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Title: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Mikal on September 02, 2013, 10:52:04 pm
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Antiq Hennis, one, was shot in the face as gunfire rang out in the Brownsville area of Brooklyn at 19:20 on Sunday evening (23:20 GMT).

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said the target had been the boy's father.

The boy's parents went with him to hospital where he was declared dead from a gunshot wound to the left side of his face.

Witness Gina Gamboa, 23, told the New York Post: "I heard three to four shots.

"I saw a man with a stroller screaming: 'My baby got shot! My baby got shot!' He was going crazy."

A flyer bearing an image of Antiq Hennis outside apartments in Brownsville, Brooklyn
The gunfire left four bullet casings on the corner and bullet holes in the pushchair, Commissioner Kelly told reporters on Monday.

"We have some leads, and those leads are being aggressively followed," he said.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the killing was "a tragedy for his family, for this community, for the entire city".

City Councilman Charles Barron told the New York Daily News: "The child didn't even get a chance to start his life, and now it's over."

It is not the first time this year that a baby in a pushchair has been shot dead in the US.

On Friday, an 18-year-old man in the state of Georgia was convicted of murdering 13-month-old Antonio Santiago after the child's mother refused to hand over her purse.

New York's Brooklyn area has gentrified in recent years, becoming a cultural heartland of "cool", as Manhattan's high living costs drove hip, young trendsetters across the East River.

But the borough's eastern Brownsville district, home to some of the highest concentration of public housing in the US, has a reputation as one of the city's most dangerous neighbourhoods.
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Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: [WS]Jacob on September 02, 2013, 11:39:59 pm
Not even begun his life...
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Ehks on September 02, 2013, 11:45:18 pm
For whatever reason.. Who the hell will harm an innocent baby... That's sick.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: AK47 on September 02, 2013, 11:51:24 pm
'merica.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: clancker on September 02, 2013, 11:55:19 pm
This is when you give guns to people that are total idiots
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Mikal on September 03, 2013, 12:40:02 am
For whatever reason.. Who the hell will harm an innocent baby... That's sick.
Probably wasn't intended to hit the baby, but still did, some jack ass..

'merica.
Aha.

This is when you give guns to people that are total idiots
No no, thats what happens when a WHOLE FREAKING COUNTRY (Well union in the USA's case) is allowed to get hold of guns like a pint of milk from the corner shop.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: TiMoN on September 03, 2013, 02:13:30 am
What kind of a filthy human being would murder a child that isn't even capable of walking. Some people does not even the title of a domestic animal.
May the kid rest in God's hand.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on September 03, 2013, 03:05:01 am
But how did this happen?? I thought NY has the most restrictive gun control laws in the whole country?????????

 
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Exterminator on September 03, 2013, 05:11:35 am
'merica.

Today in the newspaper(India) i read that some guy broke into a family's house, stole the baby and threw him into the chulha(A kind of a stove).
Turns out, he was the mother's dad. Didnt approve of the marriage..

PS: He got away with it too...
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: EliteTerm on September 03, 2013, 05:33:32 am
Today in the newspaper(India) i read that some guy broke into a family's house, stole the baby and threw him into the chulha(A kind of a stove).
Turns out, he was the mother's dad. Didnt approve of the marriage..

PS: He got away with it too...

...'dia?


Seriously, this whole 'murica stereotype should stop every time something tragic happens. What about the hatchet guys in the UK, or the Cumbria shootings, or the Norwegian extremist? Should we stereotype stuffs that happens over there as well?


It's all fun and games until something tragic happens, and that is when we stop and think about it.... not make fun of it.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Ron271 on September 03, 2013, 05:52:12 am
What about the hatchet guys in the UK, or the Cumbria shootings, or the Norwegian extremist? Should we stereotype stuffs that happens over there as well?
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Hamza. on September 03, 2013, 07:28:23 am
That's tragic, really.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: eymas on September 03, 2013, 10:22:42 am
That's tragic, really.
& Pathetic.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Aca on September 03, 2013, 03:27:41 pm
Seriously, this whole 'murica stereotype should stop every time something tragic happens.

No. It's the truth.

'merica.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on September 03, 2013, 04:10:10 pm
Seriously, this whole 'murica stereotype should stop every time something tragic happens. What about the hatchet guys in the UK, or the Cumbria shootings, or the Norwegian extremist? Should we stereotype stuffs that happens over there as well?


It's all fun and games until something tragic happens, and that is when we stop and think about it.... not make fun of it.
The stereotype will go on as long as guns are so easy to come by. (Probably will never end).
You mentioned shootings like Norway. Guns are not easy to get in Norway. He prepared the attack intensely. Also are you seriously comparing hatchets to automatic assault rifles, pistols and so on? lol.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Zlatan on September 03, 2013, 04:11:16 pm
'Murica
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Gmail on September 03, 2013, 04:19:31 pm
No. It's the truth.

'merica.
OKAY! now shut the living f**k up! so the f**king goverment is at fault that somebody went f**king inssane and shot A BABY!? OH LOOK A BABY WAS SHOT! LETS BLAME AMERICANS! well guess what, jihad bombers are muslims, f**k SERBIA, f**k BALKAN! JIHADS! .... SO f**k OFF WITH 'MURICA BULLSHIT!

Freedom of speech indeed.. But relax, because the more f**k you use, the further you will be to a warning.. -Traser
-Yeah I'm sorry bout that.. I may or may not gone insane that a baby got shot..
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Aca on September 03, 2013, 04:26:14 pm
OKAY! now shut the living f**k up! so the f**king goverment is at fault that somebody went f**king inssane and shot A BABY!? OH LOOK A BABY WAS SHOT! LETS BLAME AMERICANS! well guess what, jihad bombers are muslims, f**k SERBIA, f**k BALKAN! JIHADS! .... SO f**k OFF WITH 'MURICA BULLSHIT!

lol
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Zlatan on September 03, 2013, 04:28:59 pm
OKAY! now shut the living f**k up! so the f**king goverment is at fault that somebody went f**king inssane and shot A BABY!? OH LOOK A BABY WAS SHOT! LETS BLAME AMERICANS! well guess what, jihad bombers are muslims, f**k SERBIA, f**k BALKAN! JIHADS! .... SO f**k OFF WITH 'MURICA BULLSHIT!
That was a polite reply.


'Murrica.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Bundy on September 03, 2013, 04:48:52 pm
I feel truly sorry for the parents of the baby and the baby himself, the murderer should get life imprisonment, but let's be honest..


Hundreds of babies daily get killed in Syria but nobody gives a fuck, now one baby gets murdered in New York and everybody loses his mind... Like, come on.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Aca on September 03, 2013, 05:02:30 pm

Hundreds of babies daily get killed in Syria but nobody gives a f**k, now one baby gets murdered in New York and everybody loses his mind... Like, come on.

My prayers go to Syria's and Pakistanian people <3
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Senate on September 03, 2013, 05:04:05 pm
The stereotype will go on as long as guns are so easy to come by. (Probably will never end).
You mentioned shootings like Norway. Guns are not easy to get in Norway. He prepared the attack intensely. Also are you seriously comparing hatchets to automatic assault rifles, pistols and so on? lol.

Your logic contradicts itself. "Guns are not easy to get in Norway" yet it still happened. "The stereotype will go on as long as guns are so easy to come by." If guns are so hard to get in Norway then how did something so tragic happen? Surely banning guns in the US will stop gun crime outright.

Tragedy's like this one will continue to occur regardless of how easy guns are to obtain. There will always be guns, and criminals will always find a way to get one. Making guns harder to get only hurts law abiding citizens who keep arms to defend themselves and their family's. Look at Chicago and New York, the two cities with the strictest gun laws have the highest gun crimes in the nation, why? Because criminals know that they are much less likely to encounter resistance when carrying out crimes in these "gun free zones".

I don't blame anyone on this forum for their opinions or views you are all entitled to believe what you wish, most countries have flat out bans on any types of firearms which most of you are accustomed  to and raised to believe is for the better good. Americans take much pride in their Constitution and Bill of Rights. I am a proud and responsible owner of several firearms, and I carry a firearm on my person day in and day out. If anyone posting 1 word replies like 'Murrica would like to contribute some real facts or arguments supporting their opinions please do elaborate.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on September 03, 2013, 05:09:07 pm
Your logic contradicts itself. "Guns are not easy to get in Norway" yet it still happened. "The stereotype will go on as long as guns are so easy to come by." If guns are so hard to get in Norway then how did something so tragic happen? Surely banning guns in the US will stop gun crime outright.
What?
"Yet it still happened".
Yes, guns are not easy at all to come by in Norway, but it's not impossible.
Breivik didn't just go to a store to get his weaponry. He planned it a long time ahead to have the tools necessary.
The American stereotype when someone gets killed will always go on because everyone knows it's easy to get lethal weaponry.
And no, banning guns will not stop gun crime. It's way too late for that.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Zlatan on September 03, 2013, 05:09:31 pm
I feel truly sorry for the parents of the baby and the baby himself, the murderer should get life imprisonment, but let's be honest..


Hundreds of babies daily get killed in Syria but nobody gives a f**k, now one baby gets murdered in New York and everybody loses his mind... Like, come on.
I agree with you... But... yah kno'.... 'Murrica.... Responsible for killing MILLIONS, yet its so dearly beloved by brainwashed people, having such a nice government and all.. :)
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: [SE]Dr_Pepper27 on September 03, 2013, 06:11:31 pm
What?
"Yet it still happened".
Yes, guns are not easy at all to come by in Norway, but it's not impossible.
Breivik didn't just go to a store to get his weaponry. He planned it a long time ahead to have the tools necessary.
The American stereotype when someone gets killed will always go on because everyone knows it's easy to get lethal weaponry.
And no, banning guns will not stop gun crime. It's way too late for that.
Answer me this:

If America bans ALL guns and destroys EVERY legal gun out there, do you really think guns will be hard to come by?

 Any average idiot with money can get an illegal gun VERY easily in America. You know why this is? We have a lot of street gangs, cartels, even mafias. Other countries do not have nearly the amount of gangs we do. We can't stop the gangs and therefore can't stop the drug trade nor the gun trade. Until you realize America is FAR different than any other country, your points will always be invalid.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on September 03, 2013, 06:14:12 pm
Answer me this:

If America bans ALL guns and destroys EVERY legal gun out there, do you really think guns will be hard to come by?
No, not at all.

It's way too late for that.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Antonio. on September 03, 2013, 06:22:42 pm
Until you realize America is FAR different than any other country, your points will always be invalid.
This.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Dolfagr on September 04, 2013, 06:22:58 pm
That's what happens when monkeys like this perpetrator, (not because of their color but because of their behavior), are allowed to roam freely and end a life at any moment for no reason.

Though thinking twice, monkeys don't deserve to be put in the same sack with human beings.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Exterminator on September 04, 2013, 07:01:30 pm
That's what happens when monkeys like this perpetrator, (not because of their color but because of their behavior), are allowed to roam freely and end a life at any moment for no reason.

Though thinking twice, monkeys don't deserve to be put in the same sack with human beings.

Actually, there is no real way to define such a 'monkey'.
Psychology has proved that given the right circumstances, you could of also shot that baby in the face.

The big thing that people need to understand is that it is not the personality of the man but the environment.
This is contributed to a lot of factors, from his parents to his friends to his High school experience. The treating from the surrounding, and even the temperature.
He didnt just wake up one day with murder on his mind, it attributed into him a long while.

You can look up 'Just world fallacy', 'Fundamental Attribution Error' to learn about it furthur if you want.
Some StanFord scientists took students with absolutely no history of violence or even noted angry behaviour and converted them into people who are too dangerous to be let out. How? They put em into a fake prison.
The guards(one group of the students) became more and more abusive, so much as strip searching their 'prisoners'.
The inmates barricaded doors, beat up guards and they had to end the experiment over fears that someone might get killed. This was just 1 week in.

Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Mr. Goobii on September 05, 2013, 09:41:53 pm
At least it was a child. Greatful that it wasn't someone who had been living his life yet. :-(
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Antonio. on September 05, 2013, 09:46:42 pm
At least it was a child. Greatful that it wasn't someone who had been living his life yet. :-(
Yeah, great way to put it.
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Mikal on September 05, 2013, 10:58:58 pm
At least it was a child. Greatful that it wasn't someone who had been living his life yet. :-(
Thats an oddly understandable way of putting it actually. =\
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Ratko Gavrilovic on September 06, 2013, 02:57:56 pm
Well... what if it would be a great man later in life inventing revolutionary things?
Title: Re: Baby in pushchair shot dead in Brooklyn, New York
Post by: Exterminator on September 06, 2013, 03:49:05 pm
Well... what if it would be a great man later in life inventing revolutionary things?

Or a man who grew to political power and a conflict leading to many people's death and suffering.

That argument really is on the super low end of the scale, given statistics, my hypothesis is actually much more likely.
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