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Reply #180 on: January 14, 2014, 05:42:37 pm
Please lock this topic it is really leading to something taht is off the topic, I stopped reading this since page 7 i think :P

It isn't off topic. It has everything to do with this death (known for good things, bad things, etc so I saw on the news when this was announced). However, inappropiate posts insulting religions intentionally etc will be deleted and probably forum punishment will subside with it, should it be required.

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Reply #181 on: January 14, 2014, 06:05:53 pm
Nope :)

In fact, Mohamed was the last prophet sent to spread the Islam over the people, as he succeeded.
Islam began with our very first prophet; Adam.
That is what Mohamed said. Before him nobody ever mentioned Islam in any book.

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Reply #182 on: January 14, 2014, 06:14:56 pm
The Spread of Islam began when prophet Muhammad started preaching the revelation he claimed to have received from God at the age of 40. During his lifetime the Muslim ummah was established in Arabia by way of their conversion or allegiance to Islam. Muslim conquests in the first centuries after Muhammad's death led to the creation of caliphates, political and spiritual entities, where only believers of Abrahamic religions were allowed to keep their faith, albeit with higher taxes and other limitations, and conversion to Islam was encouraged through multiple means. These early conquests, and later through contact with Muslim traders and Ottoman Empire conquests, resulted in the spread of Islam from Mecca to the Atlantic Ocean in the west, and eastward to the Pacific Ocean, and the creation of a Muslim world.


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Reply #183 on: January 14, 2014, 06:15:28 pm
That is what Mohamed said. Before him nobody ever mentioned Islam in any book.
Monotheism.



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Reply #184 on: January 14, 2014, 06:39:54 pm
That is what Mohamed said. Before him nobody ever mentioned Islam in any book.
Books were rare in the time of the prophet Mohamed (pbuh), let alone before his time :lol:

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Reply #185 on: January 14, 2014, 06:54:16 pm
Monotheism.
Monotheism is not Islam.

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Reply #186 on: January 14, 2014, 06:56:44 pm
Books were rare in the time of the prophet Mohamed (pbuh), let alone before his time :lol:
Rare yes, but still they existed.

Besides how can you claim Islam is the younger religion and at the same time claim it was there from the start?
If it was there it is not younger or older as any other religion that shares the same story. If it is younger, it was not there at the time.

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Reply #187 on: January 14, 2014, 07:04:44 pm


Besides how can you claim Islam is the younger religion and at the same time claim it was there from the start?
If it was there it is not younger or older as any other religion that shares the same story. If it is younger, it was not there at the time.
The story between GOD , Adam and Eva answers your question, have you ever read about it?



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Reply #188 on: January 14, 2014, 07:06:43 pm
Rare yes, but still they existed.

Besides how can you claim Islam is the younger religion and at the same time claim it was there from the start?
If it was there it is not younger or older as any other religion that shares the same story. If it is younger, it was not there at the time.
I never claimed it was the younger religion, this is what lots of  ignorant people think, try googling 'when did islam start' and see how many people think it began with Mohamed (pbuh).

An example:
The Spread of Islam began when prophet Muhammad started preaching the revelation he claimed to have received from God at the age of 40. During his lifetime the Muslim ummah was established in Arabia by way of their conversion or allegiance to Islam. Muslim conquests in the first centuries after Muhammad's death led to the creation of caliphates, political and spiritual entities, where only believers of Abrahamic religions were allowed to keep their faith, albeit with higher taxes and other limitations, and conversion to Islam was encouraged through multiple means. These early conquests, and later through contact with Muslim traders and Ottoman Empire conquests, resulted in the spread of Islam from Mecca to the Atlantic Ocean in the west, and eastward to the Pacific Ocean, and the creation of a Muslim world.


Alhamdulillah

And indeed, many religions oftenly share the same stories, but through all the translations and misconceptions, it seems different. Pretty much the same as the whisper game, lol.

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Reply #189 on: January 14, 2014, 08:06:05 pm
The story between GOD , Adam and Eva answers your question, have you ever read about it?
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Reply #190 on: January 14, 2014, 08:18:56 pm
The story between GOD , Adam and Eva answers your question, have you ever read about it?
Of course. I do hope you know that this has to be a metaphore, as there is something named evolution.

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Reply #191 on: January 14, 2014, 08:23:15 pm
I never claimed it was the younger religion, this is what lots of  ignorant people think, try googling 'when did islam start' and see how many people think it began with Mohamed (pbuh).
In fact those people are correct. While the stories he based it upon may have been older (better a good steal as creating a bad thing) there is no historic reference to the name before his appearance in history.

An example:
And indeed, many religions oftenly share the same stories, but through all the translations and misconceptions, it seems different. Pretty much the same as the whisper game, lol.
Do you know what the whisper game proves? And if so, how you you campare that?

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Reply #192 on: January 14, 2014, 08:25:00 pm
I never claimed it was the younger religion, this is what lots of  ignorant people think, try googling 'when did islam start' and see how many people think it began with Mohamed (pbuh).


So from who did the Islam start if not from Mohammed?



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Reply #193 on: January 14, 2014, 08:27:51 pm
Monotheism is not Islam.
Monotheism is islam, judaism, christs and every religion which returns to ONE God (Allah) they are just in different names, so they are originally the same. :)



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Reply #194 on: January 14, 2014, 08:28:39 pm
So from who did the Islam start if not from Mohammed?
Adam.



 


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