Heroin Market Crisis

[Marcel]

Nailed it!



Weed is still not the same. This whole seeds thing should just pack up and head back to the workshop!
One seed, amount goes from 1 - 29. Yes, this should be luck. Not the rest.

Heroin is being worked on, so we really can't jump into conclusion on wether it's bad or not.

The sheer arrogance in your statements just amazes me. All you do is call scripts bad, but you miss a very essential point: come up with some solutions instead of moaning on what we have. Be thankful for a change.

[Stivi]

The sheer arrogance in your statements just amazes me. All you do is call scripts bad, but you miss a very essential point: come up with some solutions instead of moaning on what we have. Be thankful for a change.

Sorry, I don't recall you being part of the meeting I attended a while back with the SA:MP HQ about this very problem. I don't see you posting something about this problem other than bullshitting.

[Marcel]

I don't see you posting something about this problem other than bullshitting.

You should just become a better businessman if you seek to gain profit. You won't get it from the script, so you must interact with others. It's not as hard as it seems.

[Stivi]

If there would be no scripts:

Tell me how I could be making money by just buying and selling drugs, or just weed.
Tell me how I could be making money by owning a business.
Tell me how I could be making money as a cop/medic/fireman/driver/mechanic/hooker/etc.

Go back to reading and then come up with a proper post if you think that nothing should change.

[Acika]

People who are working with drugs are trying to report flaws in the system because system is broken.
And people who never did drugs are coming here to spread nonsense and bullshit.

PS: For those who dont know Lucianos price for weed is 0/g for 2 months already.

[Declan]

PS: For those who dont know Lucianos price for weed is 0/g for 2 months already.

Bad luck? 

[.Ken.]

PS: For those who dont know Lucianos price for weed is 0/g for 2 months already.

Josef checked it, it is 35p/g to him.

[CharlieKasper]

Lets say, A hobo can not be a drug buyer. Official and recognized are not just status but also levels which means they are senior from the normal group.

What?

No group is senior to other group just cause it has official recognized status and the other does not. It is JUST a reward for their contribution. It means shit in role play. What you are saying is the Government promoted you. LOL.

The drug market is again just a reward for being the most contributing group, same as group vehicles which was originally for official groups but was later made for recognized groups. It doesn't make you senior being a recognized group. There could be groups that can be way better than you at role play but still be normal group, and that's what it would make them a better group than other group. Get your facts straight. Stop spreading bull shit.

[Declan]

No group is senior to other group just cause it has official recognized status and the other does not. It is JUST a reward for their contribution. It means shit in role play. What you are saying is the Government promoted you. LOL.

Explain the contribution first of all? what we did? Activity?

What?



There could be groups that can be way better than you at role play but still be normal group, and that's what it would make them a better group than other group. Get your facts straight. Stop spreading bull shit.

If a normal group is better than a recognized family at roleplay then why don't they get recognized status? What contribution you are talking about? Or A normal group help the people and get recognized status? There are many of the players which are in normal group help the people and are active, they haven't still got the recognized status? Or it is all just about not rulebreaking?

I am not bullshitting.

[JDC]

An Official or a recognized family sell drugs to a normal group is just insullting(By Roleplay) which is so unfair.

There should be changings in the script, Official groups get highest price from the drugmarket and the recognized family lower, Normal groups get normal price from the drugmarket, who are not in any family get normal price as a normal group, that's it.

If this indeed is the official standpoint of Scotto (which I hope it isn't), then as ARUN Adviser, I may open a discussion for the purpose of re-evaluating your opportunities within ARUN, as we do not like to promote player groups who mistakenly believe they are innately superior to and better than everyone else on the server.

As for the question of roleplay ability vis-a-vis Official/Recognized status, a group can possess a high roleplay skill, but not so much in terms of contribution to the server. Contributions may also come in the form of just being active on the server and contributing to the playerbase, rather than monumental changes or legacies.

Official Groups get to exercise additional control over the drug market as a reward for their contributions, and it does not go further than that. While Official status may give them precedence over other groups in certain matters (as a reward, I repeat), it in no way makes them innately better than or superior to anyone else.

This means that any idea of treating Official/Recognized groups fairly as other groups being "insulting" is nothing more than a load of bullshit and (misplaced) self-entitlement.

Remember that one of the responsibilities of an Official/Recognized group is to serve as role-models to junior groups, something which certain factions (unfortunately) have not been adhering to. If this persists, their status may just be re-evaluated as well.

While Argonath may be an RPG server, your roleplay ability is worthless if you don't know how to be nice to others or contribute to this community properly.

[Declan]

While Argonath may be an RPG server, your roleplay ability is worthless if you don't know how to be nice to others or contribute to this community properly.

I agree what you say JDC, but you are talking about supriority now. Everyone should get same drug prices from drugmarket because it isn't equallity?

[Stivi]

I agree what you say JDC, but you are talking about supriority now. Everyone should get same drug prices from drugmarket because it isn't equallity?

And everyone should get jaield for the same amount because everyone is equal.

Being a criminal on Argonath is not the standard action movie criminal. You know, the one that talks tough and draws a gun at everything. Unfortunately for move fans, such criminals would never survive longer than a week. So how do we see a criminal?

We see a criminal as someone who enjoys taking risks. Risks that can bring a higher profit as the daily work of a citizen. but that also can cost a lot more when it goes wrong. This is what we have incorporated in to RS5.

First of all if you wish to become (or remain) rich as criminal going on a killing spree is not the best thing to do.

Crime familes are an important part. And some of the families have a standing that puts them above others, the official families.
Official families will get a state funded headquarter. Also they get the possibility to export drugs, thus keeping the market alive.

But the money making is not limited to things like drugs. In fact the making of money might be more from being the 'roof' of regular business.

As there will be a limitation to official families, this also gives them a responsibility. This means that it is possible for a family to lose their official status should they be found largely inactive or being abusive of their status. If that happens their state issued HQ will turn in to a normal one, and they lose the possibility to be exporting drugs.

So, Official families export drugs. That's the advatange. We can't talk about equality here.

Official families being the only one able to use the drug market could be unfair, somehow, to other families. But, giving a random price for drugs to each group, which could lead to a new group having a higher price than an official family, is absurd. One word, experience.

The way I see it, a middle way must be found. I propose:

Official families' price: 40/g - 49/g.
Recognized families' price: 30/g-39/g.
Normal families' price: 20/g - 29/g.

This will promote player-to-player trade, if that is what concern the developers. Why not take a higher price, maybe for a lower amount of drugs as well, when you can ?
And of course, group-to-group dealing. Normal groups will grow, and this will give them a boost to the way up.

[.Ken.]

I agree with Stivi.