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SAFD Fire Missions (earnings) - Fair/Unfair?

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on: April 28, 2014, 12:15:31 pm
Many people think the Firemissions are made pretty unfair.
Today, its all about keeping the location for yourself and rushing towards it for the most money.
Here is an example:
Some firemen stationairy at LSFD, the alarm goes of, I check the location... Willowfield LS.
Thats not even 30 seconds driving from LSFD.
When I arrived, the mission was already completed for 87%! One firesource Remaining: 15%
After the missions, many guys just say what they got from their mission.
Here is an example of just a few minutes ago:

This is just....  Ridiculous.
The money diffirence between Lil_Mama and Domic_Vendito is $4750!!!!
I understand all the complaints about the firemission, now that I'm playing as a fireman through the day.....

What is your opinion about the Firemission-system?

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Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 12:36:45 pm
The system,
1. Doesn't encourage teamwork
2. Doesn't encourage Roleplay
3. Unfair payments for firemen who chose to teamwork and help others.

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Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 12:38:57 pm
The system,
1. Doesn't encourage teamwork
2. Doesn't encourage Roleplay
3. Unfair payments for firemen who chose to teamwork and help others.
This is exactly the opposite of what they promised us during the closed beta.

I suggest returning RS4's fire mission styles, at least everyone was getting a fair chance, and people actually do preform teamwork.(Which is not splitting the mission percent by the amount of firemen online, btw.)


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Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 12:50:31 pm
I don't like the whole ''moneyfarming''. Roleplay should be the main focus.



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Reply #4 on: April 28, 2014, 12:53:36 pm
The system,
1. Doesn't encourage teamwork
2. Doesn't encourage Roleplay
3. Unfair payments for firemen who chose to teamwork and help others.
agreed.
went on fireman duty today as there was nothing else to do and all I can say that unfortunately most of the firemen are moneyhungry, instead of team working and driving each other to the fire location every one gets in his truck and doesnt let anyone get in, when there's a mission people start carjacking and carkilling each other just for that cash..lol
in my opinion it should be like 500$ or 1k for every firemen joining the mission, doesn't matter how many fires you have extinguised.




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Reply #5 on: April 28, 2014, 12:59:04 pm
This have been a long problem since RS5 Beta indeed.

Sorry to modify but it should be "ARFD Fire Missions"*.
What I see, as a SAFD Captain, is that some of the ARFD Voluntary Firefighters are not willing to roleplay and show teamwork and professionalism in the mission. Furthermore, this is a roleplay server, roleplay should be prioritised instead of money-making.

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Reply #6 on: April 28, 2014, 01:04:18 pm
Like TiMoN says... They should bring back the old Rs4 system, Engines to hold the fire on a low level and firemen on the ground to extinguish them. In Rs4 we had like all the same ammount of money from missions :cowboy:

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Reply #7 on: April 28, 2014, 01:07:27 pm
This have been a long problem since RS5 Beta indeed.

Sorry to modify but it should be "ARFD Fire Missions"*.
What I see, as a SAFD Captain, is that some of the ARFD Voluntary Firefighters are not willing to roleplay and show teamwork and professionalism in the mission. Furthermore, this is a roleplay server, roleplay should be prioritised instead of money-making.

This is what the truth is, no one can deny it and what's even sadder is that players who do roleplay actually spend less time on the fire, therefore they actually earn less than the one who didn't roleplay. Not only that but a lack of script ideas that we asked for were failed to be recongised and cast aside.

Also guys if you could open a topic on the ARFD Forums regarding this, this idea should be forwarded there as SugarD has stated multiple times. 


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Reply #8 on: April 28, 2014, 01:09:27 pm
This have been a long problem since RS5 Beta indeed.

Sorry to modify but it should be "ARFD Fire Missions"*.
What I see, as a SAFD Captain, is that some of the ARFD Voluntary Firefighters are not willing to roleplay and show teamwork and professionalism in the mission. Furthermore, this is a roleplay server, roleplay should be prioritised instead of money-making.
Nicely said. :app:



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Reply #9 on: April 28, 2014, 01:11:38 pm
This is what the truth is, no one can deny it and what's even sadder is that players who do roleplay actually spend less time on the fire, therefore they actually earn less than the one who didn't roleplay. Not only that but a lack of script ideas that we asked for were failed to be recongised and cast aside.

Also guys if you could open a topic on the ARFD Forums regarding this, this idea should be forwarded there as SugarD has stated multiple times.

The Thing is... The Rs5 test server for admins didn't support 'us' players to test the server, there were like 5 admins max online or 3... they couldn't know there would be 30 firemen, rushing to the fire for the money only... They Should have invited players to the test server to report bugs by theirself instead of admins trying to find them.

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Reply #10 on: April 28, 2014, 01:14:53 pm
The Thing is... The Rs5 test server for admins didn't support 'us' players to test the server, there were like 5 admins max online or 3... they couldn't know there would be 30 firemen, rushing to the fire for the money only... They Should have invited players to the test server to report bugs by theirself instead of admins trying to find them.

A major issue since that closed beta wasn't done for long enough obviously and that they didn't invite the correct players. If I am correct; only one person in the ranked structure of ARFD actually was allowed to participate in the closed beta, that number should've been higher.

Also guys move here please; http://www.arfd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=2147.0


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Reply #11 on: April 28, 2014, 01:20:13 pm
A major issue since that closed beta wasn't done for long enough obviously and that they didn't invite the correct players. If I am correct; only one person in the ranked structure of ARFD actually was allowed to participate in the closed beta, that number should've been higher.

Also guys move here please; http://www.arfd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=2147.0

If they can't change it to the old RS4 mission system... They should At least make more firesources and bigger missions that take a longer time to Extinguish

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Reply #12 on: April 28, 2014, 01:22:39 pm
The Thing is... The Rs5 test server for admins didn't support 'us' players to test the server, there were like 5 admins max online or 3... they couldn't know there would be 30 firemen, rushing to the fire for the money only... They Should have invited players to the test server to report bugs by theirself instead of admins trying to find them.



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Reply #13 on: April 28, 2014, 01:25:56 pm


Admins were not the only testers.
If I am correct; only one person in the ranked structure of ARFD actually was allowed to participate in the closed beta, that number should've been higher.


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Reply #14 on: April 28, 2014, 01:48:29 pm
Let's discuss some things of RS4 FD system

Pros
1. Without teamwork , it was a nearly impossible mission
2. Locations were set such that, you feel the hardness
3. Heli's and others made it to look pro

Cons
-Low Pays
- Known locations
- Firemen went for drugs instead of missions
- High time interval
- Cant use engine

Best Remedy
1.Making locations tough
Gosh, it's damn easy to find a location of pager and run there like cats and dogs
[a] Add new locations. Make some like, reaching there on vehicles is impossible

2.Equal Pays for "On foot" and "On engine"
You may think this is already stated but heavens sake the situation now is totally different. Till you spray like 3% of mission, 97% is done by engine and they earn much. So there is always fight for trucks.
Suggestions-
[a] Increase percent, while spraying we do like 3% in one spray. It must be raised to 5% equal to engines
 Engines must not be able to spray on more than one source at a time.

3.Equality of places.
[a] Same number of missions in each city and they must take place regularly. No mission must come in the same city twice in a row. This won't make firemen goto other stations. Well, if once in LS, it could be in red county too.

4. Refreshing Look
[a] Add helicopters so that "on foot" players can reach there easily too while the engines run away.

5. Fueling up
[a] There must be working GS on the fire stations .

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