Advertising other servers on RS5

[Miller786]

I can't realise how low we have fallen, fighting against eachother, i though this was a community...

[Jaka_Lah]

I can't realise how low we have fallen, fighting against eachother, i though this was a community...

Even comunities have some hard times, it's how we react to them, and here we have shown loyality to our members, 30 people fighting to get ONE unbanned, I'm kinda proud of them, even if Gandalf went batshit crazy.. we have proven AS a comunity that we can acomplish something.. even though I can't believe we had to prove it.. I mean Argonath spawned another comunity of people that liked RS4, it is how the developers react, my reaction is "good on ya'" ..

[Paco]

I got f**king stoned because of the stupidity here, can't stop laughing.

Keep such posts for yourself, if you aren't going to post something constructive, then I don't see a reason why you should come here blabbering about stupidity.

[Louis H]

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Okay so, (not that I do) but if I had friends on facebook, who I met through Argonath, then I am not allowed to post on MY wall on FACEBOOK any content from another SA:MP server other than Argonath? Stupid.

It doesn't matter where I met someone, if I have a friend on facebook (I don't on facebook, just just exmple) or skype then I won't be told what I can't do there if it is not related to Argonath. If I wish to ask a friend to come and play **-** then I will do that, I won't be told what I can and can not do on SKYPE by Argonath management.

[Pandalink]

So if you post on your Facebook wall about a GTA server you like, that's suddenly advertising using Argonath?

right..

[Louis H]

So if you post on your Facebook wall about a GTA server you like, that's suddenly advertising using Argonath?

right..

If you have someone from argonath on your friend list, and you do that, yeah...

[[WS]Jacob]

Well JDC is not Argonath management/administration so I think it is better for these rules to be clarified by someone who actually holds authority to make such declarations.

[Ethan.]

Well JDC is not Argonath management/administration so I think it is better for these rules to be clarified by someone who actually holds authority to make such declarations.

Isn't that punishable? I mean, making up rules?

[kevinarens]

What about youtube? If i have argonath subscribers? Am i not allowed to post videos from other servers?

[James_Webb]

I'm really getting disappointed in this topic, disappointed of how some people and even managers find it necessary to tell people to kill themselves just because of an argument. Disappointed of how Argonath acts to people who advertise on nothing else than resources outside the server. Alright of course if you are admin/manager on a server and you get a mass message that promotes another server it's normal to get a bit butthurt, but to ban them straight away is something that i think that is going to far. Besides is there anywhere a rule that states that it's forbidden to advertise a server on Facebook? Even when it's to people playing argo, you do in your private life what you want and making such a big deal about advertising on facebook is a bit ridiculous. Honestly Facebook is becoming one of the most commercial social network sites on the internet, it's all about advertising these days.

I don't want to blame anyone, i'm just stating my opinion, please respect that as i respect yours and as i'm whiling to listen to yours.

[Louis H]

What about youtube? If i have argonath subscribers? Am i not allowed to post videos from other servers?

Your youtube channel, you can do whatever you want, but it seems some people disagree.

[FlameMan]

You really can't see a difference between basic inviting people on a server and attempt to steal members by using Argonath name and reputation?
I promised myself I would not post in this topic any more, but I am just struck by your ignorance.

1) You can invite your facebook friends to another server (even if it's yours).
2) You can post other server's IP to your wall and invite people there.
3) You can upload pictures and videos from that server, there's no problem.

The problem appears when you start to use Argonath's reputation and players in order to gain more players.
It's not only trying to steal Argonath players (who left because of RS5 or didn't, it doesn't matter), but also trying to copy Argonath...

1) He said multiple times himself.. He created a server similar to RS4 (so he actually copied Argonath, which is bannable by itself).
2) Then he contacted Argonath players who were not his friends (over 100 people, most of whom he never spoke to). So, he tried to steal Argonath members.
3) Finally, he said the server was similar to RS4 Argonath, so he used our name and OUR reputation to make people interested. It was not basic "Come to see my RPG server" . It was using Argonath to gain bigger interest.

Of these three points, EACH is enough to be banned from our community, SEPARATELY. Doing them all together is just making it worse.

I am so disappointed to see you fighting for these guys claiming freedom and the good of Argonath. These guys actually were trying to steal our members, nothing less.


... and additionally - listen to what Gandalf is trying to say and you're ignoring. He can do whatever he wants on his "private account". But then, we - as the administration and management of our server - can also do what we want. If he has the right to ad his server using our name - and we shouldn't interrupt, we have the right to ban him and he shouldn't interrupt neither.

[Bruce.]

I am just struck by your ignorance.

And who are you to insult people just like that?

[Brian]

You really can't see a difference between basic inviting people on a server and attempt to steal members by using Argonath name and reputation?
I promised myself I would not post in this topic any more, but I am just struck by your ignorance.

1) You can invite your facebook friends to another server (even if it's yours).
2) You can post other server's IP to your wall and invite people there.
3) You can upload pictures and videos from that server, there's no problem.

The problem appears when you start to use Argonath's reputation and players in order to gain more players.
It's not only trying to steal Argonath players (who left because of RS5 or didn't, it doesn't matter), but also trying to copy Argonath...

1) He said multiple times himself.. He created a server similar to RS4 (so he actually copied Argonath, which is bannable by itself).
2) Then he contacted Argonath players who were not his friends (over 100 people, most of whom he never spoke to). So, he tried to steal Argonath members.
3) Finally, he said the server was similar to RS4 Argonath, so he used our name and OUR reputation to make people interested. It was not basic "Come to see my RPG server" . It was using Argonath to gain bigger interest.

Of these three points, EACH is enough to be banned from our community, SEPARATELY. Doing them all together is just making it worse.

I am so disappointed to see you fighting for these guys claiming freedom and the good of Argonath. These guys actually were trying to steal our members, nothing less.

I agree with you, But one thing. Why are members of the ArgonathRPG (locked) group saying we are not allowed to post 'other servers' on our wall.
and threatning us with 'global bans'

[Devin]

I'll give you guys this, I was rather taken back when seeing how many community members united against something that they felt was wrong (Ethans forum ban). It's good to see such unity can be found within the members at times like this.

The only issue was the way it happened and was produced, how things were done is not and was not the best way it could have gone down but a point was brought across at the end of it.
Once again I do applaud all of you for how unified you all displayed yourselves in a time like this.

As for the advertising, it's not so much as a user going about saying "Come try my server" but the issue of players stating it's in a way a re-make of an Argonath script.