Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[JDC]

Also, thats just your opinion with the "laggy and unstable gamemode".

Just to make it clear:
RS1: Was built with the PEN1 script as example, I rewrote about 70%$ to fit it within our ideas and to learn how scripting works.
RS2: Built from scratch for the SA:MP 0.2 release. Unfortunately it was too 'heavy' and advanced for the SA:MP release and could not hold more than 20 players, the amount that beta tested.
RS3: Rewritten and tuned down version of RS2. I learned how to reduce script size and manage memory. In the end it contained 90% of RS2 with only 60% of the script size and using 40% of the RS2 memory.
RS4: Was actually equal to RS3, however instead of making one large script I separated it in to filterscripts, making it possible for multiple scripters to work on the project.
RS4.1: Debugged version of RS4, overhauled by CFBASI and David_Omid mainly. Once they stopped, Conroy and Gimli did the maintenance and added functionality.

RS4.1 has the issue of an outdated file system that places limits on many things. It is based on the system designed for RS3, and if done today I would not make it the same.
Due to its design it is prone to script lag, making it impossible for more as 200 players. However for a single game mode to survive for 6 years is pretty unique, even if we expected to have it replaced about 1 year earlier.

RS5 has a new database design made by UML standards. As a result the database design is ahead of current SA:MP limitations and is built to last. That means we do not look at any type of major reset for the coming 5 to 10 years.

Seems a lot of people need to learn how to development history.

[Joey_Creeks]

Oh. Okay, let me clear something up to you: The reason why RS4 crashed so often and lagspikes happened and why pings were unbearable was because of the way the gamemode was written, it's developer confirmed.

Yes, you are greedy, because you want to sacrifice something that developers were working long and hard on for getting your money back (You all are crying to restore RS4 with latest database, which means peoples money and assets being returned), RS5 provides an opportunity for other groups and mafias to rise and actually have a fair fight, because everyone starts from beggining, while in RS4 new criminal groups and other groups would be dealt with by the veteran ones. This is nothing more than greed, oh and believe me, peopel would care a lot more if I left than you think.. Who the hell are you anyways

I like how you assume right away that i want my property and money back. What if i told you that its just a game and i really didn't lose anything to start with. They did work their asses off for RS5, do denying that but look at all the people who just dont like it. Also if RS4 WOULD revert giving money and assets back isn't confirmed. And you think they didn't work hard for RS4? You think it just appeared from nowhere? Also, what does who i am have to do with anything here. -___-.

[Joey_Creeks]

Seems a lot of people need to learn how to development history.

Funny how you just jump into the argument out of the blue. Sorry, you're not worth the effort. I need to learn about development history? Here's a question i'm dying to see you answer; Why would i care about it?

[JDC]

Funny how you just jump into the argument out of the blue. Sorry, you're not worth the effort. I need to learn about development history? Here's a question i'm dying to see you answer; Why would i care about it?

So you would know why gamemodes work in certain ways and why some changes are best made, and be able to make an actual informed opinion instead of one that is ignorant of the facts.

[Joey_Creeks]

So you would know why gamemodes work in certain ways and why some changes are best made, and be able to make an actual informed opinion instead of one that is ignorant of the facts.

Well, excuse me for not knowing everything. Ignorant of the facts? I already said you're not worth it, and thats exactly it; not worth it.

[JDC]

Well, excuse me for not knowing everything. Ignorant of the facts?

If you seriously perceive knowing the facts on one matter to be the same as knowing everything, then you should reconsider who is worth what. Please do enlighten us on your upstanding standard for "worthiness", wise one.

[Frank_Hawk]

Can someone tell me when the last economic reset was?

I believe this is the first one since RS1 started.

Also, when was RS1 launched and when was the decomissioning of RS5?

[Jaka_Lah]

LOL dudes a year older than me and thinks he's Albert Einstein.
Seems the only friend he has is google.

So you go around insulting people and expect administrators to not punish you, begging for unbans.
I would commit suicide from reading your posts but that would force me to climb on top of your ego and jump down to your IQ.
If you don't respect the community than don't expect the community to respect you.
You have been playing on here for three months and you go around spreading bullshit like you've been enlightened by the holy spirit. If you have nothing else to contribute than calling people assholes stop replying, the topic title is Let's get real, you aren't even close to getting real.

I might be a version off, but am fairly certain it was RS3, not many from back then who can confirm so anyone who was please do.

Indeed, RS3 - RS4 was a reset.

[JDC]

Wise one, touchy. Even tho you're the one here who is hungry for the spotlight and arguments AND seem to have a answer to everything. Here's a way to find a "wise one", look into the mirror. I'm drawing the line here. I got stuff that's actually worth my time and effort to do. So if you notice me not responding that's called ignoring, wise one.

Totally agreed.

Two more people who agree on not contributing to this community. What do you have to contribute for us today aside from more moaning and insults?

Can someone tell me when the last economic reset was?

I believe this is the first one since RS1 started.

Also, when was RS1 launched and when was the decomissioning of RS5?

I'm not sure if there was a reset during RS3->RS4 or not.

[Devin]

As certain users are unable to behave they have been punished in more ways than one.

If people are not able to respect one another over a public board their ability to communicate will also be removed.

[Pandalink]

If you cannot even get your members (those who remain amounting to 4, as per your claim) to play anymore, then that is an issue on your part as a group, and not the fault of the developers.

Look, I'm not against exactly against RS5 but let's be honest here - that's just not true.

It was your own fault that you released RS5 so earlier while it was still under construction.

That is factually incorrect.

But that's kinda hard for your mind since you're a no-lifer.

dat projecting

it appears that the typical "don't like it, leave" and attitude is still hanging around

along with "stop moaning" being the typical response to any complaints that are made with good intents in mind

Why change a 7 year tradition?

Sorry JDC I forgot how mature you are dedicating your life to a video game, Shame you cant turn those 12000  posts into £12,000 that would be something eh.

I don't mean to be a dick, but you literally deal drugs and defraud the government to generate income. You even consider this a long term career, for f**k's sake.
JDC is in uni, earning a qualification for an actual job.

Look seriously at who the more useful human being is.

Can someone tell me when the last economic reset was?

November ~21st 2007, for RS2 to RS3.
RS2 was PEN1, like a bunch of freeroam servers ran at the time. You selected your model from the spawn menu each login and spawned at a set place depending on the skin, like freeroam/DM servers. People played it. Heck, a lot of people played it.
RS3 was massively stripped down of unused features and was actually a new gamemode, but for a very long time every player crashed every 15 minutes and lost their weapons. The only way to generate money into the server was cop work. Yet people still played.
RS5 comes along, and this happens. What's up with that? Maybe people just like shooting people more than spraying fires in Grand Theft Auto, you know?

[JDC]

I understand that some people have little more to do than flame other users of the forum. If this frustration is coming from something like the coming of puberty, then feel free to post a separate topic talking about those personal problems as most of the users on this forum have already gone through it and many would be willing to give advice. 

Look, I'm not against exactly against RS5 but let's be honest here - that's just not true.

I would be more inclined to believe it was if all factions were wiped out as a result of the changes. However, groups such as Ancelotti, Kolta, [WS], etc.. holding themselves together make a strong point against it.

If those end up disbanding too, then I would finally say that the system has (inadvertently) become completely geared against factions themselves. Otherwise, it could just be said that it simply became more challenging for everyone and that those factions without the willpower are the ones at risk of being wiped out.

I don't mean to be a dick, but you literally deal drugs and defraud the government to generate income. You even consider this a long term career, for f**k's sake.

Christ, that explains a lot.

RS5 comes along, and this happens. What's up with that? Maybe people just like shooting people more than spraying fires in Grand Theft Auto, you know?

The irony was that they kept complaining quite often about people shooting people...

[Devin]

Topic cleaned, I hope people will take this as a learning experience, both those punished and those that were on the line for punishment.
This is not the place to have your cat fights, take that elsewhere.

[Que]

Why you're not active on it, then?

Because I live in another country with an internet connection made by an invalid and slightly retarded hippopotamus. Otherwise I would be at least semi-active. But that does not take away the fact in my previous post.

[Leon.]

I'm surprised nobody's angry about the fact that RS4 wasn't regularly backed up despite the fact that we regularly receive attacks from our biggest "fans."