Where did all the roleplay go?

[rJCaiG]

Firstly, yes this is a rant and yes I expect you all to read it before you respond. Secondly, no, I don't expect any changes to be made, because I know that I can't alone change the horrific culture of RP that has developed on this server.

In the past few days, I have attempted to create a couple of initiative roleplays to get the people I choose to have some fun and use their imagination for once. I will detail each situation.

I approached an FBI Agent who was standing idly at the top of the stairs at FBI LS HQ. I introduced myself as Giac Junior, Tax Agent, and informed him that by standing there he was liable to be taxed under the 'standing on top of a high staircase' tax. I requested that he come with me to my Tax Agency in Dillimore. Instead of roleplaying, Mr. FBI Agent told me in local chat "Giac, I am not getting into a car with you, knowing your history." To this, I responded "My history? I have recently immigrated from Vice City, I know nobody here. I just got this job and you are my first task.", to which I got "I'm still not coming with you, sorry Giac."
Now, you don't need to be a genius to realise that this FBI Agent completely neglected any RP whatsoever. I decided that this might just be a one off situation, where someone isn't interested in roleplaying.
Today, I tried my Tax Agent RP again.

I approached a cop who was on some stairs in front of City Hall, informed him I was a tax agent, and I sat there speaking to him in local chat for five minutes, informing him of my role, obligations, and what we must do to remedy the situation, and he did not respond more than once, when he said hello to me at the beginning. However, he was speaking on public chat. This decision by this individual to completely disregard the RP unfolding in front of him shocked me! I was certain that I could entice someone to RP with me. Alas, I conceded defeat and left the scene.

Driving through Idlewood, I saw a few cops surrounding a criminal in a car, both sides yelling at each other. I stopped, got out, introduced myself to one of the cops as Giac Junior - Tax Agent, and told him that I might be able to help get the suspect out of the car. I approached the car and told the guy I was a Tax Agent, and that by sitting idle in a car at a gas station he could be liable to get taxed and suggested that he hop out and go with the officers. I am certain that if given enough time, he would have complied and RPed with it. However, the SAPD Lieutenant who I first spoke to decided to pysically walk in front of me, between me and the car, and told me to leave the scene.

Now, I would like to ask for you all to imagine how you would have reacted in the situation of the FBI Agent, the cop, and the Lieutenant. Would you have roleplayed with me? Would you have argued your rights against a stupid tax? Would you have come with me to my office in Dillimore? Would you have allowed me to coax the suspect into surrendering peacefully? What would you have done?
Don't answer. It doesn't bother me much, they were more rhetorical questions anyway.

Now of course there are possible explanations for all of the above. Perhaps the FBI Agent was on his way to cook some pancakes for some LSPD Officers. Perhaps the cop was deaf and could not hear me. Perhaps the Lieutenant thought I was going to brutally bash the suspect. But the fun of RP is to allow that RP to develop, to a point where perhaps we could have all got what we wanted. Maybe if the FBI Agent had come with me, I would have served him home made pancakes and invited the LSPD Officers. Perhaps the deaf cop could have found that there is a cochlear implant store next to me. Perhaps the Lieutenant may have found himself dealing with a surrendered suspect instead of an angry, raging one.

That's the fun of RP. You never know what's going to happen.

The point of this topic is to hopefully encourage you guys to explore RP some more. This server isn't all about pew pew criminals pew pew cops, get money get power get wealth get respect, it's about roleplaying.

Make it happen.

[Mikal]

I thought I'de beat everyone to the punch - "Lead by example."

However your right, since 2008 the daily roleplay that goes on has decreased to a point of no return, in my eyes it's mainly the fault of popular groups showing bad examples to new players, using SAPD for example: Black buffalos, randomly driving after any orange blip and opening fire, I'm not trying to be a b!tch or anything, I'm just stating the facts that in my eyes are true, you see SAPD non-stop drive-bying and not roleplaying 1 bit, you can't walk through Idlewood without getting called a 'fool' and being shot at because of the skin your wearing, I could list more but I don't want to shit on the server even more, maybe people should start 'leading by example' as they say, but telling 1 person this isnt going to change anything, whilst I'm here I'de also like to question BSF, their job is to fund roleplay, basicly, all I see is every tom and dick applying for BSF with their shit business idea, getting it granted then just paying any member that wants to join without anyone doing any work or roleplay.

My point is, nobody is leading by example, atleast not in a positive way and this is why the server is falling from roleplay to freeroam.

[rJCaiG]

I thought I'de beat everyone to the punch - "Lead by example."

However your right, since 2008 the daily roleplay that goes on has decreased to a point of no return, in my eyes it's mainly the fault of popular groups showing bad examples to new players, using SAPD for example: Black buffalos, randomly driving after any orange blip and opening fire, I'm not trying to be a bad girl or anything, I'm just stating the facts that in my eyes are true, you see SAPD non-stop drive-bying and not roleplaying 1 bit, you can't walk through Idlewood without getting called a 'fool' and being shot at because of the skin your wearing, I could list more but I don't want to shit on the server even more, maybe people should start 'leading by example' as they say, but telling 1 person this isnt going to change anything, whilst I'm here I'de also like to question BSF, their job is to fund roleplay. basicly, all I see is every tom and dick applying for BSF with their shit business idea, getting it granted then just paying any member that wants to join without anyone doing any work.

My point is, nobody is leading by example, atleast not in a positive way and this is why the server is falling from roleplay to freeroam.

I thought that I was leading by example by introducing weird, wacky, fun, initiative RPs? That was the entire point of this topic.

[Mikal]

I thought that I was leading by example by introducing weird, wacky, fun, initiative RPs? That was the entire point of this topic.

Leading by example to someone that doesn't do it himself and has no interest in true roleplay. :roll:

[eymas]

Maybe people are busy with other things and cannot roleplay.

I am repairing all sorts of appliances for my family so I cannot RP till I fixed those.

Life has a higher priority than a game. If there is no RP. Or people do not want you to interrupt theirs. Respect it.

[Mario_Rinna]

I thought that I was leading by example by introducing weird, wacky, fun, initiative RPs? That was the entire point of this topic.

So approaching people and asking for money is fun and creative these days? :trust:

[Mikal]

Maybe people are busy with other things and cannot roleplay.

I am repairing all sorts of appliances for my family so I cannot RP till I fixed those.

Life has a higher priority than a game. If there is no RP. Or people do not want you to interrupt theirs. Respect it.

Don't go IG then if your busy IRL and don't want to roleplay.

So approaching people and asking for money is fun and creative these days? :trust:

Did Giac say he wanted money? I don't see it..

[eymas]

Don't go IG then if your busy IRL and don't want to roleplay.

I am mostly online to talk and help others.
If you have a problem with that. There's nothing much you can do.

And I do play the game. when work is over. Easy.

[rJCaiG]

So approaching people and asking for money is fun and creative these days? :trust:

I dod not at any point request any sum of money. I requested that each individual come with me to my office so we could work out the details and core of the tax which I was attempting to apply to them. I expected them to come with me to the office, where they would deny the existence of the tax, which would lead to me calling on "coworkers" of mine to confirm it, at which point I would charge some rediculously low tax fine such as $40.

You have to remember Mario, I am not in this server for the money.

[TheRock]

Did Giac say he wanted money? I don't see it..

Next time care to read the topic before replying, lazy tl;dr'ers nowdays ;P..

I don't know what to say Giac, I guess you happent to find everybody on a bad mood! Or else, people are sick of those people who ask for money in any way and in any amount (including me, getting my PM spammed, because people think /admins = personal ATM.) I'm sure if you roleplay something else people will follow, and mostly in the areas where 'thugs' or mafia live, who try to keep it alive and real as always, they are always open for such things

[Jcstodds]

"Lead by example."

  Yes I agree

  You cannot force players to be good roleplayers however you can impress them, teach and encourage them to take your examples and want to have fun roleplaying. Maybe if you have bad reputation (or no reputation if new player) you need to prove what positive things you are capable of.

  Perhaps try RPing a non authoritive figure and you would perhaps get different results with who will go with you, or you could always choose to go with them.

[CharlieKasper]

Maybe people are busy with other things and cannot roleplay.

Yes, standing on a staircase is a very busy job to do.

Life has a higher priority than a game. If there is no RP. Or people do not want you to interrupt theirs. Respect it.

Don't play on a role-play server if you only want to talk and help others, do some role-play. P.S. I'm not saying that talking and helping is bad, but role-playing in front of the new players is better.

[Mikal]

Yes, standing on a staircase is a very busy job to do.Don't play on a role-play server if you only want to talk and help others, do some role-play. P.S. I'm not saying that talking and helping is bad, but role-playing in front of the new players, is better.

I agree, why do people play on Argonath'RPG' if they only want to chase suspects and stand round doing nothing..

[Mario_Rinna]

I dod not at any point request any sum of money. I requested that each individual come with me to my office so we could work out the details and core of the tax which I was attempting to apply to them. I expected them to come with me to the office, where they would deny the existence of the tax, which would lead to me calling on "coworkers" of mine to confirm it, at which point I would charge some rediculously low tax fine such as $40.

You have to remember Mario, I am not in this server for the money.

I did not say you do it for the money.

Nevertheless, this is a huge waste of time. Some people come online to actually have fun, not to discuss whether or not your tax is valid.

[rJCaiG]

  Yes I agree

  You cannot force players to be good roleplayers however you can impress them, teach and encourage them to take your examples and want to have fun roleplaying. Maybe if you have bad reputation (or no reputation if new player) you need to prove what positive things you are capable of.

  Perhaps try RPing a non authoritive figure and you would perhaps get different results with who will go with you, or you could always choose to go with them.

Oh but the authoritiative figure is what I do best! It is those times where I find I can persuade people to RP more and extend their imaginations further. For you, it is the opposite; where you're the passive, regular old guy, you find the way to extend people's imaginations and make them have fun. Although we are both good RPers, our styles differ - but we still get the same awesome result.
Post Merge: July 19, 2012, 12:46:16 pm

I did not say you do it for the money.

Nevertheless, this is a huge waste of time. Some people come online to actually have fun, not to discuss whether or not your tax is valid.

So, telling me that you will not get in my car because of my "track record", ignoring me, or simply refusing to allow any RP is fun? How can you know if this tax validity RP will be fun or not if you will not even try it?
Not everyone is confined by your definition of fun or creativity, which is why I try to extend people to find a balance where I can be creative and have fun, all the while allowing the other person to input and influence my reactions and therefore create an in depth, fun roleplay situation.