say so.. Just had 20 different people tell me. :roll:
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: LoHi on February 20, 2013, 03:46:09 pm: Quote from: Mikal on February 19, 2013, 07:55:57 pm
I do say so.. Just had 20 different people tell me. :roll:

I'll be honest: that computer sucks.

Bulldozers are much, much worse than the Intel ones in the same price category.
Graphics cards usually use GDDR5 memory, not DDR3, which is slower. You got fooled.
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Mikal on February 20, 2013, 11:57:08 pm: Quote from: LoHi on February 20, 2013, 03:46:09 pm

I'll be honest: that computer sucks.

Bulldozers are much, much worse than the Intel ones in the same price category.
Graphics cards usually use GDDR5 memory, not DDR3, which is slower. You got fooled.
Or you just have a lack of knowledge when it comes to computers, I've shown my uncle my computers specs, he said the computer is overkill, just the graphics card sucks, and he's been building computers all his life.. Anyway he suggested what graphics card I should get and I've ordered it.
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Devin on February 21, 2013, 12:14:04 pm: Building computers and keeping up to date with the latest parts and quality parts are another story.
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Mikal on February 21, 2013, 06:46:16 pm: Quote from: Devin on February 21, 2013, 12:14:04 pm
Building computers and keeping up to date with the latest parts and quality parts are another story.
I plan on building my own, when I get a proper job. :lol:
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Batta on February 22, 2013, 10:25:22 pm: I met this problem twice. Both times when I reinstalled windows.. what I did was editing the WoT process priority every time I started the game. That fixed the problem and after some times it doesn't need to be done anymore!
Quote from: Mikal on February 19, 2013, 05:38:45 pm
HUGE 2GB [...] DDR3

Boss ;)
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Julio. on February 23, 2013, 10:09:37 pm: Quote from: LoHi on February 20, 2013, 03:46:09 pm

I'll be honest: that computer sucks.

Bulldozers are much, much worse than the Intel ones in the same price category.
Graphics cards usually use GDDR5 memory, not DDR3, which is slower. You got fooled.

In my opinion this post is laughably incorrect.

AMD is notoriously good at building chips to a price range, so for a budget gaming PC, the 4100 is perfect.

As for your obviously hopelessly misinformed post about the main issue being the DDR3 memory, I link you to this page: http://www.hwcompare.com/13543/geforce-gtx-280-vs-geforce-gtx-650/ (http://www.hwcompare.com/13543/geforce-gtx-280-vs-geforce-gtx-650/) which actually shows you that the type of memory is not the only issue.
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Mikal on February 24, 2013, 02:33:12 am: My problems are solved, my uncle fitted a GTX 650, computer is now the bets one I've ever had..
Graphics on everything are epic, large FPS, everyone who said this computer sucks can go suck a fish. ;)
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: LoHi on February 25, 2013, 11:56:52 am: Quote from: joedaman633 on February 23, 2013, 10:09:37 pm
In my opinion this post is laughably incorrect.

AMD is notoriously good at building chips to a price range, so for a budget gaming PC, the 4100 is perfect.

As for your obviously hopelessly misinformed post about the main issue being the DDR3 memory, I link you to this page: http://www.hwcompare.com/13543/geforce-gtx-280-vs-geforce-gtx-650/ (http://www.hwcompare.com/13543/geforce-gtx-280-vs-geforce-gtx-650/) which actually shows you that the type of memory is not the only issue.

See http://www.extremetech.com/computing/100583-analyzing-bulldozers-scaling-single-thread-performance (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/100583-analyzing-bulldozers-scaling-single-thread-performance) and http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/whats-the-difference-between-ddr3-memory-and-gddr5-memory.186408/ (http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/whats-the-difference-between-ddr3-memory-and-gddr5-memory.186408/)
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Mikal on February 25, 2013, 09:04:25 pm: Quote from: LoHi on February 25, 2013, 11:56:52 am

See http://www.extremetech.com/computing/100583-analyzing-bulldozers-scaling-single-thread-performance (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/100583-analyzing-bulldozers-scaling-single-thread-performance) and http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/whats-the-difference-between-ddr3-memory-and-gddr5-memory.186408/ (http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/whats-the-difference-between-ddr3-memory-and-gddr5-memory.186408/)
Who cares.. IMO the one I'm running now is just awesome..
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Julio. on February 25, 2013, 10:06:06 pm: Quote from: LoHi on February 25, 2013, 11:56:52 am

See http://www.extremetech.com/computing/100583-analyzing-bulldozers-scaling-single-thread-performance (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/100583-analyzing-bulldozers-scaling-single-thread-performance) and http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/whats-the-difference-between-ddr3-memory-and-gddr5-memory.186408/ (http://www.techspot.com/community/topics/whats-the-difference-between-ddr3-memory-and-gddr5-memory.186408/)

I repeat, the GDDR3 and GDDR5, though the GDDR5 is better, yes, that's not the ONLY aspect of how good a card is......
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: LoHi on February 25, 2013, 10:56:14 pm: Quote from: joedaman633 on February 25, 2013, 10:06:06 pm
I repeat, the GDDR3 and GDDR5, though the GDDR5 is better, yes, that's not the ONLY aspect of how good a card is......

Yes, you are correct, but do note that the card has NOTABLY slower memory, but is cheaper, and is advertised as 'good', which is very much a scam.
Title: Re: WoT FPS lagg
Post by: Luke on February 25, 2013, 11:03:23 pm: I used to have, a ATI Radeon 5450 1GB GDDR3

this was okay, but i could only play at 1366x768, Low FX, as this card was only built for gaming without many shadows as i worked out when trying to play games like Modern Warfare and San Andreas at High/Very High

I now have a ASUS ATI Radeon 6670 1GB GDDR5,

there is a massive differences as now i can play GTA SA all maxed out, for example 1366x768, FX: very High and Anti Analising at 3, also now i can play gta iv, and many of the cods at medium to high, i cant wait to get a Quad core the game would be so much better FPS, but my personal opinion is GDDR3 Dont cut it for me anymore its always going to be GDDR5.