Lets get real.

[Kaley]

This topic is supposed to be locked when it is created. (you still got time #YOLO)

[Mr. Goobii]

This topic is supposed to be locked when it is created. (you still got time #YOLO)

No, just no.

[JDC]

This topic is supposed to be locked when it is created. (you still got time #YOLO)

Admins lock topics, people complain OMG ADMINS restrict freedom of speech!
Admins do not lock topics, people complain of too much moaning and other shit.

Ironic, one of the most consistent things here is inconsistency.

[Devin]

We do not lock topics unnecessarily to allow community members and visitors to communicate and bring their point of the matter across as long as it remains at a respectable level.

Even a topic like this you may feel it's worth locking however it will end up with another similar topic being created at the end of the day.

[Stivi]

it will end up with another similar topic being created at the end of the day.

But this was created by Gandalf, he's one hell of a topic-hunter.

[Miller786]

In my opinion official mafias should no longer be official

Thank you.

[Harry]

Thank you.

Could you give me a good reason, why not?

[Jaka_Lah]

Could you give me a good reason, why not?

I mean there is a point which Zaila made in that official mafias should get re selected on a new game mode.. but what's the point of having an drug system that requires official mafias, they kinda shot themselves in the foot with that one but that just means that official groups will get selected sooner as the drug system needs to be functioning or there is no point in having one.. As the FBI is able to steal from official groups HQ..

[Devin]

I mean there is a point which Zaila made in that official mafias should get re selected on a new game mode.. but what's the point of having an drug system that requires official mafias, they kinda shot themselves in the foot with that one but that just means that official groups will get selected sooner as the drug system needs to be functioning or there is no point in having one.. As the FBI is able to steal from official groups HQ..

Recent changes to the drug systems means now any member of a criminal group is able to sell drugs to the drug market. 

[Jaka_Lah]

Recent changes to the drug systems means now any member of a criminal group is able to sell drugs to the drug market. 

Well it would be more fun if just the strongest biggest mafias ruled the market, but oh well some times compensation is necessary, and now gives smaller groups the chance to feel more importance than in RS4 where there were four main families..

[Mikal]

Well it would be more fun if just the strongest biggest mafias ruled the market, but oh well some times compensation is necessary, and now gives smaller groups the chance to feel more importance than in RS4 where there were four main families..

Are you trying to say only mafias are in the drug business? I think you'll find most of real mafia's money comes from other criminal activities.

[Devin]

Well it would be more fun if just the strongest biggest mafias ruled the market, but oh well some times compensation is necessary, and now gives smaller groups the chance to feel more importance than in RS4 where there were four main families..

Once groups are established I am sure things could be adjusted back to the original method however there needs to be some form of economic stimulation for players and groups to prosper which is a positive factor of allowing all criminal group members to now use the drug market to sell their produce.

[Frank_Hawk]

Let’s step back for a second.

The developers have worked diligently in putting RS5 together. From what I’ve seen – the technical design is impressive, identifying and actively resolving commons flaws of RS4 including the lag we all came to resent. I would not doubt the heart of the developers since they have invested more selfless effort than many of us put together. In view of this, the owner did the right thing by taking full ownership of the functional design of RS5 including bearing responsibility behind the ideas that have been controversially unpopular among the community.

In my opinion, RS5 was not as successful as our past releases because fundamentally it lost the spirit and flare that its predecessors RS4, RS3 etc had boasted. The landscape was refreshed both spiritually and materialistically. The leadership/owner did not it seems anticipate that this sudden radicalisation of the community would result in the upheaval we witness today.

Added to the loss of spirit and flare of RS5 – there are external factors which have contributed to our spectacular downfall from grace many of which are outside of the leadership/owner control including the deterioration of SA:MP and arm’s length management of the server. All of which formed the perfect storm.

Fundamentally, we could analyse what went wrong for a long time and I would (with the benefit of time) be at the forefront of assisting the leadership/owner with a root cause analysis. However, with time against us and continuing deterioration of our community - corrective action is needed now.

We need to understand the problems first which I’d encourage the community to assist on:

-   Economic stagnation
-   Group and families stagnation
-   Removal of existing/previous functionality from RS4

Proposed solutions to address the issues above:

-   Frequent but proportionate economic stimulus
-   Funding to official and key unofficial groups to spur recruitment activity
-   Assessing the removal and reintroduction of functionality from RS4

Ultimately, we need to put our egos aside and fight together for the survival of this community.

How about some solutions instead of problems?

Anybody wish to contribute?

[BarelyVisible]

Are you trying to say only mafias are in the drug business? I think you'll find most of real mafia's money comes from other criminal activities.

Such as illegal gambling and whatnot.

That being said I've always preferred to play the role of "the friendly neighborhood pot dealer". I'd feel rather boxed in if I was forced to join a "Mafia" to feel as if anything I did mattered from an RP perspective.

[eymas]

Groups such as these "mafias" often tend to derail unless properly organized, I would love to see one that has a clean white sheet for one.