[Denied] Antonio_Gvardia banned by McLaren

[Antonio.]

Your in-game name:
Antonio_Gvardia

Ban reason as was stated in-game:
Racism

Admin who banned you:
McLaren

When you were banned:
Few minutes ago

Additional notes:
I was having a conversation with one of my closest friends on Argonath, in a cb channel where were provoking nobody but one another (everyone else in the cb channel was affected by our remarks), and the most important thing, we were joking and have these conversations a lot.

I don't know why I was bothering anyone, I know Andy wasn't bothered as I'm sure he didn't report me and he knew we were joking. Someone here just wanted someone banned, because that was no reason to ban us as nobody was being provoked, and nobody saw the content in OUR cb channel.

[Antonio.]

everyone else in the cb channel was NOT affected by our remarks*

[Conroy]

It doesn't matter where you were talking, if you're told to stop, you stop. You ignored Sauron's message and continued. Joke or not, racism is not accepted here.

[Antonio.]

It doesn't matter where you were talking, if you're told to stop, you stop. You ignored Sauron's message and continued. Joke or not, racism is not accepted here.

Okay, so who's the person I need to apologize here, because I don't see what I did wrong; nobody got mad, nobody reported me, it's just someone banning me for "racism" when it wasn't even that.

[Conroy]

I'm not looking for an apology. I want you to let me know that it won't happen again, even if it's in private.

All it takes is a typo and the message gets sent to everyone in the server, which is why racism stops before mistakes happen.

[Antonio.]

I'm not looking for an apology. I want you to let me know that it won't happen again, even if it's in private.

All it takes is a typo and the message gets sent to everyone in the server, which is why racism stops before mistakes happen.

The problem here is, there was no typo and more importantly, there was nobody who felt racially abused. If Andy confirms to you that I racially abused him, you may feel free to deny this unban request forever.

If I make a typo, then yes, I would take full responsibility.

[Conroy]

I never claimed that you did make a typo, I simply put a stop to it before any were made. I gave a verbal warning to stop the racism in the CB channel and it was ignored, which is why you are here.

As you are arguing against this ban, I am going to assume that you find this behaviour acceptable. If that's the case, then I will go ahead and close this unban request.

[Antonio.]

Please enlighten me what was so racism, and please get Andy to confirm that he was racially abused. My ban was for "racism", however where's the racism...?

[Conroy]

I'm not going to post the logs here for obvious reasons, but I will give you a brief summary. I am however unable to access the logs for another 24 hours, that is just how the server works. If you really want to dispute this ban, then you will have to wait.

[Antonio.]

I'm not going to post the logs here for obvious reasons, but I will give you a brief summary. I am however unable to access the logs for another 24 hours, that is just how the server works. If you really want to dispute this ban, then you will have to wait.

Cool, you can get a confirmation of who's been racially abused in the meantime.

[Conroy]

Cool, you can get a confirmation of who's been racially abused in the meantime.

I will wait until I see the logs, however I do recall a conversation regarding Turkish footballers, ancestors and a few remarks to Andy about him being Turkish. I don't care if he didn't find it offensive, it's still racism.

[Antonio.]

I will wait until I see the logs, however I do recall a conversation regarding Turkish footballers, ancestors and a few remarks to Andy about him being Turkish. I don't care if he didn't find it offensive, it's still racism.

I said Real Madrid's shoe-shiner was a Turk; I was regarding to Nuri Sahin, who was a Real Madrid player. That has nothing to do with racism...

The part about ancestors is actually true if you do just a bit of research.

And Andy is indeed a Turk, so there's no problem there. If I call him a "fucking retard" or a "fucking retarded Turk" doesn't really matter, because he IS a Turk. If you're Dutch and you're a retard then you're a "retarded Dutchman", nothing racist about it...

[Antonio.]

So...

[Conroy]

The logs confirm what I said earlier. I am not going to waste my time arguing about whether or not you find this behaviour acceptable, it isn't, and you won't be unbanned until you realise that.

[Antonio.]

Joke or not, racism is not accepted here.

Conroy, please stop being a hypocrite. How often have you joked around with Gvardia members, constantly tp'd to them and DM'd them over and over. We could have reported you for DM and abusing admin powers despite the fact that it was a joke, but because it was a joke, we didn't take it serious.

In this case, not only were me and Andy joking, but we weren't even being racist. You now have the logs, please post some examples of the "racism" that you speak of.

The logs confirm what I said earlier. I am not going to waste my time arguing about whether or not you find this behaviour acceptable, it isn't, and you won't be unbanned until you realise that.

You're not going to waste your time doing your job? You have us waiting on you in order to retrieve those logs. You now have them and refuse to show us any examples of the racism that you've been claiming. You got both players admitting that nobody has been racially abused, yet you're still the one who's right somehow.