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Reply #15 on: April 30, 2013, 11:17:09 am
...As you get hacked within minutes of posting your password.

...As if he would actually post the password he uses.



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Reply #16 on: April 30, 2013, 11:31:53 am
...As if he would actually post the password he uses.
You would be surprised. I've had people post it, PM it, and type it in public chat across multiple Argo servers, and they still don't change it afterwards.



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Reply #17 on: April 30, 2013, 11:39:17 am
If they're foolish enough to publicize their passwords, they have bought it upon themselves if their account becomes compromised.



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Reply #18 on: April 30, 2013, 11:40:01 am
If they're foolish enough to publicize their passwords, they have bought it upon themselves if their account becomes compromised.
Doesn't mean we should allow it to continue.



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Reply #19 on: April 30, 2013, 11:55:16 am
Doesn't mean we should allow it to continue.

So what? /ban everyone that wants to type it in /p for example? That's stupid.

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Reply #20 on: April 30, 2013, 12:04:23 pm
So what? /ban everyone that wants to type it in /p for example? That's stupid.
Who said anything about banning? I was referring to force-resetting their passwords.



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Reply #21 on: April 30, 2013, 12:05:55 pm
Transform letters into numbers and symbols, think of a long word and mix up the letters with numbers and symbols
such as:
Iloveargonathrpg
How it should be:
1l0v34|2g0n47h|2pg

To add:
There are A LOT of ways to do this. Makes the password impossible to hack.
Oh and, NEVER put random symbols and numbers as your password, you will quickly forget it.
If you ever place one like the above, make sure it makes sense so you can remember it :)



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Reply #22 on: April 30, 2013, 12:11:54 pm
What about my girlfriends name?  :roll:
Imaginary or real? :trust:

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Reply #23 on: April 30, 2013, 12:18:46 pm
Imaginary or real? :trust:
You sir, made my day.  :rofl:



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Reply #24 on: May 01, 2013, 02:40:58 am
If I combine all the password that I remember in my head, and do several variations of it, and also cut passwords in half, and combine them at random with each other. I think I could get a password that's 200 characters long, with all sorts of characters intermingled in it (A-Ö, a-ö, 0-9, And all special characters like !?*#" and so on), which I could remember without having to write the whole thing down (check bottom to see what I do write down to remember it correctly).

However, no password is the ultimate answer. The point is defeated if you leave your computer unprotected and susceptible to Trojans, viruses and key loggers. So make a habit of having a decent anti-virus and anti-spyware software on your computer (and firewall ofc). And also check your sources correctly before you install things.

You should also encrypt your data.

As for how I remember the order in which passwords I used and how I cut them and mixed them together to make these long ones, I just write the first letter of each password on a paper. That way, you give nothing significant away incase you loose the paper.


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Reply #25 on: May 01, 2013, 03:58:23 am
If I combine all the password that I remember in my head, and do several variations of it, and also cut passwords in half, and combine them at random with each other. I think I could get a password that's 200 characters long, with all sorts of characters intermingled in it (A-Ö, a-ö, 0-9, And all special characters like !?*#" and so on), which I could remember without having to write the whole thing down (check bottom to see what I do write down to remember it correctly).

However, no password is the ultimate answer. The point is defeated if you leave your computer unprotected and susceptible to Trojans, viruses and key loggers. So make a habit of having a decent anti-virus and anti-spyware software on your computer (and firewall ofc). And also check your sources correctly before you install things.

You should also encrypt your data.

As for how I remember the order in which passwords I used and how I cut them and mixed them together to make these long ones, I just write the first letter of each password on a paper. That way, you give nothing significant away incase you loose the paper.
Now that you have explained it, however, someone can get the piece of paper and figure it out :P



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Reply #26 on: May 01, 2013, 06:11:48 am
sir, my name is =KOs=Sam and i am banned and my route is blocked also please Unban me

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Reply #27 on: May 01, 2013, 06:21:52 am
sir, my name is =KOs=Sam and i am banned and my route is blocked also please Unban me
Please post an unban request in the appropriate board, and don't bump topics asking people to unban you.



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Reply #28 on: May 01, 2013, 07:20:46 am
Now that you have explained it, however, someone can get the piece of paper and figure it out :P

How? They will only know that I use the first letter at every part where I use one of the passwords:

!64A*?:.B43abc
56ABCaaBB?!?!
*!?!#"75ABba87*..!*#"?

Now let's say that I wanted to use them in this order:

*!?!#"[]!64A*?:.B43abc[]56ABCaaBB?!?![]*!?!#"75ABba87*..!*#"?   (ignore the brackets)

Then I would just write down this in order:

* ! 5 *

WHat does that tell you SugarD?

Yes, it does mean that you have the first letter of all of my passwords that I Used to form this string of text. but what then?
You still have (as for this example) 51 letters. Do you know how many combinations that is using a standard keyboard?

I removed all the first letters and tried the password on that website, this is the result:

987 sesvigintillion years.

Sorry, but it's not happening anytime soon. The only way they will break it in a reasonable time (avarage hacker with avarage equipment) is keylogger. But if they have all my passwords, and just need to figure out the order, then yes this would be insecure, that is if they have the post it note or whatever I used and writed down the pattern on.

Solution: I use another pattern different from what I showed as an example.

Problem solved!  :girl:

(No, those are not my passwords. So don't bother trying your luck guys).


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Reply #29 on: May 01, 2013, 08:06:06 am
How? They will only know that I use the first letter at every part where I use one of the passwords:

!64A*?:.B43abc
56ABCaaBB?!?!
*!?!#"75ABba87*..!*#"?

Now let's say that I wanted to use them in this order:

*!?!#"[]!64A*?:.B43abc[]56ABCaaBB?!?![]*!?!#"75ABba87*..!*#"?   (ignore the brackets)

Then I would just write down this in order:

* ! 5 *

WHat does that tell you SugarD?

Yes, it does mean that you have the first letter of all of my passwords that I Used to form this string of text. but what then?
You still have (as for this example) 51 letters. Do you know how many combinations that is using a standard keyboard?

I removed all the first letters and tried the password on that website, this is the result:

987 sesvigintillion years.

Sorry, but it's not happening anytime soon. The only way they will break it in a reasonable time (avarage hacker with avarage equipment) is keylogger. But if they have all my passwords, and just need to figure out the order, then yes this would be insecure, that is if they have the post it note or whatever I used and writed down the pattern on.

Solution: I use another pattern different from what I showed as an example.

Problem solved!  :girl:

(No, those are not my passwords. So don't bother trying your luck guys).

You're missing the point, though. You still don't want to explain how you do things with your own password. That only encourages others to also, which leads to their passwords being easier to crack or guess. ;)



 


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