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Reply #165 on: January 14, 2014, 03:54:58 pm
If that's true, why would they kill children and rape the women in their own houses? IF that's true where was the people who were living there? From where did they come ha?
Don't worry there are spys and betrayers in FATH and HAMAS who work for Israël.



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Reply #166 on: January 14, 2014, 04:06:42 pm
If that's true, why would they kill children and rape the women in their own houses? IF that's true where was the people who were living there? From where did they come ha?
Don't worry there are spys and betrayers in FATH and HAMAS who work for Israël.
Typical. Anyone who is wrong is declared to be enemy, as doing wrong within one's own ranks is deemed impossible.

What is the punishment in your country for someone who declares no longer to follow the Islam?

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Reply #167 on: January 14, 2014, 04:13:44 pm
Typical. Anyone who is wrong is declared to be enemy, as doing wrong within one's own ranks is deemed impossible.

What is the punishment in your country for someone who declares no longer to follow the Islam?
If he didn't disrespect the Islam nothing will happen.
Being wrong about something doesn't mean that it's the end of the world, we actually should learn from it. If you do a mistake and get killed that only shows how the government follows the rules of wild animals.



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Reply #168 on: January 14, 2014, 04:15:47 pm
While you (purposedly?) ignore facts of Israel's breach of human rights laws in several sectors, you only focus on what Palestinians do, in order to be able to lay your finger and say "IT'S SELF DEFENCE GUYS!! GUYS!". You really expect taking land of others for the sole purpose of religion and not expect any backfire?
It's you who seem to be narrow-minded by my side.

Under 18 year olds are frequently involved in lethal acts, ranging from the hurling of boulders at civilians cars to murder.
With the Palestinian Authority unable or unwilling to meet its obligation to investigate and prosecute these offences, Israel has no choice but to do so itself.



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Reply #169 on: January 14, 2014, 04:30:01 pm
If that were true, why would the Jewish disagree?
I recently had a discussion with a Muslim who tried to tell me that every God is simply another manifestation of the Muslim God.
Unfortunately he was unfamiliar with Bacchus, the god alcoholic beverages.

Taking the arrival of an announced prophet from a religion and labeling Mohamed on that to make a match is a misleading and false practice. As you may know the natives in South America had a belief that bearded gods would come from the East, and considered Cortez to be the fulfillment. According to you they were waiting for Mohamed  ;)
Not saying that it was Mohammed, Jewish people disagree because they always had and you might know the reason. I am not going into detail about this. Also never said Mohammed was a god, so no.. they weren't waiting for Mohammed according to me. Jesus and Moses both at different time period arrived to spread the message of Islam, Jewish and Christian people both misunderstood them too badly(talking about each individual).
Thats exactly what a muslim IRL told me! Which doesn't make sense since Islam came after Christianity and such.
Nope, Islam was their since the beginning. Jesus christ came to earth to spread the message of islam but people who followed him claimed him as a Son of God(or God) after he died which is false. Jesus never claimed him self Son of God nor him being a god. Same with Mosses. Mohammed isn't a god, he was the last messenger of god who was also spreading Islam. Please, i am not claiming that my religion is the best, do what you feel. I respect all religion, and i have no intention to disrespect you or your religion.


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Reply #170 on: January 14, 2014, 04:51:37 pm
If that's true, why would they kill children and rape the women in their own houses? IF that's true where was the people who were living there? From where did they come ha?
Don't worry there are spys and betrayers in FATH and HAMAS who work for Israël.

Spoiler for Hiden:
Well okay if you want to go that direction:

http://www.mpacuk.org/sites/default/files/palestine_land_map.jpg
>self defence
>b-but muh religion

http://www.palestineremembered.com/images/dailymail_humanshield.jpg



These are just from searching "Israel war" on youtube. If you really want enlightement, you may look further yourself. There are some interesting documentaries too, should be scattered all around the internet.  :gand:
We are in 2014...I thought that people would know recognizing between some editied video and a real one, yet it still though.. well, you can still know what have manipulation in it and what doesn't... those kind of videos are 99.9% of manipulation and 0.1% of footage, quite clear why you support and believe them now.
Each one of you completely ignore cause and effect, and only using the "effect", which is wrong and manipulated, to show others you are correct.



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Reply #171 on: January 14, 2014, 04:59:12 pm
Glad I'm Russian and not living in R.F.



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Reply #172 on: January 14, 2014, 05:05:48 pm
Glad I'm Russian and not living in R.F.
Edo lives in Belgium, lol.

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Reply #173 on: January 14, 2014, 05:08:57 pm
Edo lives in Belgium, lol.
just saying, trust me I remember where people join from. point is, some countries also manipulate against israel, well that will turn against them sometime.



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Reply #174 on: January 14, 2014, 05:14:26 pm
Not saying that it was Mohammed, Jewish people disagree because they always had and you might know the reason. I am not going into detail about this. Also never said Mohammed was a god, so no.. they weren't waiting for Mohammed according to me. Jesus and Moses both at different time period arrived to spread the message of Islam, Jewish and Christian people both misunderstood them too badly(talking about each individual).Nope, Islam was their since the beginning. Jesus christ came to earth to spread the message of islam but people who followed him claimed him as a Son of God(or God) after he died which is false. Jesus never claimed him self Son of God nor him being a god. Same with Mosses. Mohammed isn't a god, he was the last messenger of god who was also spreading Islam. Please, i am not claiming that my religion is the best, do what you feel. I respect all religion, and i have no intention to disrespect you or your religion.
Islam started with the teachings of Mohamed. It makes no sense that anyone as powerful as God would need to make several attempts to get it right. To say that they continue the earlier teachings is like a new server on SAMOP telling they continue the work of Argonath.
Read John:16 where Jesus mentions he is the Son of God.

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Reply #175 on: January 14, 2014, 05:16:02 pm
just saying, trust me I remember where people join from.
Trust me, Edo lives in Belgium. :)

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Reply #176 on: January 14, 2014, 05:17:50 pm
Islam started with the teachings of Mohamed.
Nope :)

In fact, Mohamed was the last prophet sent to spread the Islam over the people, as he succeeded.
Islam began with our very first prophet; Adam.

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Reply #177 on: January 14, 2014, 05:24:18 pm
Karl Marx: "Religion is the opiate of the masses."
now stop blablabla about religions and talk real.



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Reply #178 on: January 14, 2014, 05:31:30 pm
Karl Marx: "Religion is the opiate of the masses."
now stop blablabla about religions and talk real.
Right. An agreement will never be made until such a time when both sides pull their heads out of their religious books and get around the table.

Both of these religions are, in their teachings, religions of peace but it seems that people wish to do the exact opposite of what their faith teaches them. Bullets don't solve political issues, talking does.



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Reply #179 on: January 14, 2014, 05:35:02 pm
Please lock this topic it is really leading to something taht is off the topic, I stopped reading this since page 7 i think :P

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