Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[Mr. Goobii]

Enough e-penis comparisons.

Haha, always wanted one  ... 


On the other note, I'll think it's time to head up. But we'll maybe need to await the time it takes until Gandalf arrives and gives the developers a head on how things are going
to run.   

[Nexxt]

Eh, JDC... why are people wrong with 'sitting back'? It's a waste of time if I play on a gamemode I like less than the previous one? I'm not gonna play so people will come back. I do not play because I do not like it, that's the whole reason of 'sitting back'.

And honestly, I didn't expect you to criticize RS5. You've always liked anything the owners decided to do, maybe someone never told you, but you can have your own opinion. Gandalf is not gonna be mad on you, bro.

[Nexxt]

And yet it was magically running perfectly on my host without ANY downtime for the past 6 months. Since it returned to the main host it has been plagued with downtime. Some people just refuse to be helped.

That's how much people still care. It's taking days to get a server back up, I'm not blaming Gandalf for this. But at least someone else should be able to get the server back running. Now it just looks like no-one cares...

[Petarda]

Easy for you to sit back and point fingers while you've barely contributed anything (if at all). Now what have you done for this community recently, aside from getting banned for trolling and shitting, pray tell?

What have you done for this community, aside from constantly posting kilometers long messages that are completely pointless and do not help this community SAMP server at all?

[.Ganton.]

What have you done for this community, aside from constantly posting kilometers long messages that are completely pointless and do not help this community SAMP server at all?

[JDC]

And honestly, I didn't expect you to criticize RS5. You've always liked anything the owners decided to do, maybe someone never told you, but you can have your own opinion. Gandalf is not gonna be mad on you, bro.

I do have my own opinion, hence why I do not give two fucks about what the moaners think. I could explain about how I've had disagreements with all levels of staff, from moderators up to Gandalf (both in my time as admin and non-admin), but those who are too closed-minded to comprehend that would not understand it anyway, so might as well save the effort.

That's how much people still care. It's taking days to get a server back up, I'm not blaming Gandalf for this. But at least someone else should be able to get the server back running. Now it just looks like no-one cares...

In Stunt's case, not even caion, Kent, or Steven can restart reboot it, but only Gandalf. Stunt is not down because no one cares, but becaus Gandalf is currently inactive. Unfortunate, but true.

What have you done for this community, aside from constantly posting kilometers long messages that are completely pointless and do not help this community SAMP server at all?

Because you cannot give your own answer, you throw the criticism back at me. I can give a long list, would you like it in forum-post, essay, list, infographic format, or a combination of those?

But on second thought, as you have trouble understanding even my normal posts, I'll save your caveman brain the trouble of comprehending it all. Although the simplest and most basic item that I can put there is that I didn't get banned for trolling and shitting on server.

[Manoni]

If you either not going to post something useful or relevant, keep it to yourself.
Speaking about Gandalf, do we know where is he? And please don't reply saying "at home".

I do have my own opinion, hence why I do not give two f**ks about what the moaners think.

Remember that those moaners are the players. Still, you do mind their opinions by replying to them hence why they throw shit back at you, even now that you are just another normal member of this community like them, besides the attitude and thoughts of each of us, we are all the same here.

[Lustigkurre]

I think Svensson and and many other players are done trying to help the server by being ingame and trying to enjoy it. It doesn't work any longer. It's not enjoyable. Now it's up to the leaders to make changes.

[AK47]

Yes, I'm tired of the "We can't do anything because Gandalf needs the last word". Well step the fuck up and do it since he can't be here all the time and if he asks why just tell it's for the community.

[Petarda]

Because you cannot give your own answer, you throw the criticism back at me. I can give a long list, would you like it in forum-post, essay, list, infographic format, or a combination of those?

But on second thought, as you have trouble understanding even my normal posts, I'll save your caveman brain the trouble of comprehending it all. Although at the simplest and most basic item that I can put there is that I didn't get banned for trolling and shitting on server.

>realizes that hes losing argument
>personal attack will do it, yes, definitely

[.James]

But on second thought, as you have trouble understanding even my normal posts, I'll save your caveman brain the trouble of comprehending it all. Although the simplest and most basic item that I can put there is that I didn't get banned for trolling and shitting on server.

Low.

[JDC]

Speaking about Gandalf, do we know where is he? And please don't reply saying "at home".

That is the problem: Nobody knows, and it is affecting us all.

Remember that those moaners are the players. Still, you do mind their opinions by replying to them hence why they throw shit back at you, even now that you are just another normal member of this community like them, besides the attitude and thoughts of each of us, we are all the same here.

In the last part, you forgot to add the actions to the differences. That is what separates doers from those who are nothing but talk.

The moaners are players, but they are not the players. There is a difference between healthy complaints and criticism made for the purpose of improvement, and useless whining that leads to nothing productive. Moaners are those who devote themselves to the latter.

Before you talk about being nice to them, think of how you would feel if you worked hard to build a house, and someone walked in and did nothing but tell you about how shit everything you did was, instead of telling you where you could improve.

As for "normal players", I see no need to compromise my honesty based on rank. I'm not sure about others, but JDC is defined by who he is and what he does, and not by what position he holds. I'd pretty much like to think anyone else who is reasonable would hold themselves to the same ethic; ranks can be given and taken away, but your personality will stay.

Yes, I'm tired of the "We can't do anything because Gandalf needs the last word". Well step the f**k up and do it since he can't be here all the time and if he asks why just tell it's for the community.

This is exactly the reason why Community Leaders, Division Leaders, and Managers were appointed: so that there will be someone to run things if the Owner is away.

But putting things into perspective, the community cannot rest on those safeguards and work 100% fine without the presence of its Owner, the head leader who guides players, admins, and HQ alike. Look at how things are going now; half of the administration and HQ are inactive, Devin is swamped with administrative / management matters, and Jones/Conroy are the only developers making their presence actively felt.

As the administration and HQ are both sectors of their own too, they too can be affected by issues just like us (the players). All of us can do our part and contribute our best, but if there is no presence at the top of the chain, the cycle cannot work completely.

But neither will if those at the lower parts decide to bail out because times got a little tough.

>realizes that hes losing argument
>personal attack will do it, yes, definitely

This is even funnier because it was you who started ad hominem posting.

But I've had enough fun for today. I don't see people like you, who do not do anything productive for this community, as worth the time and effort of explaining what I did to help make things better. If I ever do feel like proving that I contributed definitely more than someone who can't even keep himself out of SA:MP Unban Requests, then be careful what you wish for as you just might get the answer you wanted.

P.S: You might want to invest in a mirror before you throw your criticisms, as you could not even answer my simple question on the last page.

Low.

Even if there are some lines I won't cross, I like to base my treatment of people on their own treatment of others. If they do not like what they are seeing, then some self-reflection would do them good.

[Meepy]

That was a good read. I enjoyed it.

[Marcel]

In Stunt's case, not even caion, Kent, or Steven can restart reboot it, but only Gandalf. Stunt is not down because no one cares, but becaus Gandalf is currently inactive. Unfortunate, but true.

They were perfectly able to restart it on their Dutch host over which Phil and Caion had full control since september. Ever since it was moved back to the main "official" host, the server has been plagued with downtime.

[Petarda]

as you could not even answer my simple question on the last page.

And what counts as contributing community?

If reporting bugs is helping, sorry, I can't do that since the Argonath server where I'm currently playing on has no bugs