Where did all the roleplay go?

[Adam.]

JDC Stole my signature?!?! 

Yea honest mistake :S.

[JDC]

Why can you not bring a post without acting like a stuck up dickhead?

A better question is why you cannot accept how your viewpoint is heavily distorted and sadly wrong, instead of seeing your opponent as a stuck up dickhead.

Because like I said, you randomly state things that do not even relate to what I said.

If you do not understand the concept of a rebuttal case, then you have much to learn.

I did never claim, do not claim and still do not think about saying that RP is dead, because I still do find some.

Do not think about saying that RP is dead? Somehow, I find that hard to believe.

Roleplay is not dead [yet], however the wires of RP go through 1-2 fourth of all players, the rest is occupied by new people that are not being advised and/or being helped, just random people to deathmatch and eventually f**k around and administrators.And I sure as hell can affirm you that the last two groups are the reason that RP is actually decreasing.

You still have not given a concrete answer. If you see the community as a place where RP only goes downward and where random deathmatchers and administrators continue to bring down roleplay to extremely low levels, why are you still here?

From all your complaints about this community, it seems that you would be better off somewhere else. Only idiots would waste their time and energy in a place where they see overwhelmingly more negatives than positives.

I don't feel like being hustled off this community by a clueless asshole who wouldn't give a damn dog's ass if this community had closed down

No one said you have to hustle yourself off this community, you can leave voluntarily if you want.

You cannot believe that both are right, these two are merely speaking against each other.

Funny how people think Giac and I are speaking against each other.

Anyone who has a proper capacity for reading would see that I am implicitly supporting his posts, since there is no need to rebut someone whose case you support, unless you have major logic problems.

The point of this topic is to hopefully encourage you guys to explore RP some more. This server isn't all about pew pew criminals pew pew cops, get money get power get wealth get respect, it's about roleplaying.

Make it happen.

Normally, I would feel rage whenever posting against this level of bigotry on part of the person I am rebutting. However, now, I cannot help but feel sorry for Emre, seeing how lost and deluded you have become in such a heavily distorted worldview.

But then again, people who shit on the community and admins have come and gone, so I see no more reason to feel any remorse for your loss. No one else threw your lot in with those people but yourself, the key hallmark being your identification of those who actually stand up for this community with assholes, dickheads, and cunts.

This  (Emre), Argonath (especially new players), is one kind of player you should not take an example from. Argonath is, was, and always will be home to many wonderful opportunities for roleplay, or else we would not be standing six years strong. We in the administration will see to it that it remains as such.

A world of its own.

[Gandalf]

Or you can make rules for specific terms and insulting..

We already have them.

[rJCaiG]

I don't know why this topic is still going. It's diverted about 180degrees from the point I was originally trying to make.

I did not state that nobody at all roleplayed. If I will say it in terms you can all understand, I was moaning about a few shit situations.
I do not believe that this entire server has lost its ability to roleplay - so, how about we all stop being dramatic and exaggerating my words.

Giac is right, JDC is right..  Sorry but I'm starting to think IC/OOC should be enforced in this server. Because every time somebody would like to initialize a roleplay situation, the other party makes excuses such as IC and OOC do not exist in Argonath - This is just my opinion.

I also do believe in new players' and some veterans' potential of creating a wonderful RP situation.

I literally cannot comprehend how you got from my post that I want IC/OOC. IC/OOC does not increase any RP in any situation in any case for any reason, so I will never support it, ever. No matter how bad the RP was to get, no matter anything.

How could you connect Giac and JDC being right/enforcing IC/OOC rules. Just how!?

:roll:

In any case, I would like to request topic be locked. It's gone way too far off topic and I think anything from this point on would just be repeating points stated earlier in the topic.

[Emre]

A better question is why you cannot accept how your viewpoint is heavily distorted and sadly wrong, instead of seeing your opponent as a stuck up dickhead.

See, you're distracting

If you do not understand the concept of a rebuttal case, then you have much to learn.

No. It is that you assume that I said that RP is entirely dead while what I said was something certainly different.

Do not think about saying that RP is dead? Somehow, I find that hard to believe.

You never had the openness for things that seem unorthodox to you, right ?

You still have not given a concrete answer. If you see the community as a place where RP only goes downward and where random deathmatchers and administrators continue to bring down roleplay to extremely low levels, why are you still here?

From all your complaints about this community, it seems that you would be better off somewhere else. Only idiots would waste their time and energy in a place where they see overwhelmingly more negatives than positives.

To give you a concrete answer : I am here because things can be changed. If you're in something that -you feel like- has alot more negative points than positive, would you back out or would you eventually find a way to change it ? There is more than just roleplaying in the server. If there was only that, we would have no reason to have the mainchat aswell as /pm. We would act like people going ingame to roleplay as their usual duty, nothing more, nothing less. And if you still do not get that I am here because of some people as well as the chance to still create some roleplay, then don't bother re-asking, just read it again. Read it until you comprehend.

No one said you have to hustle yourself off this community, you can leave voluntarily if you want.

So why are you still here?

why are you still here?

it seems that you would be better off somewhere else.

After all this agitating, you tell me that if I leave, it would be voluntarily? You do not seem to want me in here, do you ? Be honest, you're one of those who prejudice about people and they lose in value in your eyes, am I right ?

Anyone who has a proper capacity for reading would see that I am implicitly supporting his posts, since there is no need to rebut someone whose case you support, unless you have major logic problems.

No need to condescend again, I misunderstood a part of his post which lead to this. God, you're such a hassling moron when somebody makes a mistake.

Normally, I would feel rage whenever posting against this level of bigotry on part of the person I am rebutting. However, now, I cannot help but feel sorry for Emre, seeing how lost and deluded you have become in such a heavily distorted worldview.

Go ahead, rage. You don't even feel sorry after all the things you're shying at me, you just feel superior.

But then again, people who shit on the community and admins have come and gone, so I see no more reason to feel any remorse for your loss. No one else threw your lot in with those people but yourself, the key hallmark being your identification of those who actually stand up for this community with assholes, dickheads, and cunts.

Yet again you cannot differ shitting from (heavy) criticising probably aswell as moaning from decently complaining. Yes, I might act like a dickhead, an asshole or a cunt, but I'm still here and it apparently gives you a massive pain in the butt, so that will be one more reason to stay. Infact, for the time being, I just want you not to feel anything related to me. Carry on with your philosophical ranting on the bad guys and see what kind of progress it brings.

This  (Emre), Argonath (especially new players), is one kind of player you should not take an example from. Argonath is, was, and always will be home to many wonderful opportunities for roleplay, or else we would not be standing six years strong. We in the administration will see to it that it remains as such.

A world of its own.

I feel not surprised about the fact that you point something out that was clearly obvious. I never intended to be a role model, an example or a moron like you who -by the way- is being laughed at by atleast a fifth part of this community. Sure, I'm disliked alot more, but disliking and satirising is something different again. Anyways, back to the s... "or else we would not be standing six years strong"?! The community is standing strong because of the increasing amount of forum users and its activity, not because of the (as for example) anticipation of RS5 or the roleplay ingame.

I would like you to PM me as soon as you read this, I feel your ranting is rather directed to me than directed to anybody in general as a lesson.

[Morgan_Rose]

Low amount of people had came to Argonath for having a RP experience. Most of them came for the community. Although, when you'd try the RP, the amount of the people that would've continously RP with you, is unfortunately low. We've got the find a clear way which will be certainly encourging the considaration and knowledge of our people in the RP experiences. As you said in the first sentence, you CAN'T do it alone. 1 man against this amount of people would've be impossible.  We need a group of people, that will decide that they will try to RP such as Heavy RP, that would represent the RP beside their own life.
My opinion. People which do not accept it, you're free to follow your own opinions.

[[Rstar]Paul]

In any case, I would like to request topic be locked. It's gone way too far off topic and I think anything from this point on would just be repeating points stated earlier in the topic.

Topic locked as per author's request.