Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[Manoni]

Moving back to a point related to the original subject of the topic. Kostas gave a good comment there, at least i would like to know if the staff knows the reason of Gandalf's inactivity.

[Petarda]

By saying that the work of our developers is (verbtim) "pure bullshit"?
Because those people were not contributing anyway.
You might want to do a double-take as to what board you are in right now. You would also want to do a double-take of the rules and find out where insulting the developers' work falls under.

RS5 is the work of volunteer devs with contributions from admins and players who helped. What I find to be such a piss-off is people like you making senseless claims such as it being "pure bullshit", which are huge insults to every single one of those who helped. So please, don't lie to us by saying you are not shitting anyone.

I didn't say that their work is pure bullshit, but your posts that are saying how their work is completely done and things like that.

[.James]

Moving back to a point related to the original subject of the topic. Kostas gave a good comment there, at least i would like to know if the staff knows the reason of Gandalf's inactivity.

Does Gandalf have to know why are you going to be inactive or why were you inactive?

[Manoni]

Does Gandalf have to know why are you going to be inactive or why were you inactive?

Do i have an important charge and responsabily as a Community Owner here?

[JDC]

Spoiler for For Petarda:

I didn't say that their work is pure bullshit

I beg to differ.

...telling them that the game mode is good, that they will get players and things like that while knowing that it's pure bullshit.

And on this too:

but your posts that are saying how their work is completely done and things like that.

RS5 is an innovative system with a flawed implementation. Once the flaws are removed and the implementation smoothened, then the system can shine at its full potential.
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The scripts need change and fixing.

Everything in this post (click for full version)

What RS5 is right now is an incomplete (not "under development") gamemode, with many vital scripts and features not loaded, and lots of bugs, which produces discontent from all sectors.

I was one of those who were quick to acknowledge and point out flaws in RS5

I am certain everyone here (including me, for those who would assume otherwise) agrees that RS5 is in need of improvement

These are from the month of Feburary alone. If you want more of my posts that can debunk your claim that I'm touting RS5 as perfect and completed, feel free to dig back even further.

Does Gandalf have to know why are you going to be inactive or why were you inactive?

Things are different with Gandalf, as he is an Owner. Even more so, the last active remaining Owner. At least when both Aragorn and him were still around, one could go inactive for some time and still have the other around to do things that needed an Owner to do. Even if someone owns the community and enjoy the power of having your word as law, they still have the responsibility of running it.

The fact is that the absence has affected all of us, and we need him back. So if anyone here can give us an answer as to the reasons behind Gandalf's absence, please do so.

[Kostas]

Does Gandalf have to know why are you going to be inactive or why were you inactive?

Very wrong post man. He is the one in charge for a community, neither me or ManoliLc have such a big impact to anyone.

Despite all of those.
First of all it actually is his right to just go inactive and don't talk about it to anyone. From the other-side it is also unacceptable for the owner of a community in our size to go inactive without even notifying us, one should actually be put in charge during his absence.

[Que]

Back in Sweden, wants to log on Argonath. See's the player list.. 1/100..
S e r i o u s l y.

EDIT: ah lol you cant even log on

[Stivi]

Back in Sweden, wants to log on Argonath. See's the player list.. 1/100..
S e r i o u s l y.

EDIT: ah lol you cant even log on

Update to 0.3z.

[Que]

Update to 0.3z.

Ah. So you can log on, but there's still no players..
Something has to happen or else this will go rocket launcher straight under earth.

[Jaka_Lah]

Ah. So you can log on, but there's still no players..
Something has to happen or else this will go rocket launcher straight under earth.

I did not want to share this as it was a personal message for a reason, but jesus christ people, gandalf is aware of people not wanting to play.

Neither the community, nor I am going anywhere. 2014 is the year we will start launching our own stuff that nobody will be able to rip off. MTA:VC has died, it seems SAMP in general is not doing too well and going the way of VCMP.
So we will need to find what people are playing together today and go in to that. We are not needing to stat stuck in one type of game or server, we simply will add that where people are already.

Regards,

Gandalf

I do not want to put our whole conversation on the forum, but since Gandalf isn't here to calm your tits maybe his 2 month old reply will have effects on you.

[Huntsman]

Okay guys, enough is enough. Making each other look like asses or having contributed to the community in some way does not make your penis bigger. We did not come here to discuss about who's done what to help the community and who did nothing. We're here to solve the worst case scenario we're currently at  - two years of development gone to waste. How about we start arriving at solutions and coming up with ideas instead of trying to show off your skills of undermining others.

[Jaka_Lah]

Okay guys, enough is enough. Making each other look like asses or having contributed to the community in some way does not make your penis bigger. We did not come here to discuss about who's done what to help the community and who did nothing. We're here to solve the worst case scenario we're currently at  - two years of development gone to waste. How about we start arriving at solutions and coming up with ideas instead of trying to show off your skills of undermining others.

What situation? it's the player base's fault, you don't want to log into the server and cry that others don't, nobody will join a server with 1 person online, join and there will be 2, someone will see your name and there will be 3, somehow 30 after a while, going "meh nobody is playing anyway" isn't helping either. This "worst case scenario" is being caused by the playerbase, they decided not to play, so how do you save the server? Play the god damn server, and new people will join.. it's really that simple.

[Danny_Leo]

Well what we have here is that many regulars left after their accounts got deleted together with their beloved belongings. And as chain reaction some of those who didn't care about cash left simply because their friends were gone elsewhere.

Since economy is dead and cash is hard to earn people easily give up, I know at least ten people who are just not motivated and bitter about the whole situation. Yes you can RP stuff without money too but people love their fancy toys and huge houses.. hell who doesn't. Money needs to be injected somehow, people won't work for months to regain something they already had.

By the way what happened to loan system that was most mentioned way of making the whole restart for regulars easier?

[AK47]

..it's really that simple.

But nobody wants to play on a bugged server, that's why they don't play.

[Jaka_Lah]

But nobody wants to play on a bugged server, that's why they don't play.

Oh well, I didn't play enough to notice any bugs, fuck it than, blame scripters and division leaders.. actually division leaders who script... hmm .. so Zaila, sup with you, been doing some scripting?