Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[Huntsman]

But nobody wants to play on a bugged server, that's why they don't play.

There is no unit to measure the amount of stupidity in this post.

[AK47]

Oh well, I didn't play enough to notice any bugs, f**k it than, blame scripters and division leaders.. actually division leaders who script... hmm .. so Zaila, sup with you, been doing some scripting?

Oh you haven't? I played since January and I keep noticing bugs every day.

[Kostas]

But nobody wants to play on a bugged server, that's why they don't play.

Let's get this straight, we both know that there are actually not so many important bugs out there. The most important bug outther that I have faced is when the chat script goes crazy, other than that everything else simply has no big meaning for the players.

Now instead of throwing accusations of why people don't play. Start to think about how to create reasons for the people to start playing again.

And yes it is about time we stop this f**king conversation, half of the people that post 24/7 here do not even log once a week in the server. Want to help? PLAY and THINK

[Que]

I do not want to put our whole conversation on the forum, but since Gandalf isn't here to calm your tits maybe his 2 month old reply will have effects on you.

No one needs to "calm my tits". I am more calm now than ever before. Someone has to look themselves in the mirror because Argonath SA:MP has died, for some reason. You don't abandon a stable part of the community just when the flow drops. It has been the real spirit since I dunno when. And for some serious reason there are no players there anymore. I will rewrite what I wrote a couple of twenty pages back.

Our prominent player base with veterans, splendid roleplayers and excellent writers had already gone missing before RS5 turned public and widely open.

Argonath has always lacked the most important part of a roleplay server, yet some people has been patient enough to stay, and one another has already left a long time ago. The list can be made long and most importantly, it can be made by heavy names and incredible individuals, which has also led to this turning slingshot of Argonath's existence. The names were never replaced; not even by close. It left a vicious hole and also a gap between now and then. The players are after all the prime ingredient of it, and by having quite some large quantities abandoning an already necessitous server is with no doubts a hard rock to lift.

And the delicacy with the community has always been the forum, and if you compare it now to two- three years ago, the activity has decreased a lot. The removal of RS4 and the beginning of RS5 has only been a perfect time to actually wave good bye to something that once was something absolutely astonishing for us.

With this said, I don't think it will matter that much if Argonath will return to RS4. It is what it is and it is being thereafter. I like RS5 and I think it's a great scripted version with much heart and excellent visions. Unfortunately, I do not think it will ever bloom out to the way it was meant to do. And that's pretty much it.

[Huntsman]

Saying that there are no players would be kind of false. In the evenings it usually gets to 30-40 - just as much as there was on RS4 in the afternoons.

[Que]

Saying that there are no players would be kind of false. In the evenings it usually gets to 30-40 - just as much as there was on RS4 in the afternoons.

Wow, that's a lot.
Compared to active SA:MP servers and to the standard Argonath used to have in the quantity of players online it is more or less no players online.

[Meepy]

Saying that there are no players would be kind of false.

You know exactly what people mean when they say it. Don't need to be so technical about it.

[Lustigkurre]

Give Al_Svensson full rights to script for the server and he will give you all what you want. Are you with me?  hail Al, the best scripter of samp history. Please step forward Al and tell us about your plans.

[Mr. Goobii]

Give Al_Svensson full rights to script for the server and he will give you all what you want. Are you with me?  hail Al, the best scripter of samp history. Please step forward Al and tell us about your plans.

I've been banned in the past. There is a very little chance that it will ever happen. 

[Devin]

I've been banned in the past. There is a very little chance that it will ever happen. 

I was banned three or four times in the past.. 

[Marcel]

I was banned three or four times in the past.. 

I have never been banned. I just was a critic of the way SA:MP was scripted. Yet i've never been a part of the SA:MP scripting team.

[AK47]

I've seen Al's work, hire him!!!       

[Manoni]

I've seen Al's work, hire him!!!       

/Buy Potato 5

[feedthepony]

chinks

[JDC]

I have never been banned. I just was a critic of the way SA:MP was scripted. Yet i've never been a part of the SA:MP scripting team.

Spam Gimli

Argonath has always lacked the most important part of a roleplay server

Pray tell, what would this be?

Also, are you basing this comparison on other "roleplay" servers? (nearly all of which are realistic or prison-RLRP servers)

One thing I have seen in Argonath is that ever since its inception, it has offered a community charm that many have tried to imitate, but were never able to duplicate, including but not limited to the following:

- Basing of roleplay on standards of creativity and imagination, rather than scripts and script tools
- Not limiting players in roleplay to "rules" set up by people who do not have brains to know whether something in /L refers to RP scenario or real life
- Welcoming new players with open arms, rather than discriminating on and ostracizing them
- Choosing admins on reliability and trustworthiness, rather than tenure or ability to pay
- Being able to moan without having all posts 100% hidden, which other communities do to make it look like nothing is wrong (in which case a topic like this will NEVER have a chance of existing)

I may be misunderstanding your intent or not, but some clarification would be nice.