Removal of $500 penalty for LCPD / FBI / NOOSE

[Ramis]

Maybe a /dutytraining command could be made by a high ranked officer, then he kind of like invites people to training by /addtotraining ID every cop which is being trained. So that command wouldnt do much besides temporarily disabling -500$ each time for killing cops, but not civilians. Since only high rank cops or noose/fbi could initiate training, rate of abuses will be virtually zero. Also maybe that training cmd could give other perks like big variety of gun rearm (that would be removed from inventory after training is finished) , etc. So basically -500$ could get removed only temporarily , and only on other cops being killed, if they are invited to training, they dont lose cash by killing each other. Also make a clock for training, so training would automatically end later on if high rank cops would forget to finish it by typing /finishtraining , would end either way in 1 hr from cmd initiation, unless overriden by typing cmd again. All these commands would be off limits to lower rank cops. Any abuse of this command to avoid charges outside real training would be treated as Script Abuse as well as risking loosing your duty rank.
Just my idea on this topic , please feel free to discuss it.

[Norrage]

The $500 penalty will absolutely stay, as with it removed freecops (and ranked ones) will be spraying bullets without a care in the world. It is called a penalty for a reason, those with the responsibility to handle weapons/firearms in the name of the state should take proper care not to kill other civilians and officers. With that said one thing I never see trained (official or freecop) is crossfire. Too often I see cops running into the path of another officers automatic shotgun and taking damage and/or death. Staying out of the line of fire needs to be observed by both the shooter and others involved. Suspects running circles around cops in order to get them to shoot each other is another move I've observed which can easily be thwarted with a little patience.

As to the training side of things obviously $500 per death can add up rather quickly during even a short training session (as we observed the other day, thank you for allowing me to participate in your training  ). My suggestion is to add a few "safe zones" where the $500 penalty will not apply. NOoSe HQ and Leftwood PD come to mind, Leftwood has a nice large and open parking lot which would be good for training. Something like 2-3x the radius of megaphone range should cover the area from the center of the blip. The script should support this as it would work similar to the range check done when attempting to harvest in front of cops.

Does this seem like a reasonable solution?

Looks like the solution to me. Agreed on this.

[skillz]

Supported

This is a major problem to the NOOSE with our Tactical Response Unit. We always have to interfere with this problem on training purposes, by having the $500 fee wiped off all Law Enforcements, as Law Enforcers we have procedures and rules with experience in the field, we know when we're allowed to shoot a weapon and when not. We know when to use a weapon, freecops should have at least have it reduced to a $200 fine or no fine at all.

On the other hand with the LCPD, It will benefit more Trainings for our Shooting practices. We can't move ahead of this stage because of this fee is the main problem being in the way because we can't have propper shooting trainings, the IV:MP client another reason why since it's Z-Angle is terrible for aiming, just doesn't have much effect. Having this fee removed will help eliminate all the problems in LCPD & NOOSE, I am certain that FBI would also support this for their own Shooting purposes as well.


IF this cannot reach an agreement, Law Enforcement should be allowed to have a /training command which is used for training purposes without $500 fee's been given, it is much better without the fine and we can get to business with our Shooting training's and have a stronger chance in more physical shooting training's, then how currently it is now.

[skillz]

The $500 penalty will absolutely stay, as with it removed freecops (and ranked ones) will be spraying bullets without a care in the world. It is called a penalty for a reason, those with the responsibility to handle weapons/firearms in the name of the state should take proper care not to kill other civilians and officers. With that said one thing I never see trained (official or freecop) is crossfire. Too often I see cops running into the path of another officers automatic shotgun and taking damage and/or death. Staying out of the line of fire needs to be observed by both the shooter and others involved. Suspects running circles around cops in order to get them to shoot each other is another move I've observed which can easily be thwarted with a little patience.

As to the training side of things obviously $500 per death can add up rather quickly during even a short training session (as we observed the other day, thank you for allowing me to participate in your training  ). My suggestion is to add a few "safe zones" where the $500 penalty will not apply. NOoSe HQ and Leftwood PD come to mind, Leftwood has a nice large and open parking lot which would be good for training. Something like 2-3x the radius of megaphone range should cover the area from the center of the blip. The script should support this as it would work similar to the range check done when attempting to harvest in front of cops.

Does this seem like a reasonable solution?

It's a great solution for this problem, Certain places to have Exceptions for fines from Law Enforcers in locations. It will help us get back to business and do what we need to do.
 
These following locations are important for Noose & LCPD:

- Noose HQ (TRU HQ)
- Underground Carpark - Accross the road from Noose HQ
- Leftwood PD
- Colony Island (Abandoned Hospital - really important)
- Old Casino (just a suggestion)

[Commander_Cj]

LeftWood PD Is Very Suitable , Maybe Some buildings also Will help LCPD Cadets and Others how to act in stairs and others because of our Z-Angle which prevents from shooting in all Directions....

Supported alot..

[badboy.dhia]

i still remmeber one time a new player join duty and keep carkilling me more than 20 times xD and he keep doing that until he lost all his money !
so $500 penalty is good for free cops ! its like a small punishment for them (when no online admins) !
but how about removal of $500 penalty for High ranked cops and fbi ! ?

[louay]

We all know that the LCPD, FBI and NOOSE trains shooting to their cadets. With the $500 penalty to kill other cops this removes alot of money from the trainers' pockets.

 the penalty should stay for freecops with no experience (like shooting in wild).

That was already the idea xd

[Basico]

JUST DO IT

[MHAQ25]

SUPPORTED