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Saudi Arabian student killed in Colchester attack named by police

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A Saudi Arabian student who died after being attacked on a footpath in Essex has been identified by police.

Detectives are investigating the possibility that Nahid Almanea, 31, was targeted in Colchester because of her Muslim dress.

She was attacked while walking on the Salary Brook trail on Tuesday morning. Paramedics tried to save her but she died at the scene from head and body injuries.

The University of Essex student, who was living in the town, was wearing a dark navy-blue abaya, or full-length robe, with a patterned, multicoloured hijab headscarf.

DS Tracy Hawkings said officers were keeping an open mind about the motive for the attack.

Hawkings added: "We are conscious that the dress of the victim will have identified her as likely being a Muslim and this is one of the main lines of the investigation, but again there is no firm evidence at this time that she was targeted because of her religion."

Officers are also looking at possible links with the murder of James Attfield, a vulnerable man with brain damage, who died after being stabbed more than 100 times in a park in the town in March.

The Saudi Arabian embassy confirmed that Prince Mohammed bin Nawaf bin Abdulaziz, ambassador to the UK, had contacted the woman's family and was in contact with Essex police.

The University of Essex has informed all staff and students about the attack and reminded them of safety procedures, a spokeswoman said.

She added: "Our thoughts are with the family and friends of the young woman who died, and we are deeply saddened by this tragic incident. The university is providing every possible assistance to the police."

source: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jun/19/saudi-arabian-student-nahid-almanea-killed-colchester-essex-attack
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Now after all, and as usual, the killer will be most likely claimed to have "mental issues".
The question that arises; If it was all the way around, a British citizen/student killed in an Islamic country, wouldn't it be condemned and claimed to be as a hateful terrorist attack?


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The question that arises; If it was all the way around, a British citizen/student killed in an Islamic country, wouldn't it be condemned and claimed to be as a hateful terrorist attack?
No, no one would pay attention then, it's a hate crime if white man kills Muslim or black guy.



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This is really sad.

"The question that arises; If it was all the way around, a British citizen/student killed in an Islamic country, wouldn't it be condemned and claimed to be as a hateful terrorist attack?"

Solid question. It just shows two things: the Islamic nations are powerless infront of F/S World peers, and the latter do care about their citizens. For instance, many Moroccans died as hostages of extremist groups in the sub-Sahara; nobody cares. If it was a country like UK or France, it would definitely provide an enormous effort.

It's the media that provokes a reaction... this case isn't hyped much, thus it will be burried eventually.

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This is really sad.

"The question that arises; If it was all the way around, a British citizen/student killed in an Islamic country, wouldn't it be condemned and claimed to be as a hateful terrorist attack?"

Solid question. It just shows two things: the Islamic nations are powerless infront of F/S World peers, and the latter do care about their citizens. For instance, many Moroccans died as hostages of extremist groups in the sub-Sahara; nobody cares. If it was a country like UK or France, it would definitely provide an enormous effort.

It's the media that provokes a reaction... this case isn't hyped much, thus it will be burried eventually.

And this shows the huge gap that exists between East and West. A western soul is not any better than an eastern one, and vice versa. Every soul should be appreciated, no matter what its nationality or religion is.

The media taking this side actually indicates to how much hate can be given to the Muslims in case the case was all the way around, they would call them nothing but hateful terrorists and picture them as illegal criminals out of law wanting just to destroy and kill everyone that disagrees with them. This is the wrong picture that the brainwashed western media aims to give to the Western viewer/listener/reader, which is completely wrong. Our religion has never aimed to that, but achieving peace.


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Read 2nd post.

The media taking this side actually indicates to how much hate can be given to the Muslims in case the case was all the way around, they would call them nothing but hateful terrorists and picture them as illegal criminals out of law wanting just to destroy and kill everyone that disagrees with them.
Well, Muslims pretty much killed everyone who didn't agree with their religion in the past.

And they suicide often.

Oh and there are many illegal immigrants.



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Well, Muslims pretty much killed everyone who didn't agree with their religion in the past.
Wrong, those aren't really Muslims. Just bunch of wannabes trying to control something under the name of Islam to ruin their reputation more.



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Wrong, those aren't really Muslims. Just bunch of wannabes trying to control something under the name of Islam to ruin their reputation more.
Thank those wannabes for spreading your religion. I doubt that anyone would hear about Islam if Muslims didn't spread their religion by force.



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Well, Muslims pretty much killed everyone who didn't agree with their religion in the past.

Please have some neutral history lessons. Muslims in the past never attacked anyone without self-defense. Most of nations back then wanted the Islamic Empire to be destroyed due to its continuous expanding and growing strength, just like what the US does to the African nations these days; they know that they are well-populated nations, with countless resources in their lands, so they plant conflicts here and there to prevent them from uniting and stand together, they simply don't want someone else to compete with them in ruling the world, and that what was happening in the past, too. Muslims were clear about their strategies, self-defense is always there, but as long as you're peaceful, so we are.

And they suicide often.

Oh and there are many illegal immigrants.

As Khm said, the ones you call 'suiciders' are totally out of Islam as Islam completely disallows humans to end their lives by their own (I'm sure you would have acknowledged that if you had the basic information about Islam, but clearly you don't, except maybe for some western media reports?). As he also said, those people use the name of Islam to do these actions are totally condemned and not welcome in Islam, but does that justify the killings of millions by the US and its allies in Iraq and other countries? Does this justify the murder of the innocent student heading to her university in the morning to be stabbed to death in a park?
No.

Thank those wannabes for spreading your religion. I doubt that anyone would hear about Islam if Muslims didn't spread their religion by force.

Have you forgotten your ancestors killing and occupying lands for 'religion'? Crusades? Does that ring any bell to you?


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Both Christians and Muslims have had problems in the past, and the Crusades was a particularly bad time for both, but there was a short period when BOTH sides lived in harmony in Jerusalem, and it in the end failed due to extremists on BOTH sides!

However this topic although I do not think intended (and hope was not) has led to some commenting regarding the aspects of east/west and religion, and I would strongly advise that all keep in mind this is a publicly viewable forum and the case in matter is still under investigation.

It has not mattered who the person was, a crime has been committed and the UK Police force will investigate using all means possible, we are learning to be more tolerant, but like ANY nation there are extremists who will do things to get noticed and to sow distrust and they may (or may not) be involved.

To be a killer you do not have to be of any religion so any assumption its on religious grounds is unwise

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Please have some neutral history lessons. Muslims in the past never attacked anyone without self-defense. Most of nations back then wanted the Islamic Empire to be destroyed due to its continuous expanding and growing strength, just like what the US does to the African nations these days; they know that they are well-populated nations, with countless resources in their lands, so they plant conflicts here and there to prevent them from uniting and stand together, they simply don't want someone else to compete with them in ruling the world, and that what was happening in the past, too. Muslims were clear about their strategies, self-defense is always there, but as long as you're peaceful, so we are.
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Have you forgotten your ancestors killing and occupying lands for 'religion'? Crusades? Does that ring any bell to you?
My ancestors believed in Perun, Svarog and other Slavic gods.

And no I am not a Christian.



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Now after all, and as usual, the killer will be most likely claimed to have "mental issues".
The question that arises; If it was all the way around, a British citizen/student killed in an Islamic country, wouldn't it be condemned and claimed to be as a hateful terrorist attack?

No, and it has happened countless times before yet there isn't much hype about it in the media. It's only a hate crime if it's a white guy vs the rest.

Our religion has never aimed to that, but achieving peace.
Please have some neutral history lessons. Muslims in the past never attacked anyone without self-defense. Most of nations back then wanted the Islamic Empire to be destroyed due to its continuous expanding and growing strength, [...], and that what was happening in the past, too. Muslims were clear about their strategies, self-defense is always there, but as long as you're peaceful, so we are.

And I'm totally sure the Islamic empire expanded through peaceful preaching, right? Do show me when did the Berbers, Spaniards, Persians, Anatolians, Indians, Eastern Europeans and other peoples your religion conquered ever attacked first. Because I'm sure they didn't knew of its existence down in Arabia before they were subjugated by the sword. Only folks I know of who actually attacked the Muslims without any previous provocation were the Mongols, and some of 'em ended up converting to Islam.

but does that justify the killings of millions by the US and its allies in Iraq and other countries? Does this justify the murder of the innocent student heading to her university in the morning to be stabbed to death in a park?
No.

Yeah, and those "millions" (which is actually a hundred thousand) of civilians were killed... by other Muslims. US and its allies only got the majority of civilian deaths in the first two months of the war when they took over Baghdad. The rest of the killings were done by anti-government groups and unknown actors.

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Have you forgotten your ancestors killing and occupying lands for 'religion'? Crusades? Does that ring any bell to you?
Crusades.

That's like comparing a cat and a lion and saying they're both equally as bad. Not that that exonerates Islam in any way, as Rami seems to be implying. Also, Petar's ancestors probably lived in the Balkans and not France or Italy where most of the Crusaders came from.



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All are now disrespecting each others religion,wtf  :mad:



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That's like comparing a cat and a lion and saying they're both equally as bad. Not that that exonerates Islam in any way, as Rami seems to be implying. Also, Petar's ancestors probably lived in the Balkans and not France or Italy where most of the Crusaders came from.
You're talking about violent acts on religious basis, crusades are the Christian equivalent, just like the modern colonization of the whole world from approx 1898 onwards which usually went together with wiping out the natives. If you like to talk about Petar's Balkan ancestors, the 90ies Balkan war was started and waged by Orthodox Christians. If you like to place islam in such a bad light, you might take religion as a whole with you in order to sound less biased, friend.



 


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