Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[Teddy]

As soon as the BETA server was released, everything was already made, and it was too late.

It is never to late. Changes can still be made including entire overhauls; use ARUN as a means to communicate with the developers and Gandalf about exactly what you think is wrong and how you think it should be and why that way best serves all the groups and the community.

[Acika]

Cheaters!
You voted with ur main forum account and with a fake  one (Mostly rs5 voters,I wont tell names also).

[Mikal]

It is never to late. Changes can still be made including entire overhauls; use ARUN as a means to communicate with the developers and Gandalf about exactly what you think is wrong and how you think it should be and why that way best serves all the groups and the community.

TBH I don't think over hauls are what's needed, what is needed is a bunch of paydays, ownable properties and vehicles and fixes of major bugs and as soon as possible.

P.S: I'm banned till May so I'm not suggesting paydays for myself.

[Alfreddo.]

Don't laught go see it yourself.

[Mikal]

I thought that list was confidential!

[Mopreme]

RS4 had over 100 players
RS5 now is struggling to reach 20 players.

You cant hide from the statistics. Numbers are everything.


The vote is pretty much useless anyway.. we all know they are not going to change anything.

Yeah well, by Gandalf saying they do not care about the player count, hiding is pretty much what they are up to .

[Alfreddo.]

I thought that list was confidential!

No it warned you.
But after voting only.

[Mikal]

No it warned you.
But after voting only.

ok i dont care anyway 

[Stivi]

Alright, alright.

SAPD was briefed in rs4, IG, for the changes/features, I know this. Those who told me said they'd leave SAPD because everyone could be SAPD, that being said, they had no challenge. They're still cops in rs5, they want to get a better rank, like the new features, whatever the reason is.

On the other hand, criminal side had no idea about features, they could only assume features from rs5 SSs. In my opinion, even though I was kinda against it in the first place, ex-official groups (and active groups of rs4) should be given their HQ, and possibly like two group cars ( Like acika suggested ), but, not based on rs5's activity. Instead, based on rs4's activity. If they were active before rs5, then they didn't get that busy as not even getting IG at rs5. They need a motivation, even if that is some virtual asset. "The possibility of getting their HQ back if they work for it" is not motivating groups, as it still remains a "possibility", you can't be sure if doing this and that will give you the HQ back.

If that is rejected, then the developers should "list" what they expect from groups, other than "Go IG AND RP!"

[Acika]

Don't laught go see it yourself.

I have just checked. It's sad to see that they are voting from their another accounts.

[Jaka_Lah]

I have just checked. It's sad to see that they are voting from their another accounts.

Admins do I have the permission to call him a moron?
They are their old names, most of them had the forum names changed, thus the names in the poll are different.. they weren't cheating, it's a flaw in the script showing the names that were first registered instead of changed ones..
Perfect examples;
Tedd:Jones - Teddy
rusty - RustyCalvesomething
JDCdesigns - JDC

[AK47]

Admins do I have the permission to call him a moron?
They are their old names, most of them had the forum names changed, thus the names in the poll are different.. they weren't cheating, it's a flaw in the script showing the names that were first registered instead of changed ones..
Perfect examples;
Tedd:Jones - Teddy
rusty - RustyCalvesomething
JDCdesigns - JDC

Like my vote is Ernst but look at ze name <----

[Rusty]

SAPD was briefed about RS5?  Nope.
Sure we had admins inside SAPD who got to test RS5 before the public did, fact is we never got consulted about the police side of things.  It was only until Zaila posted a topic in the ARPD Forums at the start of January because of the barely there communication we were able to put forward ideas and what not. 

[Frank_Hawk]

Like Cofi, I agree that there is no finger pointing at the developers - they have done a great job.

RS5 is in the current predicament because of failure to adhere to general project management principles. The fundamental rule of project management is to ensure you understand and translate the requirements of the users into functional solutions. For example, if a client asked for a Ferrari and was delivered a FIAT, he would surely not be impressed. The same applies to RS5 where the community was not even given reasonable insight into RS5 through the development phase resulting in the commotion we see today.

The RS5 requirement elicitation process was poor and managed by the owner who has questionably been out of touch with the community. Some have been petitioning since early 2009 for a general counsel AKA ARUN to have vetoing ability over changes in this community and the project stalled several times only to be reinstated again recently, perhaps one might argue too late.

This said, what is more important is that we concentrate on remediating the issues at hand and providing real feasible solutions. Again, the management and owner are not providing insight into how this area of concern is planned to be resolved except for ARUN. There needs to be greater transparency if you wish for players to stay.

[Mikal]

Those who told me said they'd leave SAPD because everyone could be SAPD,

And those are power hungry idiots.

they want to get a better rank, like the new features, whatever the reason is.

Because they want to feel more powerful than everyone else.

ex-official groups (and active groups of rs4) should be given their HQ, and possibly like two group cars ( Like acika suggested )

Why should they? They bailed when RS5 came because they lost their assets, they don't deserve shit.

If that is rejected, then the developers should "list" what they expect from groups, other than "Go IG AND RP!"

Going in game and RPing is what you're expected to do though.

It's sad to see that they are voting from their another accounts.

How do you know they are? And what dumbass wastes time doing that in a non-official vote..