[DENIED]TiMoN banned by Leon_Arallian

[TiMoN]

Your in-game name:
TiMoN

Ban reason as was stated in-game:
I see no need in continuing in this argument.

Admin who banned you:
Leon_Arallian

When you were banned:
Now.

Additional notes:
Really pathetic.

[Devin]

Additional notes:
Really pathetic.

That really touched my feelings.. Care to explain why you think you are now banned?

[TiMoN]

That really touched my feelings..

I'm happy it did.

Me and Mikal were talking about "jokes" that are not offending to anyone and why does admins disallow joking, then Leon started telling to us to cut it. I saw no point in following such order as I wasn't rulebreaking, so I continued. Then Leon banned for such reason. I'm sure Leon can also provide a funny side of the story, so does Mikal.

[Devin]

I saw no point in following such order as I wasn't rulebreaking, so I continued.

Incredible reasoning behind your actions, because you didn't see what's wrong so you just go ahead and ignore what you are asked to stop doing.
If a police officer where you live tells you not to enter a building, are you going to listen to them or go to jail?

If an administration member asks you to stop doing something, there's reasoning behind it and it's always advisable to obey what they tell you.

I guess you have a problem with authority or listening to what you are told.

[TiMoN]

I guess you have a problem with authority or listening to what you are told.

I have a problem with taking orders from people who have no authority over me in something. Joking is not against the rules, if it is, please make a long list marking every sort of joke bannable.

Also disallow arguing with administrators, because it's a rulebreak as most of the admins see.

[Devin]

Unfortunately for you administrators have authority over you within SA:MP as they are here to guide and assist the players.
Arguing with administrators is not welcome either.

[TiMoN]

Unfortunately for you administrators have authority over you within SA:MP as they are here to guide and assist the players.

No they're not, they are limited to stopping people from rulebreaking, not telling players to stop doing something nobody is caring about.

[eymas]

Remember that I mentioned "derogatory banter" a few times?

Both Hyuga and I had tried to explain that some jokes can turn out rather disrespectful, as with the constant mocking of RS5 by "calling each bug an rs5" and similar,
I tried to tell you this could be interpreted as disrespectful by others and as such I pointed out that you would either have to take it to PM or CB, or to drop it all together.

Unfortunately both of you kept adding fuel to the fire, leading it to becoming an inferno of heated arguments. Despite attempts to put an end to it, I had to use a banishment in order to execute the ending.

Why do admins disallow joking?
Joking is not against the rules.

We disallow jokes if they show any sign of provocation or any form of insulting one or another.
I have tried to explain this as well.

[TiMoN]

Remember that I mentioned "derogatory banter" a few times?

Both Hyuga and I had tried to explain that some jokes can turn out rather disrespectful, as with the constant mocking of RS5 by "calling each bug an rs5" and similar,
I tried to tell you this could be interpreted as disrespectful by others and as such I pointed out that you would either have to take it to PM or CB, or to drop it all together.

Unfortunately both of you kept adding fuel to the fire, leading it to becoming an inferno of heated arguments. Despite attempts to put an end to it, I had to use a banishment in order to execute the ending.

We disallow jokes if they show any sign of provocation or any form of insulting one or another.
I have tried to explain this as well.

1. I wasn't insulting anybody.
2. Nobody was getting provoked.
3. Nobody was complaining, other than you and Hyuga.
Hopefully I made these points clear, since you banned me after I said them in game, failing to understand.

[TiMoN]

Not able to edit posts, so I'm posting another.
"Derogatory" as you posted is "showing a critical or disrespectful attitude".
Neither me or Mikal was being disrespectful, while "bantering" eachother was not against the rules, you were telling us to stop.

Again, I request that a manager or so to create a long list of rules, so when someone ends up banned, we don't have to go through this annoying process. And also to avoid admins making their own rules.

[eymas]

1. I wasn't insulting anybody.
2. Nobody was getting provoked.
3. Nobody was complaining, other than you and Hyuga.
Hopefully I made these points clear, since you banned me after I said them in game, failing to understand.

I tried to tell you this could be interpreted as disrespectful

Preventive measures were applied in this case.

[TiMoN]

Preventive measures were applied in this case.

Still, there was none taking it offensively.

[Cyril]

If an admin tells you to do something, you have to listen to him, period.
You chose to ignore administration, you are banned, simple.

[eymas]

Still, there was none taking it offensively.

Correct, but as I had mentioned earlier, I wanted to prevent that a few would take it as offensive.
Hence the fact I told you to try and take it to a private chat, yet you refused to do so.

And Cyril & Devin mention a few good points as well.

[TiMoN]

If an admin tells you to do something, you have to listen to him, period.
You chose to ignore administration, you are banned, simple.

If an admin tells me to leave the server for no apparent reason, I won't, "period".