Argonath RPG - A World of its own
GTA:SA => SA:MP - San Andreas Multiplayer => SA:MP General => Topic started by: Teddy on April 29, 2013, 11:18:03 am
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Hello Boys and Ladies,
I'm here to remind you about password security. Before you think, this isn't important... lets look at some fun facts.
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These passwords are easy to guess. We store your password in an encryption, yet a simple fraction of a second to find all of these passwords by using a common dictionary of common passwords.
So here is a friendly reminder to everyone...
- Passwords should be at least 8 characters long
- Passwords shouldn't contain your username, realname, company name, server name, relatives names.
- Passwords shouldn't contain a complete word.
- Passwords should have sustainable differences between other passwords.
- Passwords should contain at least one capital letter, one numerical character, and one symbol.
- Passwords shouldn't contain any numerical order
- Passwords shouldn't contain any personal information (License ids, gov't ids, country name, state name, town name etc.)
Thank you.
Have a nice day.
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To add to this, here is a useful post McGarrett put in the LU boards back in December 2011. It seems to apply here very well also:
How can I secure my password?
It has been proven situations in Argonath RPG where the account of another player has been used illegally. So, how can you secure your password without even worrying about getting hacked? Basically that is almost impossible. You can secure it heavily. Your computers password is on the top of the ladder. It is extremely hard to hack. I will make a few examples.
NOTE: The pictures proves how fast it'll take before somebody hacks into your desktop.
Ex 1:
The password written used here "I<3u".
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab86/mansenmann/ex1copy.png)
This is a password which is extremely easy to hit.
Ex 2:
The password written in is "9f!dXx58906".
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab86/mansenmann/ex2.png)
This is a password that is extremely secured. Would be almost impossible to hack
Note that it is around 80 percent harder to hit a desktop than your account in Argonath. So, I decided to make a mathematic form for this.
I will put the example of length in this form.
(http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab86/mansenmann/formm.png)
So, if you want your account secured, please follow the instructions.
- You need a password longer than 10 characters.
- Do not have a password that consider real life stuff. Inc, mydog2
- You must have a random password that doesn't consider anything from in real life. Ex. "gFz6l75dgG53d"
- I fully recommend you to use different passwords wherever you register.
- If you use a easy password(That consider real life and/or characters that is no longer than 10), Change IT!
If you want to check your passwords strenght. Please check out this page (http://howsecureismypassword.net/)
Here are some websites that also list the most commonly used passwords out there. If your's is on these lists, I HIGHLY recommend you change it right away:
http://www.whatsmypass.com/the-top-500-worst-passwords-of-all-time (http://www.whatsmypass.com/the-top-500-worst-passwords-of-all-time)
http://www.openwall.com/passwords/wordlists/password-2011.lst (http://www.openwall.com/passwords/wordlists/password-2011.lst)
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Idea: remind new users of these instructions before they register a new account.
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Great idea Marcel. :D
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157 registered SA:MP accounts have the password <removed>.
:poke:
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I always use 'incorrect' as password, so whenever I type a wrong password, it says: 'Your password is incorrect'.
:)
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I always use 'incorrect' as password, so whenever I type a wrong password, it says: 'Your password is incorrect'.
:)
From what was that quote? I forgot.
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And yet, I still didn't knew if my password was <removed> or smth... :/
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My password has Argonath in it, is that good? :lol:
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I guess ... mine is ok? It would take a desktop PC about
5 octillion years
to crack your password
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I always use 'incorrect' as password, so whenever I type a wrong password, it says: 'Your password is incorrect'.
And now you have to change it because you told us. ;)
My password has Argonath in it, is that good? :lol:
Now that you told us? No. :P
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What about my girlfriends name? :roll:
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What about my girlfriends name? :roll:
Don't use any names.
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My password has Argonath in it, is that good? :lol:
Man you sick,use a password "ArgonathRPG" like me and hackers won't annoy you...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Man you sick,use a password "ArgonathRPG" like me and hackers won't annoy you...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
...As you get hacked within minutes of posting your password.
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...As you get hacked within minutes of posting your password.
...As if he would actually post the password he uses.
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...As if he would actually post the password he uses.
You would be surprised. I've had people post it, PM it, and type it in public chat across multiple Argo servers, and they still don't change it afterwards.
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If they're foolish enough to publicize their passwords, they have bought it upon themselves if their account becomes compromised.
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If they're foolish enough to publicize their passwords, they have bought it upon themselves if their account becomes compromised.
Doesn't mean we should allow it to continue.
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Doesn't mean we should allow it to continue.
So what? /ban everyone that wants to type it in /p for example? That's stupid.
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So what? /ban everyone that wants to type it in /p for example? That's stupid.
Who said anything about banning? I was referring to force-resetting their passwords.
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Transform letters into numbers and symbols, think of a long word and mix up the letters with numbers and symbols
such as:
Iloveargonathrpg
How it should be:
1l0v34|2g0n47h|2pg
To add:
There are A LOT of ways to do this. Makes the password impossible to hack.
Oh and, NEVER put random symbols and numbers as your password, you will quickly forget it.
If you ever place one like the above, make sure it makes sense so you can remember it :)
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What about my girlfriends name? :roll:
Imaginary or real? :trust:
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Imaginary or real? :trust:
You sir, made my day. :rofl:
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If I combine all the password that I remember in my head, and do several variations of it, and also cut passwords in half, and combine them at random with each other. I think I could get a password that's 200 characters long, with all sorts of characters intermingled in it (A-Ö, a-ö, 0-9, And all special characters like !?*#" and so on), which I could remember without having to write the whole thing down (check bottom to see what I do write down to remember it correctly).
However, no password is the ultimate answer. The point is defeated if you leave your computer unprotected and susceptible to Trojans, viruses and key loggers. So make a habit of having a decent anti-virus and anti-spyware software on your computer (and firewall ofc). And also check your sources correctly before you install things.
You should also encrypt your data.
As for how I remember the order in which passwords I used and how I cut them and mixed them together to make these long ones, I just write the first letter of each password on a paper. That way, you give nothing significant away incase you loose the paper.
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If I combine all the password that I remember in my head, and do several variations of it, and also cut passwords in half, and combine them at random with each other. I think I could get a password that's 200 characters long, with all sorts of characters intermingled in it (A-Ö, a-ö, 0-9, And all special characters like !?*#" and so on), which I could remember without having to write the whole thing down (check bottom to see what I do write down to remember it correctly).
However, no password is the ultimate answer. The point is defeated if you leave your computer unprotected and susceptible to Trojans, viruses and key loggers. So make a habit of having a decent anti-virus and anti-spyware software on your computer (and firewall ofc). And also check your sources correctly before you install things.
You should also encrypt your data.
As for how I remember the order in which passwords I used and how I cut them and mixed them together to make these long ones, I just write the first letter of each password on a paper. That way, you give nothing significant away incase you loose the paper.
Now that you have explained it, however, someone can get the piece of paper and figure it out :P
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sir, my name is =KOs=Sam and i am banned and my route is blocked also please Unban me
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sir, my name is =KOs=Sam and i am banned and my route is blocked also please Unban me
Please post an unban request in the appropriate board, and don't bump topics asking people to unban you.
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Now that you have explained it, however, someone can get the piece of paper and figure it out :P
How? They will only know that I use the first letter at every part where I use one of the passwords:
!64A*?:.B43abc
56ABCaaBB?!?!
*!?!#"75ABba87*..!*#"?
Now let's say that I wanted to use them in this order:
*!?!#"[]!64A*?:.B43abc[]56ABCaaBB?!?![]*!?!#"75ABba87*..!*#"? (ignore the brackets)
Then I would just write down this in order:
* ! 5 *
WHat does that tell you SugarD?
Yes, it does mean that you have the first letter of all of my passwords that I Used to form this string of text. but what then?
You still have (as for this example) 51 letters. Do you know how many combinations that is using a standard keyboard?
I removed all the first letters and tried the password on that website, this is the result:
987 sesvigintillion years.
Sorry, but it's not happening anytime soon. The only way they will break it in a reasonable time (avarage hacker with avarage equipment) is keylogger. But if they have all my passwords, and just need to figure out the order, then yes this would be insecure, that is if they have the post it note or whatever I used and writed down the pattern on.
Solution: I use another pattern different from what I showed as an example.
Problem solved! :girl:
(No, those are not my passwords. So don't bother trying your luck guys).
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How? They will only know that I use the first letter at every part where I use one of the passwords:
!64A*?:.B43abc
56ABCaaBB?!?!
*!?!#"75ABba87*..!*#"?
Now let's say that I wanted to use them in this order:
*!?!#"[]!64A*?:.B43abc[]56ABCaaBB?!?![]*!?!#"75ABba87*..!*#"? (ignore the brackets)
Then I would just write down this in order:
* ! 5 *
WHat does that tell you SugarD?
Yes, it does mean that you have the first letter of all of my passwords that I Used to form this string of text. but what then?
You still have (as for this example) 51 letters. Do you know how many combinations that is using a standard keyboard?
I removed all the first letters and tried the password on that website, this is the result:
987 sesvigintillion years.
Sorry, but it's not happening anytime soon. The only way they will break it in a reasonable time (avarage hacker with avarage equipment) is keylogger. But if they have all my passwords, and just need to figure out the order, then yes this would be insecure, that is if they have the post it note or whatever I used and writed down the pattern on.
Solution: I use another pattern different from what I showed as an example.
Problem solved! :girl:
(No, those are not my passwords. So don't bother trying your luck guys).
You're missing the point, though. You still don't want to explain how you do things with your own password. That only encourages others to also, which leads to their passwords being easier to crack or guess. ;)
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My passwords are all in my head, just hope I don't get hit by a bus anytime soon and get massive memory loss. =))))
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Dump Security Measures... 4 random generated word easy to hard to be decrypted, a word full of special characters and etc hard to remember easy to be cracked..
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My passwords are all in my head, just hope I don't get hit by a bus anytime soon and get massive memory loss. =))))
In the not-so-distant future, we might have technology that can extract data from human brains. Then someone might knock you out and extract your passwords from your brain.
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