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Partiality of RS5 - Part 2

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Reply #15 on: March 03, 2014, 12:29:24 pm
Look at it this way, at least we are giving you an idea of how easy it is to mess yourself up financially with the help of loans.
See it as a life lesson when it comes to taking out massive loans that logically you will barely manage to say back.

Further development of the scripts are ongoing as we speak.



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Reply #16 on: March 03, 2014, 12:48:39 pm
The current loan system do have a interest rate on 6 percent per week. That means 24 percent each month. With other means, it have higher percent rate that was even allowed for loaning companies in RS4. Svensson Bank had 20 percent / Month and it was the maximum amount we could desire.  :lol:



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Reply #17 on: March 03, 2014, 04:06:26 pm
We expected to withdraw profit made by the business, we brought ourselves in debt because /help has lack of information.



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Reply #18 on: March 03, 2014, 04:11:41 pm
We expected to withdraw profit made by the business, we brought ourselves in debt because /help has lack of information.

As far as i know help brings information about each part of the script in general, not about bugs and what is active and what not.


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Reply #19 on: March 03, 2014, 04:30:31 pm
As far as i know help brings information about each part of the script in general, not about bugs and what is active and what not.

No problem. But it hasn't been announced in any topic.



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Reply #20 on: March 03, 2014, 04:40:38 pm
No problem. But it hasn't been announced in any topic.

You were taking out a massive loan that could potentially cost you a lot of money, not to mention putting down 40%+ of your own money beforehand.
And you're saying that you still couldn't bother to do a five minute research on whether it's a good investment?  :app:


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Reply #21 on: March 03, 2014, 04:54:50 pm
You were taking out a massive loan that could potentially cost you a lot of money, not to mention putting down 40%+ of your own money beforehand.
And you're saying that you still couldn't bother to do a five minute research on whether it's a good investment?  :app:

I believe you gave me the 40 percent, and you should pay off my interest. I believe we just passed the three weeks.

We've met eachother three á four times in-game now, and I still own the ammunation.



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Reply #22 on: March 03, 2014, 07:20:48 pm
Look at it this way, at least we are giving you an idea of how easy it is to mess yourself up financially with the help of loans.
See it as a life lesson when it comes to taking out massive loans that l

Yes, we are indeed here to take life lessons from bugs created by faults in rs5. So should i do missions to pay back loan?
Should i not be encouraged for team working?
Should i be all the day a fireman?
Well we helped the community by giving dedication and reporting the bugs.
So isnt it a moral duty of community to help us back in this struggle?
Cant you provide us grace time?
Cant you remove our interests?

 To all those who tell to think before buying a bizz-
Isnt it the same thing like a man before having sex must fear of a diseased or any possible disabled child?
 Do you expect an owner of a bizz to be a fireman all day working hard to payback a loan whereas he has a readymade bizz that will earn him enough in 60 days to pay back?

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Reply #23 on: March 03, 2014, 08:32:07 pm
Life lessons? Sorry but i don't understand how the bugs of RS5 are affecting my or your life in a physical or psychological way so I'm not replying to that point.

You can encourage teamwork on whatever you want to do, but i don't see how team work is related to this problem. If you want to start to gain a financial resource from an uncompleted economy system then yes, you should be fireman all day like all the others that are working hard to pay their debts instead of complaining about the fact that money is not falling off the skies.

A moral duty from the community to get an extra help or a compensation for your mistakes self caused by your ignorance towards the current status of the script? You, me and many others also reported bugs and none of us are expecting a different treatment for that. We do it for the community, for supporting, to help the development team without expecting any reward as they never really expected nothing from us. If you really thought that you were getting something exchange what you were doing then thank you but we don't need that kind of "help". On the other hand if you are really so worried about your interests just contact a scripter about your own problems and don't make a scandal about something that it's already being worked on.

Your metaphor it's completely out of context. You had the chance to known what it was going to come using a loan and buying a business with a little bit of research and usage of common sense.

You are just making struggles for this because you now have seen that you will get afected sooner or later only because you were so rushed of getting something before others; I don't really need to say this again but just for you, i will. Assets are nothing, they don't represent nothing important on a roleplay server, you won't be recognized for how much you have, you get recognized for how much you have made as a person, as a roleplayer, as a member of this community.

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Stop thinking for yourself and those around you for a second and think for the community in general.


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Reply #24 on: March 03, 2014, 08:43:42 pm
Yes, we are indeed here to take life lessons from bugs created by faults in rs5. So should i do missions to pay back loan?
Should i not be encouraged for team working?
Should i be all the day a fireman?
Well we helped the community by giving dedication and reporting the bugs.
So isnt it a moral duty of community to help us back in this struggle?
Cant you provide us grace time?
Cant you remove our interests?

You shouldn't take loans without weighing out the consequences of having to pay it back, money isn't free just as loans aren't for free.
How shall I help you? Am I supposed to pay back the loan you took to buy the properties?
Grace period? Not going to happen, I am not a scripter nor did I make the loan system. It was stated that there is no grace period for loans.
Loans interest will not be removed either, you took the loan all by yourself. We did not force players to take loans to purchase properties before they had an income method.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=103964

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I took out a loan and I no longer need it. What do I do?
There is no grace period, so be very careful. You will have to pay back the loan in addition to one week's interest if you pay it back within 7 days.



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Reply #25 on: March 04, 2014, 08:28:49 am
Well then i wouldn't have asked any grace period or any type of concession if the business system would be working. Why does the community release scripts or economy system before testing it properly? Bugs happen, and at the first day of release of economy system like 20 serious bugs were reported, why wasn't the economy system again disabled so that it could have a proper release again?

--I ain't debating here but i deserve the right to ask to scripters/developers.
I am not pleading for grace time, i am saying the whole business system is f**ked up and we ain't earning any shit so how would the scripters expect us to pay back shit in 60 days + interest added?
 


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Reply #26 on: March 04, 2014, 09:10:30 am
I am not pleading for grace time, i am saying the whole business system is f**ked up and we ain't earning any shit so how would the scripters expect us to pay back shit in 60 days + interest added?

They wouldn't. Instead they would expect you to exercise common sense by not taking out loans when you have insufficient income to pay off such a debt.

In the future one of these might come in handy.




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Reply #27 on: March 04, 2014, 09:15:33 am

Spoiler for No offense, but:
It's not their fault.
It's yours.
By taking a loan you have been warned about the risks; that theres no profit lays in the state of the economy as it is, players are set on saving money and will only spend when required.

Taking a loan requires you to know about actions for backing up, so that you can recover from the debt.



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Reply #28 on: March 04, 2014, 09:53:45 am
The problem here is that you're expecting the developers to spoon-feed you and give you a way (loans that you do not have to worry about) to get rich quick with minimum effort. Sorry, but that is not how it works.

So yes, the trouble you got into from your debts is your fault.

P.S: RS5 had a lot of bugs upon release for a reason that circumstances were beyond the SA:MP developers, so stop finding additional ways to blame them for your shortcomings.

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Reply #29 on: March 04, 2014, 10:59:50 am
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