Lets get real.

[Lustigkurre]

They should open an RS4 server with everyone's assets and see if all the players return, then you'll know for sure wether RS5 is the problem or not, it may well have just been the 'We dont care what you say, if you don't like it get out of the community' act but you never know.

yes

[Mikal]

Yes because black mailing firemen to give you money or you will tell sugard that the fireman has not extinguished 100% firemission and gambling with firemen that only care for money is very profitable and a very amazing thing to do. I'm so excited...

And you're in a mafia?

[AK47]

They should open an RS4 server with everyone's assets and see if all the players return, then you'll know for sure wether RS5 is the problem or not, it may well have just been the 'We dont care what you say, if you don't like it get out of the community' act but you never know.

Yes 

[Stivi]

And if rs5 is the problem ? You're either way not getting rs4 back, permanently.

[Mikal]

And if rs5 is the problem ? You're either way not getting rs4 back, permanently.

Well if RS5 is the problem what is the point in keeping it?

[eymas]

Well if RS5 is the problem what is the point in keeping it?

Because it's not the problem.

I hope I do not have to explain why as it's rather clear, and stated before.

[Rusty]

Less negativity over RS5 and help provide solutions to a existing problem, we're supposed to be a community but since RS5's release it looks like we've been venturing into another direction instead. 

[Mikal]

Because it's not the problem.

I hope I do not have to explain why as it's rather clear, and stated before.

Right so you're going to say the players are the problem or? RS4 = 100+ players. RS5 = 10+ players...

[Devin]

Right so you're going to say the players are the problem or? RS4 = 100+ players. RS5 = 10+ players...

More so the constant negativity, refusal to provide worthwhile complaints that can be worked on and of course, the lack of willingness to work for items.

[Bundy]

More so the constant negativity, refusal to provide worthwhile complaints that can be worked on and of course, the lack of willingness to work for items.

*The players.

[Mikal]

constant negativity, refusal to provide worthwhile complaints that can be worked on and of course, lack of willingness to work for items.

All of which RS5 caused..

[Devin]

Sure if you want to say that, we have provided solutions to problems that were brought up, we worked on and are still working on ways to change the systems when players had issues with it and still, negativity is around.

[Manoni]

Right so you're going to say the players are the problem or? RS4 = 100+ players. RS5 = 10+ players...

They decided to leave with the new system. Don't expect that just because they don't want to start over again the staff is going to yield under their whims

[Mikal]

Sure if you want to say that, we have provided solutions to problems that were brought up, we worked on and are still working on ways to change the systems when players had issues with it and still, negativity is around.

I would happily play RS5 right now, but I'm banned, so I can't but it doesn't change the fact that most of the community are not happy with RS5 and that it has caused major loss of players, no matter how much anyone says "It's the players it's the players" nothing is changing and the community is still losing members, it's like it's back to RS1, whatever that was like, I assume it was simple/buggy scripts and lack of players, at the end of the day it's pretty clear that creating RS5 was the wrong choice no matter how much the players which have now left wanted it, RS4 should have been kept and changed by removing bugs, adding better scripts and ways to influence more roleplay.

They decided to leave with the new system. Don't expect that just because they don't want to start over again the staff is going to yield under their whims

I don't expect that and anyone who did leave because they lost their assets should just piss off anyway as they are the ones who caused the loss of RP, fact is RS5 isn't what everyone expected and it was released way to soon.

[Teddy]

so I can't

You can't follow the rules.. that's why you're banned. We want quality members in our community. How you're still here is honestly beyond me. But you do bring up a somewhat decent point in saying:

RS5 isn't what everyone expected

this is true, RS5 isn't what everyone expected because everyone expected something different. We had the lid sealed quite well on RS5. While also speaking not everyone is going to enjoy every part; most of the people complaining hardly even played or took any effort to learn. I'll be honest I only worked on one part of RS5 and I didn't know/understand the rest of it at first. I don't like all of it myself; we were told to write something a certain way and there was no if, ands, or buts. Obviously some disagreements would take place.

People don't like change; it takes time for people to come around. Just give a go. Honestly. Except for you Mikal, you can go off somewhere else.