'Suicide bomber' hits Russia's Volgograd train station

[Ehks]

No, it was because the Nazi's were the problem, not Muslims, and there weren't even 1.7 billion Muslims in the world during the time of WW1 and there still isn't now, theres around 1.6, not that it really matters.. You have to realise that there's 7 billion people in the world right now making Muslims not a small amount but still smaller amount compared to the 2 billion Christians, 1.1 billion (and growing rapidly) Atheist along with the countless other religions that fill up the rest of the 7 billion population, which means theres not really enough Muslims to cause an actual armageddon or any extreme problem, though I guess of course terrorism would rise, though I also guess most Muslims would just convert to another religion if their holy center was to be destroyed.

To be honest the fact that you state that if Islam's holy place were to be nuked there would be armageddon kind of shows how much of a problem religion really is, glad to be one of those 1.1 billion atheists.

Are you okay? You want us to sit back and watch it and do nothing about it?

Also you know what's funny? You basically just said NUKING Mecca is totally fine, but us defending ourselves is chaos. Seriously Mikal. LOL... Let's nuke London and see your reaction.

[Mikal]

are you sure

Yes, they just weren't called Nazi's yet.

Tell me more about your calculations and numbers..

1+1=2

Are you okay? You want us to sit back and watch it and do nothing about it?

Also you know what's funny? You basically just said NUKING Mecca is totally fine, but us defending ourselves is chaos. Seriously Mikal. LOL... Let's nuke London and see your reaction.

No I didn't say it was fine, I was just saying it wouldn't cause a problem for non-Islamic countries apart from the rise in terrorism which can be dealt with through stricter immigration controls and policing.

One cannot really nuke London due to the UK's advanced air defence technology along with the fact that your country doesn't have nukes.

[JDC]

Yes, they just weren't called Nazi's yet.

For the love of British education, I'm wondering what you were doing during your history class. You might want to read on "German Empire", "Nazi Party", and the difference between them too.

No I didn't say it was fine, I was just saying it wouldn't cause a problem for non-Islamic countries apart from the rise in terrorism which can be dealt with through stricter immigration controls and policing.

Let's add your Physics and Economics classes too. Do you seriously think the majority of the world will suffer problems that can be limited by mere immigration control if the holiest city of the second largest religion is nuked?

Air delivery is not the only way to nuke a city like London either. If I were a nuke-wielding terrorist, the last approach I would like to use when attacking a city is to send a nuke rocketing through the sky where everyone can see it coming for a long time.

But granting somebody was actually that stupid to pull it off, even if a warhead were intercepted in mid-air a few kilometers from London, it could still cause catastrophic damage.

[Mikal]

For the love of British education, I'm wondering what you were doing during your history class. You might want to read on "German Empire", "Nazi Party", and the difference between them too.

I still call them Nazi..

Let's add your Physics and Economics classes too. Do you seriously think the majority of the world will suffer problems that can be limited by mere immigration control if the holiest city of the second largest religion is nuked?

Not the larger majority of the world, but any modernised countries with the slighest bit of brain can prevent terrorism.

Air delivery is not the only way to nuke a city like London either. If I were a nuke-wielding terrorist, the last approach I would like to use when attacking a city is to send a nuke rocketing through the sky where everyone can see it coming for a long time.

But granting somebody was actually that stupid to pull it off, even if a warhead were intercepted in mid-air a few kilometers from London, it could still cause catastrophic damage.

Right, so when you find a nuke that is small and light enough to fit into a terrorists back pack and be smuggled over many countries to get to it's final destination, let me know.

But granting somebody was actually that stupid to pull it off, even if a warhead were intercepted in mid-air a few kilometers from London, it could still cause catastrophic damage.

Look at Europe please, only 2 of it's countries in it have nuclear weapons and that is the UK and France, however most countries in Europe have anti-missile technology so even if Pakistan (the only Islamic country with nuclear weapons) were to launch a missile at Russia, the UK or any other country for that matter it would likely be shot down before it reaches anywhere near the edge of Europe or Russia, if not even while it's still inside Pakistan.

[Ragdoll]

I was just saying it wouldn't cause a problem for non-Islamic countries

Last I checked there are Muslims all over the world. Do you reaaaaaaally want to piss those guys off?

Face it... whether you nuke Mecca, or I dunno.. the Vatican, or Jerusalem, there's going to be chaos.

[EliteTerm]

Last I checked there are Muslims all over the world. Do you reaaaaaaally want to piss those guys off?

Face it... whether you nuke Mecca, or I dunno.. the Vatican, or Jerusalem, there's going to be chaos.

If a single nuke went off in a populated area, no matter which country or religion, there will be chaos. Fingers will be pointing at each other and tensions would be worse than the Cuban Missile Crisis.

[Pandalink]

Yes, they just weren't called Nazi's yet.

I still call them Nazi..

Are you being real right now?

[Mikal]

Are you being real right now?

Yes, they were the start of what would become the Nazi's, and so I call them Nazi's regardless, if you have a better name please share.

[Ragdoll]

Are you being real right now?

You can never tell with that guy...

If a single nuke went off in a populated area, no matter which country or religion, there will be chaos. Fingers will be pointing at each other and tensions would be worse than the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Bingo.

[JDC]

I still call them Nazi..

Panda and I do not usually agree on some things, but right now I think both of us are wholly agreeing on something...

That aside, the Nazi party was one of many factions during the time of the Weimar republic. Just because they controlled Germany during WW2, that does not mean they were the same constituency or majority thereof in WW1.

Not the larger majority of the world, but any modernised countries with the slighest bit of brain can prevent terrorism.

Kindly explain what "slightest bit of brain" is and how exactly it can prevent the mixture of political / ideological discontent and violence into the root of terrorism.

Right, so when you find a nuke that is small and light enough to fit into a terrorists back pack and be smuggled over many countries to get to it's final destination, let me know.

Who said it has to be small as a backpack? With the prevalence of corruption in many customs' departments, things even as large as cars can be smuggled without so much of a proper thorough inspection if you had the right connections.

Look at Europe please, only 2 of it's countries in it have nuclear weapons and that is the UK and France, however most countries in Europe have anti-missile technology so even if Pakistan (the only Islamic country with nuclear weapons) were to launch a missile at Russia, the UK or any other country for that matter it would likely be shot down before it reaches anywhere near the edge of Europe or Russia, if not even while it's still inside Pakistan.

A terrorist organization with the right connections and tactics will obviously not use a nuke from a country that has none, but will procure/steal one from a country that has. Not to mention common sense will tell them not to launch it from thousands of kilometers away where it can be shot down by anyone, but to sneak it to a nearby and ideal launch point.


If you still do not get the message, then try and realize how professing in logic regarding things (physics, economics, politics) you actually know little about makes you look ridiculous.

[Mikal]

Panda and I do not usually agree on some things, but right now I think both of us are wholly agreeing on something...

I think you'll find Panda isn't the only one.

That aside, the Nazi party was one of many factions during the time of the Weimar republic. Just because they controlled Germany during WW2, that does not mean they were the same constituency or majority thereof in WW1.

And yet I'll still call them Nazi's..

Kindly explain what "slightest bit of brain" is and how exactly it can prevent the mixture of political / ideological discontent and violence into the root of terrorism.

What I meant by that is, any organised, modernised country which actually has control of it's borders and government agencies can prevent terrorism from breaking out, as countries like the UK does today, just before the 2012 olympics there was a 4 man terror plot foiled in which they planned to attack the olympic events, this is what I mean by 'slightest bit of brain.'

Who said it has to be small as a backpack? With the prevalence of corruption in many customs' departments, things even as large as cars can be smuggled without so much of a proper thorough inspection if you had the right connections.

Well, do you know how big a nuke is? Cars yes, cars are not in the slightest bit suspicious unless you actually know what ones are linked to criminal activity or terror, I think if you tried to smuggle a nuke into any country 'with the slightest bit of brain' you'd have a bit of a problem, even with the right connections, customs staff don't work alone and so cannot assist you to smuggle a nuke in on their own, unless it's a country like some of those on the African continent or middle east..

A terrorist organization with the right connections and tactics will obviously not use a nuke from a country that has none, but will procure/steal one from a country that has. Not to mention common sense will tell them not to launch it from thousands of kilometers away where it can be shot down by anyone, but to sneak it to a nearby and ideal launch point.

Connections connections, no matter how many you have you'd have to be the fucking president to actually steal a nuke, real life isn't an episode of the A-Team, fuck me.

If you still do not get the message, then try and realize how professing in logic regarding things (physics, economics, politics) you actually know little about makes you look ridiculous.

Look who's talking.

[JDC]

And yet I'll still call them Nazi's..

Would you like the regular aluminum tinfoil hat or the deluxe edition?

What I meant by that is, any organised, modernised country which actually has control of it's borders and government agencies can prevent terrorism from breaking out, as countries like the UK does today, just before the 2012 olympics there was a 4 man terror plot foiled in which they planned to attack the olympic events, this is what I mean by 'slightest bit of brain.'

You'll find that the real world is far more complex and socio-political conditions far more diverse than what you have seen in the UK.

Well, do you know how big a nuke is? Cars yes, cars are not in the slightest bit suspicious unless you actually know what ones are linked to criminal activity or terror, I think if you tried to smuggle a nuke into any country 'with the slightest bit of brain' you'd have a bit of a problem, even with the right connections, customs staff don't work alone and so cannot assist you to smuggle a nuke in on their own, unless it's a country like some of those on the African continent or middle east..

You have not travelled much outside of the UK, have you?

Look who's talking.

Certainly not the guy who thinks Imperial Germany was run by the Nazis and that nuking Mecca will not cause problems for non-Islamic countries.

[Mikal]

Would you like the regular aluminum tinfoil hat or the deluxe edition?

Aluminium!

You'll find that the real world is far more complex and socio-political conditions far more diverse than what you have seen in the UK.

Yes but we were talking about the UK originally.

You have not travelled much outside of the UK, have you?

Only to Ireland.

Certainly not the guy who thinks Imperial Germany was run by the Nazis and that nuking Mecca will not cause problems for non-Islamic countries.

I said I call them Nazi's regardless, wether they were or weren't that's just what I call them, how long will it take you to realise that?

[Maxy]

I said I call them Nazi's regardless, wether they were or weren't that's just what I call them, how long will it take you to realise that?

When you realize that doing that is incredibly stupid, and that you're being prejudiced against an entire group of people with no affiliation to the NSDAP. You're basically stereotyping my entire nation and that is against the forum rules, because it could be considered a form of racism.

You idiot.

[Pandalink]

Panda and I do not usually agree on some things, but right now I think both of us are wholly agreeing on something...

It isn't even about agreeing, we're just stating historical facts.

Come on Mikal, I don't even need my 20th century history GCSE to know this shit.

I said I call them Nazi's regardless, wether they were or weren't that's just what I call them, how long will it take you to realise that?

But that's wrong.