Let's get real - part 2 - RS5 or RS4?

[Chris_Knight]

I won't even read your mile long post JDC,I'll just step by here few months later and I am sure I won't see improvements.

[JDC]

I won't even read your mile long post JDC,I'll just step by here few months later and I am sure I won't see improvements.

Then it would be your kind of mindset (whether it be from a player, an admin, or an HQ member) that was one of the main factors behind our problem in the first place.

Offtopic: If 384 words is already "a mile long" for you, then I am curious about your level of education.

[JDC]

JDC, did it go "step up, or shup up"? Seems like someone chose the latter and forgot about the stepping up part

I cannot speak for the rest as I do not know what they are facing at the moment, but I know that Devin and Jones at least are trying their best.

However, you have to accept that even their efforts (or that of anyone else's, for the matter) will only go so far unless others cooperate. Whether those others be players, admins, or HQ.

[AK47]

The players is not the issue, the issue is the inactive hq. Creds to Devin and Jones though.

[Jaka_Lah]

I won't even read your mile long post JDC,I'll just step by here few months later and I am sure I won't see improvements.

Avoiding problems is the best! Amiriteguys?

I'd love to see you finish any kind of essay if 300 words is a mile for you.

The players is not the issue, the issue is the inactive hq. Creds to Devin and Jones though.

and Leon and Rusty

[Jamie_James_Jameson]

Not being funny, but even though I'm community ban, I will say this.

In the time that I played BOTH Servers here at Argonath, I ran multiple families and i was involved in many different situations around the server.

back in RS4 sure, Argonath did have it's problems, there were always those wankers who didn't want to do anything but copkill, but you could ALWAYS find roleplay, no matter where you were.

RS5 Came along, I played it, I tried it, and I did my best to fight for RS4 (Then got banned for recreating RS4, YOLO) but honestly, the gear reset, the new script, everything has just ruined the effort that people put in, and the reason people stop putting in effort and enthusiasm towards roleplay, is because they feel the staff & Gandalf aren't either.

I woke up about 10 minutes ago, so if you can understand my poor sleepyminded grammar, then you may have the ability to agree or disagree with my point.

[Chris_Knight]

Avoiding problems is the best! Amiriteguys?

I'd love to see you finish any kind of essay if 300 words is a mile for you.

and Leon and Rusty

Sorry,but virtual community is not a problem of mine,I got more important things than that.

Why do you compare simple conversation to essay?

[JDC]

recreating RS4

Regardless of the topic at hand or my stance on a matter, as someone who has seen Argonath development processes from the inside and out, I have to call bullshit on the claim that someone else aside from an Argonath developer can recreate RS4. Imitate, maybe. No one has succeeded in recreating RS4 at the Argonath level of sophistication. (the Raven's Roleplay gamemode is far below the level of a competent Argonath scripter)

The players is not the issue, the issue is the inactive hq. Creds to Devin and Jones though.

Look around you, the players are also the issue. BOTH are the issue at the moment. (minus Devin and Jones)
That is why I consistently say that the solution has to come from ALL sides of the community. The HQ may be leading it, but someone (players and admins) will have to follow.

Why do you compare simple conversation to essay?

It's not about essays. It's about your unwillingness to take in a properly explained point, and resorting to an escapist / totally negative mindset instead. Some of the moaners who didn't contribute anything have even more initiative than you.

[Devin]

I am doing all I possibly can do in my position to make the necessary changes to the server to make it more user friendly for the community members however I am not a scripter and I can't deal with anything on the scripts side.

I have proposed several changes to be made as soon as possible but as for the progress of that, I can't disclose that information.
Please just bear in mind that my position has no control over the development team.

[Jamie_James_Jameson]

Regardless of the topic at hand or my stance on a matter, as someone who has seen Argonath development processes from the inside and out, I have to call bullshit on the claim that someone else aside from an Argonath developer can recreate RS4. Imitate, maybe. No one has succeeded in recreating RS4 at the Argonath level of sophistication. (the Raven's Roleplay gamemode is far below the level of a competent Argonath scripter)

Actually we spent 3-4 months coding a completely new one from scratch, ravens was only a temporary one, Not for advertisement purposes as i'd ban you instantly if you came, but I'll even show you if you wish.

Ask 40% of the members from here that came, it's been done, stop trying to claim it as bullshit, RS4 was an EXTREMELY Simple script.

As for the topic, RS5 is dead, and yes, Devin and Jones are doing something about it, but there's nothing they can do without Gandalf.

In my view, RS5 will stay dead.

[Chris_Knight]

That's the thing,this topic is all about points,each one got a point about everything,but no one faces the fact,nothing is going to change,doesn't matter how much you write or how well you say your points or how right they are,just be realistic already and stop acting like in a holywood family movie where ending is good.

[Stivi]

Actually we spent 3-4 months coding a completely new one from scratch, ravens was only a temporary one, Not for advertisement purposes as i'd ban you instantly if you came, but I'll even show you if you wish.

Ask 40% of the members from here that came, it's been done, stop trying to claim it as bullshit, RS4 was an EXTREMELY Simple script.

As for the topic, RS5 is dead, and yes, Devin and Jones are doing something about it, but there's nothing they can do without Gandalf.

In my view, RS5 will stay dead.

My I get the freedom to say "fuck off", seriously.

[Jaka_Lah]

That's the thing,this topic is all about points,each one got a point about everything,but no one faces the fact,nothing is going to change,doesn't matter how much you write or how well you say your points or how right they are,just be realistic already and stop acting like in a holywood family movie where ending is good.

There can't be a bad ending, everyone had their fun.. it's about the journey not the destination, everyone knows things die, it was fun while it lasted. Did you have fun? If you did you wouldn't just step away, I say I've been watching from a far seeing it burn down yet I'm every day at the forum going "FEEEX EEET". And if 30 regular players is dead to you.. well damn, still more people than can be in a GTA 5 multiplayer game. It's not dead, it's just broken, like a retarded puppy, just drooling on itself, you can help and teach him or.. you can walk away, RS5 is our retarded puppy.

.. best analogy EVER

[Antonio.]

No one has succeeded in recreating RS4 at the Argonath level of sophistication.

I guess you don't know Moker_Gvardia.

[Jamie_James_Jameson]

My I get the freedom to say "f**k off", seriously.

Don't cry