Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[Leon.]

It's not a rumour, one of your Gvardia buddies said so himself.

It is a rumor, it just so happens that a Gvardia member (who so happens to not hold any position of power) said it. And I, a Gvardia leader, have thoroughly explained.

Also, might I mention that our official status was removed after we were already gone? Hurr durr.

[Cofiliano]

bla bla bla bla

We couldn't care less for the offical status. We ended our SA:MP presence before that.

Mikal i understand you're still a hater of Gvardia thats your right to be, but this isn't the topic about Gvardia, yet why is there 5 players on SA:MP server. Same goes for JDC, you people shouldn't give 2 percent fuck about Gvardia, since you claim you're Argonath's soldiers, yet you're acting here like the subject is Gvardia.

We're not even on SAMP anymore, and still Gvardia is the subject you're constantly talking about, while the server has 5 players online.

The subject is SA:MP server, stick to it.

[Mikal]

bla bla bla bla

Sorry what? I do not recall being a hater of Gvardia.

[Leon.]

I would love to hear what these "promises" were about and who made these promises as I have yet to hear a single thing about them but simply hear that "promises were broken".

Check skype.

[Mario_Rinna]

This topic's name is "let's get real," so let's get real. Criminal groups are not able to "raise their activity and change their tone" since they do not exist any more. The reset removed everything that made a group a criminal group. Buildings are just some small part of that.

I think that it is important to understand that not even one group today possess all the qualities of a criminal group. Now, all we have here are just some people who were previously known to be members or leaders of criminals group.

Since criminals groups are no longer criminal groups, it is quite normal to remove their official status. After all, they are no longer Mafias or gangs in any way. They are not motivated to continue or rebuild, so it's understandable if it doesn't happen.

It was actually a great idea to get rid of the whole "official group" concept here since it may take a year or two for a new powerful criminal group to emerge. And that may not happen at all since being a law-abiding fireman may become more prestigious and rewarding than being a mobster.

I honestly think that this situation is quite healthy for the community. Look at it this way: the needs of ARFD have been neglected for way too long; now, it is the time for them to steal the spotlight and continue their successful journey. There's no need to look at RS5 in a negative way: any situation leads to some advantages.

Finally, any statements regarding criminal groups "bailing out" are inappropriate since de facto these groups don't exist any more. By all means, if you wish to accuse a non-existent group of present problems – go ahead and do so. That must be fun.

[eymas]

There's a point there Mario.

So far no "criminal" groups are there yet, and if there are; it's too early to give the title yet.

I hope though, that all groups will earn their respect on the right way. What I wish is that there will be little to no bloodshed for the most inane reasons(ex: provocations) and that the activities will hold impact: Such as schemes for corruption, white-collar crimes, cartels and rings of contraband...

Just my opinion though, but I can wish for groups to act like actual mafias than a group of juveniles thinking they're above the others by using violence as communication.

On the other hand I might be asking too much but I do hope.

Second is the ARFD having the chance to rise; Before it was just a name. Now it has its time to shine. If people cooperate. Which will be rare.

[Matt Murdock]

Lets accept it, We need them.

[AK47]

Lets accept it, We need them.

Finally someone said it!

[Alexander_Rijav]

Lets accept it, We need them.

[Leon.]

I hope though, that all groups will earn their respect on the right way. What I wish is that there will be little to no bloodshed for the most inane reasons(ex: provocations) and that the activities will hold impact: Such as schemes for corruption, white-collar crimes, cartels and rings of contraband...

All of the good white-collar crimes are bannable.

[Dan Santovis]

All of the good white-collar crimes are bannable.

So roleplaying is bannable? As much of the "White-collar" crimes are roleplaying, you don't need to death match, and start wars between family's to have fun.

[Antonio.]

Sorry what? I do not recall being a hater of Gvardia.

Looks like April Fools came earlier around this year.

[eymas]

All of the good white-collar crimes are bannable.

Typical white-collar crimes include fraud, bribery, Ponzi schemes, insider trading, embezzlement, cybercrime, copyright infringement, money laundering, identity theft, and forgery.

At least it's different than the everyday blue-collar crimes which apparently remain popular...

[Leon.]

So roleplaying is bannable? As much of the "White-collar" crimes are roleplaying, you don't need to death match, and start wars between family's to have fun.

You took me way out of context there, brah.

At least it's different than the everyday blue-collar crimes which apparently remain popular...

Ponzi scheming is namely one that may be bannable, considering my experiences here.

[eymas]

Ponzi scheming is namely one that may be bannable, considering my experiences here.

I can agree.
The others however...