My grudge against Salmonella has nothing to do with this, I used him as one example of many others.
Who the F are you and why do you hold ''grudges'' against me. I think i vageuly remember you from 2008 but apart from that....? Who are you to judge me and who are you to accuse me of that which i have NEVER done in the server. I have never been spectating anyone AT ALL in VCMP. When I came to VCMP months ago I did indeed want to change things. I did indeed make screenshots of rulebreaking when I saw it. But no, I did not ''search'' for rulebreaking. I was never there to prevent anything from happening and neither was i anywhere to STOP anything from happening. I was merely observing whilst I tried, and yes I say tried, because I rarely succeeded ; to enjoy the server.
Don't accuse me anything without knowing anything about either me or the subject. And about the subject fifty percent of the replying party in this topic, lacks information and knowledge. Either that, or certain people are very simply pretending to not know what really happened.
I have stated my point in these forums dedicated to the VC:MP community of Argonath many times but I shall do so once again because of the rumouring going on about the server, the community and myself. The last one in particular has led me to summon myself once again.
I wont bore you with some kind of story starting with ''When I joined VCMP......'' because that's pretty much a predictable, known and similair to many other stories-story.. Instead, I will start by telling you how it was when I rejoined..
When I rejoined VC:MP to catch up with old friends, get some rest and just in general enjoy Vice City again, I did find myself in an awkward world. This was no longer the world of its own, Argonath, as I remembered it when I departed. There was barely any friendship as some of you attempt to imply. There was discrimination, dividing, but more-over, there was anarchy. An anarchy which had teared this server apart. A dividing which had completely divided the VC:MP server from what it once was a part of, Argonath. And at last, discrimination, the discrimination against ''SA:MPers''.
To continue with the last one ; Argonath is supposed to be ONE, STRONG, COMMUNITY and should never be divided into pieces having nothing to do with eachother. I myself enjoy playing on a lot of servers in Argonath, SA:MP, VC:MP ( now, yes ), IV:MP, MTA:VC ( sometimes, barely ). Simply because it's Argonath. If it wasn't for Argonath I would probably not even use my GTA:VC, GTA:SA or GTA:IV discs anymore at all. I'm not playing that game, I am playing Argonath. VC:MP was for a long time, 2009 untill the recent light coming back to VC:MP, not a part of Argonath which accepted people from other parts of Argonath, in specific SA:MP. Not only would there be such discrimination against the people from SA:MP but the vision of Argonath, which once was present in VC:MP was no longer there.
Even right in this topic we can see some parts of the discrimination I am speaking of. Just look at how some people speak of others as if they are better. ''You haven't played for over weeks'', ''you're not active, so go away from this topic''. As if not being able to play for a period of time revokes people from having their freedom of speech, opinions and ways of thinking and expressing themselfs.. It is a very clear form of discrimination. The plain hatred which can also be looked uppon at as discrimination, is one reason why the VC:MP server had come to the point out of which I speak : Chaos.
To my next point, the dividing. The ''dividing'' as I find it appropiate to call it, is another reason why this server did no longer fulfill the original Argonath vision. This point has two meanings or points. First of all, thanks to the discrimination which i previously discussed, the VC:MP server had divided itself from other parts of Argonath. Something like that just isn't right and I am very happy that people from the other parts of Argonath are paying more attention to the VC:MP server now ( this includes the owners ) and are assuring it wont fall back to a previous state.
The other meaning of the dividing is the way the server itself was divided into two kinds of people and were basically enemies. ''Cops 'n robbers'', thats what it was. There was hardly any roleplay between criminals and cops if any. During my short stay in the past months of 2011 I haven't encountered any decent way of roleplay between criminals and cops. At first I intended on becoming a criminal. I had sticked to people from [EAF] for a few weeks, basically doing the same thing over and over again. Getting and selling diamonds for money, talking with eachother and shooting cops without actually making any contact.
At that point I found myself in a state of mind where I no longer wanted to play VC:MP.. But good friends kept me there and a week after that previous state of mind I was back. This time I just wanted to roleplay a citizen, but that offered no satisfaction whatsoever because the server simply didn't offer anything for a mere citizen not involving himself into either law or criminal activities. So this time I decided I'd rejoin to VC:PD. After I rejoined the VC:PD I found myself on the other side of the server. It was also a very boring experience typing !sur and shooting / getting shot all day, Almost as boring as doing it on the other side, only this time, I didn't start the shoot-out.
Again, I couldn't be arsed to actually continue this way so I decided it was time for a change. I did indeed gather evidence of what was going on and I did indeed notice that it NEVER came from the ''cop side'' of the server. At that point I realized that there wasn't any possibility of satisfying roleplay with everyone in the server, so i started, trying to bring it back.
I had many support from people inside the VC:PD and I also had many criminals being against me. Automatically I was being put under a label by some people in the server. A label which says ''cop''. The dividing had once again proven istelf to exist. So when I was attempting to play with some friends ingame I in the meanwhile did indeed gather evidence and outside of the server I did have many talks with owners and many others. Supporters, helpers, people with interest, etc..
I did investigate how it could come to this and I have many theories which all lead to one thing. Anarchy. ''A social state characterized by a lack of a state or libertarianism.'' . I do not often bring political stuff into Argonath but Anarchy is the most simple way to describe what was going on in the VC:MP community and apperentally also in parts of the administration. It had abandoned its original vision.
Now I won't but more-over can't go any furthur because then I would be urged and forced to bring up names of people. That's one thing I won't do after what allready happened recently
In conclusion, Ever since the recent attention the server has been getting from the owners, the original Argonath vision is slowly returning and there is no longer a certain ''chaos'' of which i spoke earlier.. Some may say they want those who were removed / banned back to the community, but the owners' decisions are decisions which I personally and many others did fully agree on and strived to get for a long time. It is better this way and even although some in this topic believe their friends should be re-introduced to their previous positions / the server... It would not be appropiate and by far not be a ''solution'' to a ''problem'' some see, called peace. I would advice those just to become friends with others and not start unneeded bickering.
For the replies / gypsy thing / provoking
It is very clear that some people ( last 6 replies ) are simply trying to look for flamewars and unneeded discussions : You'll only get yourself in trouble. The people you're trying to attack are more mature and won't allow your provoking to become a flamewar.
Trying to defend the term gypsy is just another excuse to provoke those who realize it is a racial and discriminative word. Want to call eachother something ''funny''? sure, but keep it within the server rules. Avoid racism, provocation and discrimination with the next word please. Besides, If someone asks you not to call people gypsies, then why continue? provocation.
Peace. I hope it wont be screwed up again
-Salmonella
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