Advertising other servers on RS5

[KhornateMonkey]

Argonath hasn't changed; people have.

And the people make up Argonath...   

[Teddy]

And the people make up Argonath...

Touché

[Bruce.]

We don't care what you do with your personal life, but when it comes to taking advantage of Argonath that's when we actually care.

As i said i did what i did i got what was deserved, why everyone wants to restart the case?

[James_Webb]

If a message was sent to lots of random Argo people saying "try this server, its like Argonath/RS4" and they still insist it was not advertising, we might as well assume they were born yesterday...


We do not need rules for everything. Mainly because not only things like these should be a matter of common sense, but also that we do not want to turn the Rules into a huge ass rulebook.

Sadly though, there are just some people who you have to explain everything down to the letter as they cannot figure it out for themselves...

common sence... if this would all be about common sence and 'people that needs everything explained ' then this situation where loads of people are fighting each other wouldn't not occur.

anyway i'm done with discussing since i've said everything i wanted to and since i realized that this is way too dramatical for such a small thing.

why is this topic even not locked yet? there will only be more fights and an endless discussion so nothing much more to accomplish.

[Mario_Alfonso]

We do not need rules for everything. Mainly because not only things like these should be a matter of common sense, but also that we do not want to turn the Rules into a huge ass rulebook.

Sadly though, there are just some people who you have to explain everything down to the letter as they cannot figure it out for themselves...

Let's put it this way, drill it into that skull of yours,

"We do not need rules for everything"

okay, let me narrow this down.

A ban/warning/kick/mute/tempban whatever you call it, counts as what?

a rulebreak.

Alright, we've got this far, a Rulebreak is where someone breaks one of the regulations or rules set by the administration team.

Now, if a company opened, and had every rule except for "You may not give information away to anyone outside the company" or however it would be phrased, and you did so, that would not consist as a rulebreak, therefor counting your statement as invalid.

IF the rule's are poorly created, and everything fails to be listed within, that's not any community MEMBERS fault, you saying "We do not need rules for everything" is a pile of bullshit.

[JDC]

i have spoken with people in private so just shut this case down.I did what i did its a story now, anyone who keep talking for what i did will be reported.

Says the person who makes uninformed statements, tells people to "mind their own fucking business" after sticking his nose in the community's business, has no manners (because every fucking thing sounds fucking better when you use fucking words like fucking, am I right?), and acts all sanctimonious after advertising.

Sue me.

Alex, Calm down, i don't understand why you are so angry, it's a game, and if something happened bad to you IRL, or made you angry from a GAME, it couldn't make you so angry like that, Calm down mate 

IRL is no excuse to act like a total shit online. Your teacher can have a huge fight with their spouse the night before that has them feeling like shit, yet remain civil once they step in the school. It's called maturity and professionalism, something certain self-proclaimed rioteers could use more of.

Let's put it this way, drill it into that skull of yours,

Why should I, or anyone else here who loves this community, take a lesson from someone who brags about not caring about Argonath?

It's laughable how people who just got unbanned from advertising and constant provoking walk in here and act like they have the rights to teach people who actually cared about this community while they were busy undermining it.

[JDC]

As i said i did what i did i got what was deserved, why everyone wants to restart the case?

Do you seriously expect to start a shitstorm in something that people love (this community) and have those people look very nicely at you afterwards?

[Mario_Alfonso]

Why should I, or anyone else here who loves this community, take a lesson from someone who brags about not caring about Argonath?

It's laughable how people who just got unbanned from advertising and constant provoking walk in here and act like they have the rights to teach people who actually cared about this community while they were busy undermining it.

Brags about not caring about Argonath? We had a conversation in-game towhere you said we all shit ourself because gandalf came ingame and removed the #FreeEthan shit from our profiles.

For the heads up, evidently you've just admitted to being the ultimate nerd, I stated to you, VERY clearly, I don't give a shit about Argonath itself but it's members and community.

What else is there to care about proffessor einstein? Should I care about the script? Because I don't, Should I care about my Money? Well I don't, Should I care if Argonath went but the community stayed? No, I wouldn't.

The community IS the ONLY important part of Argonath.

No one here has Undermined the community? I in-fact love Argonath and 30% of the Administrators here, not counting 20% of the community leaders.

Instead of acting like it's your job to be an admin, wait untill you get looked at and hired, if you ever do, then you can start speaking to us as if you are in some high ranked position.

[Mircea_Niko]

I don't even recognize argo now, we where all friends 

   I feel you. You could actually say Buh Bye to that...

   Okay, this actually went too far. Yes, I am neutral, and I understand the cause the ones on Ethan's side are fighting for, and I respect them for being united for it, so well done. But in this way, ummm.. no, I cannot support that.
   The only one in position to decide at the moment is only Gandalf, and at this point everybody is at fight with the admins, managers etc. Despite the fact that they can unban, considering the gravity of this situation and the proportions it has reached to, only Ronnel can choose: unban Ethan (who I saw in-game yesterday after all of that discussion, but meh) and put an end to this unprecedented war, with porn, which I am ashamed to see in the topics in our community, hardcore flames, provocations, smartassing, racism. Or everything will stay the same and we will have to get over it in a way or another, without, obviously, starting another confrontations.
   So, in conclusion, guys, wait a response from the HQ, flooding this topic will only lead to more and more bullshit, and can lead to SA:MP Division's closure, which I am sure, however you look at the situation, you do not want.

   Best of luck, it is only your call people...

[FlameMan]

The whole argument is now resolved. In response to some peoples' opinions that we shouldn't have punished for that - Gandalf made the point clear and proved us, the administration, being right about the wrongfulness of these actions and the punishments given later on.

I feel it's not necessary to repeat what has already been said multiple times. The argument is over and this topic shall stay here for people with any future plans of committing similar actions.

[Bruce.]

Do you seriously expect to start a shitstorm in something that people love (this community) and have those people look very nicely at you afterwards?

People love this community, i also do ... but you are forgetting that people don't love Argonath SA:MP server anymore.(Talking about RS5)
And i am not here to start a shitstorm with people like you, wannabe admin people so please leave me alone and stop talking shit about me and what i do on my personal facebook account. <3 Peace and love <3

[Devin]

People love this community, i also do ... but you are forgetting that people don't love Argonath SA:MP server anymore.(Talking about RS5)
And i am not here to start a shitstorm with people like you, wannabe admin people so please leave me alone and stop talking shit about me and what i do on my personal facebook account. <3 Peace and love <3

Let's straighten this utter confusion out, you say people don't love SA:MP, which is in-fact your own personal opinion.
You proceed to call a past administration member a "wannabe admin" and then you say peace and love?

You're free to your own opinion and that's a given, but if you want to come and voice your opinion as if it's that of "everyone" then you have a fair bit to understand.
You're also free to do as you like on facebook but if you decide to start comparing something to Argonath and saying it is Argonath then there is where the problems are created.

I hope that's an easy enough break down of the issue.

[Jaka_Lah]

Do you seriously expect to start a shitstorm in something that people love (this community) and have those people look very nicely at you afterwards?

Well he went with the simple mentality; Gandalf told him to make 400$ out of thin air to bring RS4 back, why pay someone else for the server YOU can own, he made a new comunity. I will never see a problem with that, leaving out the advertising part would bring his decision making to regular, as many people believe in "Why let other people do it when you can do it better yourself". I have no problem with what Alex did, but I find rather amusing what kind of shit storm it brought upon the forum, had to turn on adblock to not give Gandalf too much adsense seeing how I refreshed the website on three different computers.. We almost DoS'd ourselves.

[Gandalf]

Well he went with the simple mentality; Gandalf told him to make 400$ out of thin air to bring RS4 back, why pay someone else for the server YOU can own, he made a new comunity. I will never see a problem with that, leaving out the advertising part would bring his decision making to regular, as many people believe in "Why let other people do it when you can do it better yourself". I have no problem with what Alex did, but I find rather amusing what kind of shit storm it brought upon the forum, had to turn on adblock to not give Gandalf too much adsense seeing how I refreshed the website on three different computers.. We almost DoS'd ourselves.

I set a goal not to receive that amount of money, but to see if there was ANY person who was really willing to contribute.
As I said clearly, the ONLY thing people are doing is whining in topics, but if you are asked to ACTUALLY contribute there is NOBODY who steps forward.
People say they want RS4, then take a basic script from SAMP forum and pretend it is the same as OUR work. Does that show they want RS4? Not it shows they are hypocrites who can only whine and are unwilling to actually contribute.

[Teddy]

as many people believe in "Why let other people do it when you can do it better yourself".

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Copying a cheap script off SA:MP forums... yes... so so sososososososo much better than RS5.

I would agree its alright if someone disagreed with how we do things then went off and made their own script ENTIRELY from scratch and built up their community without advertising and breaching the rules of other communities. However, that isn't what happened here.