Ukraine's capital is literally revolting

[zipp3r]

Did you even read the very line you just quoted? Guess you missed it. If Russia is to stage a direct armed invasion of Ukraine, they would immediately get blasted by the western side of the world (Or E.U + NATO...) who would advocate bans to the South aswell. However if russia is to slowly take Crimea, it will not give the west  (Or E.U + NATO..) enough momentum to pursuade the U.N and hence the south.

xaxaaxaxxaaxaaxxa plz xDDD

[EliteTerm]

Report: Russian soldiers storm Ukrainian military base in Crimea

[Antonio.]

Report: Russian soldiers storm Ukrainian military base in Crimea

You're a bit late.

[EliteTerm]

You're a bit late.

Meh, I've been sorta staying out of this discussion so I might be a bit slow, but my opinion for this is pretty much the same as Syria: We need to stay out of it.

[Exterminator]

Later than elite, just found it.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/.premium-1.577759

So in the end, not only does Russia get Crimea, but also free fighter planes and warships. Yay!

“This region was always part of Russia, and it has strategic importance,” said Alexander Ivanov. “In the past, we fought Turkey here, and if necessary, we’ll fight them again in the future. We must have this port. Even if we need to fight NATO.”

"Also Monday, Russian military activity spread beyond Crimea and eastern Ukraine, as Russia commenced a large military drill opposite the shores of Kaliningrad, a small Russian enclave between Poland and Lithuania – both of which belong to the NATO alliance. Some 3,500 Baltic Fleet soldiers took part in the drill. Kaliningrad is of strategic importance to Russia because it’s the only northern port it has that doesn’t freeze over in winter."

I wonder who lithuania is gonna threaten

[zipp3r]

The Chetniks officially became part of the army of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. They've got a various duties from patrolling to checking vehicles and passengers at the checkpoints. They said that they do not carry guns, but if necessary, they will.

[Exterminator]

The Chetniks officially became part of the army of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. They've got a various duties from patrolling to checking vehicles and passengers at the checkpoints. They said that they do not carry guns, but if necessary, they will.

Yep, cause anarchy of maidan protestors rules ukraine   

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

IF NATO had the right to do the same with Kosovo, than Russia has with Crimea.
IF CRIMEA AND KOSOVO have the right to become seperate countries, so do SCOTLAND and TEXAS.

Now WHY is it allowed for Brit's and 'Muricans to stop their land's from breaking away, BUT NOT ALLOWED for Serbia and Ukraine?

Also 'Murican's have no land that is actually theirs, they did a genocide and almoast killed an entire human race (indians) and stole a fucking continend from them!

[KhornateMonkey]

SCOTLAND

Now WHY is it allowed for Brit's to stop their land's from breaking away

A referendum on whether Scotland should be an independent country and leave the United Kingdom will take place on Thursday 18 September 2014, following an agreement between the Scottish Government and the United Kingdom Government.

[Exterminator]

IF NATO had the right to do the same with Kosovo, than Russia has with Crimea.
IF CRIMEA AND KOSOVO have the right to become seperate countries, so do SCOTLAND and TEXAS.

Now WHY is it allowed for Brit's and 'Muricans to stop their land's from breaking away, BUT NOT ALLOWED for Serbia and Ukraine?

Also 'Murican's have no land that is actually theirs, they did a genocide and almoast killed an entire human race (indians) and stole a f**king continend from them!

Shhh
All the answers are in bumba

http://goo.gl/rTS5vk

[Comrade]

If Russia is to stage a direct armed invasion of Ukraine, they would immediately get blasted by the western side of the world (Or E.U + NATO...) who would advocate bans to the South aswell.

Implying Russia has no one to support them. Russia won't go for a direct armed invasion of Ukraine, not in a million years. But if, for some reason, a war would break out then China and even North Korea (the whole country is basically a military base, must not be underestimated) would offer to help Russia.

The only thing the West can do is get UN to force Putin out. If UN's sanctions go trough then Russia will be blocked from pretty much all trade with the West and Europe. However Russia is rich on resources and they will still be able to trade with China, not to mention the fact that China would VETO those sanctions anyway.

While I do think Putin has lost some sense over the years, I'd much rather leave Crimea to him. Crimea and even Ukraine are people of the same culture, traditions and values as the Russians and it pains me deeply that they are in a conflict, especially since I've got family ties on both sides. With the Ukrainian government in a state of anarchy I'd rather let Putin handle Crimea than NATO or EU.

[Exterminator]

Implying Russia has no one to support them. Russia won't go for a direct armed invasion of Ukraine, not in a million years. But if, for some reason, a war would break out then China and even North Korea (the whole country is basically a military base, must not be underestimated) would offer to help Russia.

The only thing the West can do is get UN to force Putin out. If UN's sanctions go trough then Russia will be blocked from pretty much all trade with the West and Europe. However Russia is rich on resources and they will still be able to trade with China, not to mention the fact that China would VETO those sanctions anyway.

While I do think Putin has lost some sense over the years, I'd much rather leave Crimea to him. Crimea and even Ukraine are people of the same culture, traditions and values as the Russians and it pains me deeply that they are in a conflict, especially since I've got family ties on both sides. With the Ukrainian government in a state of anarchy I'd rather let Putin handle Crimea than NATO or EU.

I agree with Putin being better equipped to handle Crimea, seeing as the Ukrainian Govt. clearly failed to control the masses there. That doesn't mean i'm in favor of crimean integration into the R.F though.
Crimeans may want to integrate into Russia, but that doesn't mean Russia has any right to storm into Ukraine and try to take Crimea. It's the message. You can't just walk into another country and take a large chunk of it because the other country is not strong enough to put up a fight. Putin's being a bully, who's to say China won't walk into India and just take a major chunk of it following Putin's lead.

If crimea really want to secede from Ukraine, they should properly identify that with the Ukrainian government. Directly trying to leave by means of armed Invasion is not the way to go.

Also while Russia would be isolated from both the American and European sides, it wouldn't be too hard to convince south asian countries (Except China ofc) and maybe even australia to follow Suit. Assuming Russia goes with a armed invasion that is.

Though again, what Russia is doing is wrong. For the most part Crimea is a semi autonomous republic and faced little threat from what was going on in East Ukraine, there was no need for them to ask Russia to invade. They should of informed the Ukrainian parliament and properly fought for their right to secede. If the Ukrainian parliament failed to recognize Crimea's wishes then Russia's actions can be justified for once.

[Comrade]

I agree with Putin being better equipped to handle Crimea, seeing as the Ukrainian Govt. clearly failed to control the masses there. That doesn't mean i'm in favor of crimean integration into the R.F though.
Crimeans may want to integrate into Russia, but that doesn't mean Russia has any right to storm into Ukraine and try to take Crimea. It's the message. You can't just walk into another country and take a large chunk of it because the other country is not strong enough to put up a fight. Putin's being a bully, who's to say China won't walk into India and just take a major chunk of it following Putin's lead.

If crimea really want to secede from Ukraine, they should properly identify that with the Ukrainian government. Directly trying to leave by means of armed Invasion is not the way to go.

Also while Russia would be isolated from both the American and European sides, it wouldn't be too hard to convince south asian countries (Except China ofc) and maybe even australia to follow Suit. Assuming Russia goes with a armed invasion that is.

Though again, what Russia is doing is wrong. For the most part Crimea is a semi autonomous republic and faced little threat from what was going on in East Ukraine, there was no need for them to ask Russia to invade. They should of informed the Ukrainian parliament and properly fought for their right to secede. If the Ukrainian parliament failed to recognize Crimea's wishes then Russia's actions can be justified for once.

You keep talking about the Ukranian government but it frankly has none left. The rebels (who are a minority, mind you) forced the President to bail country and then took control, only because he was collaborating with Putin. Putin himself considers Janukovitj the rightful leader of Ukraine (and I wouldn't be surprised if he's somewhere in Russia) and has moved in to defend the Russian citizens in Crimea. Not to mention the fact that the majority of Ukraine agrees with all of this, but the West paints another picture with the minority in focus.

He himself claims that he didn't send any troops, he just allowed those already stationed in Crimea to take action. Whether that is the whole truth or not is irrelevant, what is important is that The West should keep their hypocritical nose out of this. NATO has done this countless of times, but when Putin does it he is antagonised. Luckily he is a smart man and has figured out that the West is all bark and no bite. Even if the West tries something Putin will probably come up with a counter. He still has Snowden too.

While he could of tried to solve this conflict in many different ways, sometimes it's better to add fuel to the fire and just let it burn itself out. This way is the quickest and most effective one. If you want something done, do it yourself. The Government of Ukraine is no more, so Putin came in the name of all the ethnic Russians in Ukraine to set things straight and end the blooming civil war. He's got Russia behind him, he's got the majority of Ukraine behind him and he's got the true President of Ukraine behind him. United States and NATO are simply mad that Putin beat them to it, using their own tactic no less.

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

IF NATO had the right to do the same with Kosovo, than Russia has with Crimea.
IF CRIMEA AND KOSOVO have the right to become seperate countries, so do SCOTLAND and TEXAS.

Now WHY is it allowed for Brit's and 'Muricans to stop their land's from breaking away, BUT NOT ALLOWED for Serbia and Ukraine?

Also 'Murican's have no land that is actually theirs, they did a genocide and almoast killed an entire human race (indians) and stole a f**king continend from them!

Shhh
All the answers are in bumba

http://goo.gl/rTS5vk

As you can see, you talk bullshit.

[Jaka_Lah]

Ukraine's Military Mobilizes, Prepares For Combat: Trucks, APCs, SAMs, Howitzers, Tanks Rolling Out

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