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Qatar 2022 World Cup, - no shorts, shirts, dress, or vests

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Reply #165 on: June 05, 2014, 04:13:31 pm
It offends non-believers that are forced to follow your religion.

How is t-shirt offending you, just explain me that. Do you hate to see human skin, is it gross to you?
no one should be offended.


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Reply #166 on: June 05, 2014, 04:45:13 pm
I agreed with him, i am not saying that my religion is superior. Corey was right, shorts..skirts etc. are not part of any religion so no one should be offended.
Corey said that shorts and t-shirts are not part of any religion so there would be no problem in banning them and you agreed with that.

So I'm asking you, how do you get offended by looking at human skin?



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Reply #167 on: June 05, 2014, 08:20:20 pm
Please tell me how wearing a t-shirt and a pair of shorts is disrespecting god.
Um. All I said was disrespecting god will get you in trouble.
So please sir, do tell me where I said that wearing a t-shirt and a pair of shorts is disrespecting god..... Quote it, go on.

Well it's not part of my religion and I see no reason why should I obey someone elses gods.
Well if it makes you "feel" any better, take it this way.. You're following the law of the country. Better? Trust me, you're far away from following our religion by just following a umm -dress code-.

Just wow. What kind of ignorance is this

Do you just love quoting more than once and replying with more crap just for the sake of increasing your post count?

I pity how narrow your mind

I pity you so much....x9999. Umm... As "narrow" as you claim his mind is, at least he uses it  :rofl:. You on the other hand probably got yours "on hold" huh?

So, you get to wear a towel on your head because 'god ordered you'. Sure. Do what you believe. But you are naive if you expect that disallowing shorts and skirts wont offend anyone.

Please, write me a book telling me how much it offends you when someone disallows you to wear ... Shorts.

Dont go around talking bullshit, claiming that shorts are offensive to your religion and should be banned. So what if I wear shorts. How does that bother you?
Corey said that shorts and t-shirts are not part of any religion so there would be no problem in banning them and you agreed with that.

So I'm asking you, how do you get offended by looking at human skin?

Quote from:  Imam Ali
The eye is the spy of the hearts and the messenger of the intellect; therefore lower your gaze from whatever is not appropriate to your faith...

Shorts / skirts etc.. are not offensive to our religion, Let me explain to you why it's better to dress modestly. We do so to prevent ourselves from looking at the opposite sex in a lustful way, and we must dress so that we are regarded with respect. The sight of a beautiful woman in a revealing dress may bring feelings of unwanted and inappropriate arousal. I hope that answers you.

Oh and before someone decides to play the "fool" card and say: " Oh not our problem if you get turned on easily ".. Keep that for yourself.


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Reply #168 on: June 05, 2014, 08:22:33 pm
Shorts / skirts etc.. are not offensive to our religion, Let me explain to you why it's better to dress modestly. We do so to prevent ourselves from looking at the opposite sex in a lustful way, and we must dress so that we are regarded with respect. The sight of a beautiful woman in a revealing dress may bring feelings of unwanted and inappropriate arousal. I hope that answers you.
What is wrong with that? You are preventing yourself from having a good time.

You are pretty much supposed to look at opposite sex in lustful way.



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Reply #169 on: June 05, 2014, 08:40:40 pm
What is wrong with that? You are preventing yourself from having a good time.

You are pretty much supposed to look at opposite sex in lustful way.

Well I'm guessing by "good time" you're referring to sex before marriage eh'? Well fornication(zina) is a grave sin, so no thank you  :D.

Oh and studies show that having sex before marriage causes an 80% higher chance of divorce... If you want to have no family life.. Have a "good time" ;P ( Just saying haha )


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Reply #170 on: June 05, 2014, 08:56:38 pm
Well I'm guessing by "good time" you're referring to sex before marriage eh'? Well fornication(zina) is a grave sin, so no thank you  :D.

Oh and studies show that having sex before marriage causes an 80% higher chance of divorce... If you want to have no family life.. Have a "good time" ;P ( Just saying haha )
You really hate your freedom on this world, don't you?

This is why I hate every religion, people believe because they are afraid, not because they like it.



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Reply #171 on: June 05, 2014, 09:07:25 pm
That conclusion though... :
You really hate your freedom on this world, don't you?
Right...
Anyway
This is why I hate every religion, people believe because they are afraid, not because they like it.
Umm what? I LOVE my religion.. and I definitely fear god.



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Reply #172 on: June 05, 2014, 09:47:24 pm
Nothing new here, this is what every gulf country with oil and money does. Much like what every Arabic country does, those who are "citizens" have the rights to nearly do anything, even drive unlicensed and avoid trouble.

Still kinda sad :( poor people!


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Reply #173 on: June 06, 2014, 01:23:37 am
The World Cup should have never be hosted in Qatar and I hope it is withdrawn. Australia or a joint Scandinavian represantation would have been a much better candidate than the World Cup awarded to a corrupt corporation with not even considerable football tradition. Not to mention people having their rights oppressed.

Keep arguing about religions and traditions, how people should do this and that while all of you miss the big picture. This World Cup will be built on oil and blood.



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Reply #174 on: June 06, 2014, 01:38:48 am
I heard Qatar payed $5 million in bribes to win this.

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Reply #175 on: June 06, 2014, 02:17:21 am
Oh and studies show that having sex before marriage causes an 80% higher chance of divorce... If you want to have no family life.. Have a "good time" ;P ( Just saying haha )
And studies shows that 49% percent of marriages are ending up in divorce. So what's the point of even getting married?
Marriages that is forced or made by parents, cash or family in general is not a marriage for me. You love who you love, you should not be told who to love and who to marry based on what your religion is, what ethnicity or how much you get if you marry someone.



And to be a little on the subject, asking fellow visitors to show respect by wearing thick and warm clothes in extreme temperatures is not showing your guests respect. Learn to respect other's way of living, no matter which race they have or what religion they salute. Just as much as we (let's say Sweden) respect other religions and other ways of people's life highlights. As much as we respect people wearing burqa, being homosexual and whatnot in our country, let people be exactly how they want in YOUR country. It's not even by showing you respect, it's about welcoming your visitors and let them be exactly as they are.

You host one of the biggest events in the world, and it's not about you feeling good or bad about people's clothing - it's about hosting a marvelous event and letting all these people enjoy it in your country, exactly as they are. Open your eyes and respect other's way of living, not only your own.



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Reply #176 on: June 06, 2014, 02:41:46 am
Umm wearing a burka is "part" of the religion. Therefore it might of have offended them..
So? Who gives a shit really?

Get over it basically.

I definitely fear god.
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Reply #177 on: June 06, 2014, 03:23:10 am
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Reply #178 on: June 06, 2014, 06:35:36 am
It's horrendous, just how clueless and brainwashed and selfish you are. Its not really your fault though.  You were just unfortunate to be born into an indoctrinating, unquestioning part of the world.


Please, write me a book telling me how much it offends you when someone disallows you to wear ... Shorts.

Its my right to wear whatever I want, it's my most natural human right. Why should I change the way I dress because of YOUR religion? Your religion does not concern me. Does your religious view mean more than mine? Besides, Wearing shorts isn't indecent clothing. 

It pisses me off that you say that I shouldnt be offended so casually. It just shows how narrow minded and ignorant you are.  Stop looking at the world from your own indoctrinated point of view. You are human. Your most natural behaviour is to be curious. Look at everywhere in the world, not just the Islamic part.


Let me explain to you why it's better to dress modestly. We do so to prevent ourselves from looking at the opposite sex in a lustful way, and we must dress so that we are regarded with respect.
Not everyone is shallow. Some people actually wear tshirts and shorts for their function: Comfort. Unfortunately you obviously do not have an expanded world view, and are commenting on stuff you have no idea about from your little cave.


The sight of a beautiful woman in a revealing dress may bring feelings of unwanted and inappropriate arousal. I hope that answers you.
Then dont look at her. Control your urges. If you fear god as much as you say, a woman wearing a dress should not break your willpower. If it does, then maybe you should be questioning your faith. Rather then taking it out on a woman who wants to feel some comfort in 40 degrees Celsius.

Look at this from another angle rather your own. To sane people, covering all up in blistering summer heat of Qatar is unhealthy.

 News flash to you my friend, a skirt and tshirt isnt a mating call. If you perceive that it is, maybe its just you who has a perverted, dirty mind.




Now, let me try talking in a language you may understand:

“Let there be no compulsion in religion.. ” The Holy Quran, Chapter 2, Verse 256.

See that? The god that you fear and believe in is telling you something. There is no force in religion. Let people wear and do as they like. Thats an order from your god. Dont be hypocritical and listen to him, eh?



And to be a little on the subject, asking fellow visitors to show respect by wearing thick and warm clothes in extreme temperatures is not showing your guests respect. Learn to respect other's way of living, no matter which race they have or what religion they salute. Just as much as we (let's say Sweden) respect other religions and other ways of people's life highlights. As much as we respect people wearing burqa, being homosexual and whatnot in our country, let people be exactly how they want in YOUR country. It's not even by showing you respect, it's about welcoming your visitors and let them be exactly as they are.

You host one of the biggest events in the world, and it's not about you feeling good or bad about people's clothing - it's about hosting a marvelous event and letting all these people enjoy it in your country, exactly as they are. Open your eyes and respect other's way of living, not only your own.
Very well said man. Much respect.




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Reply #179 on: June 06, 2014, 06:48:33 am
Alright i cant fucking stand this, please stope quoting the Qu'ran. By quoting just one verse does not prove your argument, there is always more to it, ALWAYS. And if you haven't read the Qu'ran yourself then please shut the fuck up and stop compressing the actual meaning of the verses.


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