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Former Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon dies at 85

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Reply #120 on: January 13, 2014, 11:35:51 pm
Judaism was there long before Islam. Who is talking here about stealing something and trying to make it their own?

Islam is not a follow-up to Christian religion, more of a parallel development as the christians moved more towards Europe where the obtained power. Later religion that were basod on the orthodox Christianity are Catholicism, Protestantism and Jehovah's witnesses.
Protestants and Jehovah's are younger as Islam, their claim to be the youngest is false.

As for the comment about Mohamed, please show me where in the Torah he is mentioned.
Where did Judaism show up at first?

Strategic importance to protect against possible attacks.
Let's go on with this. You will take Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt for the protection against the attacks? Logic.



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Reply #121 on: January 13, 2014, 11:58:44 pm
Strategic importance to protect against possible attacks.
This still isn't a proper reason.



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Reply #122 on: January 14, 2014, 12:44:35 am
This song explains everything.  I hope you all find out a way to translate it.
 



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Reply #123 on: January 14, 2014, 01:26:17 am
I really don't get how people can find such joy in the death of others, even if they did terrible things throughout their life. The death of a leader or former leader won't change anything, they'll just get a new one and move on. The people who are REALLY making all of the decisions are behind the scenes, you don't hear about them. Presidents, Kings, Dictators are merely public leaders, their highest staff members are the ones you should be worrying about.


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Reply #124 on: January 14, 2014, 01:41:27 am
A word of warning, this topic isn't the place to be insulting religion, race etc.
Please keep the topic with decent realms of politics and religions.

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Reply #125 on: January 14, 2014, 02:25:48 am
Fact nr1: The Jewish religion is much older as the Muslim one. The religion was based around the area where Israel was founded in 1948.



BULLSHIT!, Islam was founded before any other religion was. To be more precise... people misunderstood the mesage of jesus christ and moses. Please state one verse of Bible or Torah in which either one of them states that worship me or i am the god and if you will be succcesful in finding one ill be ready to convert


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Reply #126 on: January 14, 2014, 04:28:13 am
BULLSHIT!

Can you not read?

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Reply #127 on: January 14, 2014, 08:02:42 am

BULLSHIT!, Islam was founded before any other religion was. To be more precise... people misunderstood the mesage of jesus christ and moses. Please state one verse of Bible or Torah in which either one of them states that worship me or i am the god and if you will be succcesful in finding one ill be ready to convert
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/fastfacts.htm
http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/fastfacts.htm
That's one fact. When I will come back from school I will provide you plenty of other resources to prove you else. I can't even understand how you can say that.



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Reply #128 on: January 14, 2014, 09:58:55 am
Where did Judaism show up at first?
Does that matter for proof of age? We know exactly when Islam was founded, more or less when christianity appeared and that Judaism existed at the time both were founded. We also know when the Catholic Church broke away from the Orthodox, and when the Protestant movement started, as well as when Jehovah's witness started.
Investigate the facts.

And where is that line in the Torah about Mohamed?

Let's go on with this. You will take Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt for the protection against the attacks? Logic.
first of all, I am not Israel, so do not use ýou'.
The Sinai is a place from where it is easy to attack Israel, and as at the time relations with Egypt were not friendly taking this area prevented attacks being launched. It was returned at the time relations became more friendly, however if Egypt will think of being agressive or allow terrorist groupt to attack from there Israel might attempt to regain it.


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Reply #129 on: January 14, 2014, 10:13:09 am

BULLSHIT!, Islam was founded before any other religion was. To be more precise... people misunderstood the mesage of jesus christ and moses. Please state one verse of Bible or Torah in which either one of them states that worship me or i am the god and if you will be succcesful in finding one ill be ready to convert
There is no Jesus Christ in the Torah, of you do not know that it is time you educate yourself.
Instead of asking queations and trying to prove "your" God is better, how about educating yourself by reading about all religions, and questioning yourself from where your belief comes.

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Reply #130 on: January 14, 2014, 10:18:01 am
Instead of asking queations and trying to prove "your" God is better, how about educating yourself by reading about all religions, and questioning yourself from where your belief comes.
Ok this is.. It's that. It's what most of people don't understand. The point.

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Reply #131 on: January 14, 2014, 10:50:50 am
There is no Jesus Christ in the Torah, of you do not know that it is time you educate yourself.
Instead of asking queations and trying to prove "your" God is better, how about educating yourself by reading about all religions, and questioning yourself from where your belief comes.
How if I already read and learned about allof the religions (except hindus) You also didn't answer my question;  where did yhe Judaism show up?



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Reply #132 on: January 14, 2014, 12:37:32 pm
How if I already read and learned about allof the religions (except hindus) You also didn't answer my question;  where did yhe Judaism show up?
If you did you would not make rather silly statements.
The first references of the existence of Judaism were made by the Egyptians. As fas as I know the oldest archeological discoveries linked directly ro Judaism are from around 1000BCE.

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Reply #133 on: January 14, 2014, 12:39:30 pm
So glad to be an Atheist right now  :lol:



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Reply #134 on: January 14, 2014, 12:53:40 pm
If you did you would not make rather silly statements.
The first references of the existence of Judaism were made by the Egyptians. As fas as I know the oldest archeological discoveries linked directly ro Judaism are from around 1000BCE.
This proves that one of us got wrong informations and only the time will discover who was right.
Exactly, so why Israël didn't take Egypt instead of Palestine?



 


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