Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[eymas]

I'm surprised nobody's angry about the fact that RS4 wasn't regularly backed up despite the fact that we regularly receive attacks from our biggest "fans."

There were back-ups though, I believe.
the wizard will know.

[Teddy]

I'm surprised nobody's angry about the fact that RS4 wasn't regularly backed up despite the fact that we regularly receive attacks from our biggest "fans."

As I'm sure you know we'd only recently switched host; as far as I'm aware a backup system was not readily available like on the previous host.

Also... DDOS attacks don't destroy data either; no other attack which has taken place has created such a breach in which data outside of the web host would have been compromised either.

[Kessu]

As I'm sure you know we'd only recently switched host; as far as I'm aware a backup system was not readily available like on the previous host.

Also... DDOS attacks don't destroy data either; no other attack which has taken place has created such a breach in which data outside of the web host would have been compromised either.

AFAIK the backups were in the same place as the "new" data was due to switching host and then became the darkness and 4 months of data (AND BACKUP) was lost.

[Mark_C]

Argonath SA:MP is dead.

[Devin]

Argonath SA:MP is dead.

All thanks to people following your mindset.
If players decided to make the most of RS5 in-game as certain groups are doing things would be different.

[Leroy_Kolta]

If players decided to make the most of RS5 in-game as certain groups are doing things would be different.

Indeed, Kolta is thriving on this, making a better Roleplay experience out of it instead of saying things like SAMP is dead.

[Jerome]

If the time spent on this topic with nonsence was spent on the server, it would'nt be as you say "dead".

[Conk]

All thanks to people following your mindset.
If players decided to make the most of RS5 in-game as certain groups are doing things would be different.

How can we make the most of something that is terribly bad and badly thought-through. Not to mention being released in like Alpha stages.

[Khm]

Argonath SA:MP is dead.

SAMP isn't only RPG and no it's not dead.

[Hidduh]

All I can read in this topic is HQ members blaming regulars for everything, and players blaming HQ for everything. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with everyone? Why are people still making these useless discussions which only lead to provoking?? Instead, why isn't there anything being done to improve the current situation? Instead of sitting on your chair and complaining about RS5 and how terrible HQ/the players are, improve the situation by coming up with a proper idea to make EVERYBODY happy.... I thought that was the whole idea of a community? Or am I wrong??

[Devin]

How can we make the most of something that is terribly bad and badly thought-through. Not to mention being released in like Alpha stages.

If you roleplayed you would see that the fundamental roleplay commands are there and working perfectly.
The only terribly bad thing about RS5 is negative players trying to drag it down with nonsense remarks before even trying to make something of the new scripts.

[Rusty]

improve the situation by coming up with a proper idea to make EVERYBODY happy

People have been told it numerous times in this topic and elsewhere, it's showing that they would rather mindlessly argue than do something to remedy the issue.

No wonder Teddy had to take it upon himself to post re-writes of certain systems. 
Biggest issue so far has been about groups and how there's no functionality for criminals, maybe someone who indulges in that area should get a public topic going and see where it goes. 

[Louis_Keyl]

I've read 18 pages of complaining and I can't believe how many old names gathered up to complain about RS5, in fact, i have never seen such users united for anything until now. Admit it, RS5 brought an union. :P

Hey there cofi and leon, I hadn't heard about you for a really long time!

While I was present in the very, very, very early development of RS5 for a really, really, really short amount of time, I had read and understood the plans that we as developers had to follow in order to get to a new gamemode. RS5 is not wrong, it's incomplete. If the roadmap hasn't changed from then, then I can assure you that there are lots of functions not added yet, coincidentially most of the criminal scripts parts.

You can ask, why were the cop/firemen scripts introduced over the criminal scripts? Well, the cop system is not really hard to do if you have a base. While of course it had to be a total rewrite, we knew exactly how should it behave and what it should do, and to be honest, it was not a great innovation since not that many things have changed apart from a very few things.
On the other hand, everything that was planned for the criminal system was purely new and we had no base to attach to, and I am sure it was a great challenge for the developers that had to continue with it, and that might be the reason of why such functions are not still in. As I said, I left in early development so I cannot say much more and maybe I could be completely wrong, but this is my point of view.

I do agree with the fact that there must be actions soon or else the damage done will be unrepairable, however I am not really in a position to complain or ask, I am barely a part of the community right now, compared to what I once was, I am just commenting stuff here. 

P.S: I agree that the criminals are in a really bad position to do anything. Yes, there are basic roleplaying commands but the main mode on the current state is completely sided for the cops... In RS4 it was like this, however, RS5 was meant to be introduced to create a balanced opportunity for all the three "factions": law, civilian & criminal, but as I said, I trust that this will defenitely change once the scripts are 100% completed.

Now, don't blame the developers either. They have done their best so far and I am sure if they could have done any better they would have done so. RS5 development started too late (and I myself are guilty of that),.

[Petarda]

I got told that people are inactive because of exams.

[Khm]

I got told that people are inactive because of exams.

Yes like me.