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Offline MikeSangelo

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Reply #15 on: June 22, 2014, 07:47:23 pm
Good luck with all the changes, VC:MP!


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Reply #16 on: June 22, 2014, 08:35:14 pm
Well done to Kessu for taking action on this, because its been a known issue for a long time now. Since Leo stepped down VCPD has sadly never been the same, and I think its due to them not being able to keep up with the likes of EAF and other clans in terms of recruitment, training, and camaraderie. A lot of the current officers lack the enthusiasm to play due to the pressure and constant demoralization by criminals such as "this fucking noob cop dies 20 times lmfao". It's time for VCPD to really man up now and make an effort instead of crying about pointless stuff and looking for others to blame.

I'll try to re-gain my activity.
Don't just say it here because forums don't really mean anything in terms of activity, something VCPD haven't understood for a long while. Get yourself ingame and show everyone that you really do have the enthusiasm to play.


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Reply #17 on: June 22, 2014, 09:20:30 pm
Well done to Kessu for taking action on this, because its been a known issue for a long time now. Since Leo stepped down VCPD has sadly never been the same, and I think its due to them not being able to keep up with the likes of EAF and other clans in terms of recruitment, training, and camaraderie. A lot of the current officers lack the enthusiasm to play due to the pressure and constant demoralization by criminals such as "this f**king noob cop dies 20 times lmfao". It's time for VCPD to really man up now and make an effort instead of crying about pointless stuff and looking for others to blame.
Don't just say it here because forums don't really mean anything in terms of activity, something VCPD haven't understood for a long while. Get yourself ingame and show everyone that you really do have the enthusiasm to play.

I am already out there IG, I got very active, especially the last days, will make trainings/meetings for VCPD the whole summer, trying to get it back on the track as an Officer of it.



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Reply #18 on: June 22, 2014, 10:05:15 pm
Well, at first I was terrified when I saw this at ARPD forums, I'll be honest. I was like "WTF? KLAUS VCPD CHIEF? VC:MP'S NUMBER 1 CRIMINAL AS VCPD CHIEF? THIS CAN'T BE RIGHT" and contacted CBFasi right away to find out what the heck is going on, but then when he explained me the whole situation and as of why he has taken such steps, I could see the reasoning and actually kind of support this decision now. We must see Klaus not only as the criminal, but also as the manager of the server, who holds the responsibility to fix something that is wrong with the server, and at this point, everything was wrong with the VCPD, especially the length it took to get past the application process, which was the reason why applicants would loose interest so quickly, me being amongst them, and I'm glad Klaus finally, as a server manager, took steps to make some reforms that would be beneficial to the law enforcement. And with that said, you'll probably see me roaming Vice City streets again as soon as I'm done with the FBI academy :)

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Reply #19 on: June 24, 2014, 06:52:14 pm
 :gand: Be aware that I am going to try and keep tabs on this.

Legend has now been in contact and I will be working with him and Dani (Klaus has yet to contact me on skype)

I have hopes that with the help of 'the enemy' that VC:PD rises to the challenge to provide a very suitable opposition to the criminals.   :dance: :smack: you need two side to make this work !

Afterall if the cops suck, the criminals have no challenge and also leave the server.  Sorting this VC:PD activity and ability out will benefit the whole server (which is not too far behind SAMP on numbers :neutral2:.)

I also think I may suggest some alternative ways to deal with some of the script changes that went against criminals which sounded good in thoery but might be more manageable in a different way but have the same affect under certain conditions.


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Reply #20 on: June 24, 2014, 07:16:43 pm




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Reply #21 on: June 25, 2014, 04:57:24 am
The situation of FBI at the moment is partly my fault, for not having designated a successor when I resigned. (although in hindsight, it was partly due to me having felt that none of my Agents were ready to fill the Director post anywhere near the level I did)

This is interesting, and hopefully it works. I should be visiting now and then, and hopefully, if I can manage things on the SA:MP end a little better, (still adjusting as I am on break from University, which caused my earlier resignation) I should be able to return as a regular.

In the meantime, VCPD is welcome to ask me for any professional advice, especially organizational- and strategic-wise.

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Reply #22 on: June 25, 2014, 12:29:01 pm
The situation of FBI at the moment is partly my fault, for not having designated a successor when I resigned. (although in hindsight, it was partly due to me having felt that none of my Agents were ready to fill the Director post anywhere near the level I did)

This is interesting, and hopefully it works. I should be visiting now and then, and hopefully, if I can manage things on the SA:MP end a little better, (still adjusting as I am on break from University, which caused my earlier resignation) I should be able to return as a regular.

In the meantime, VCPD is welcome to ask me for any professional advice, especially organizational- and strategic-wise.
You becoming active on vcmp would be a nice touch, same to all the other SAMPers i have talked to in SAMP.


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Reply #23 on: June 25, 2014, 12:57:18 pm
Start playing already lol :rofl:

I have and I'm now fully active on VC:MP. I left it before due to certain internal issues in the server that now seem to be fixed, and I'm more than I glad that I did come back :)

The situation of FBI at the moment is partly my fault, for not having designated a successor when I resigned. (although in hindsight, it was partly due to me having felt that none of my Agents were ready to fill the Director post anywhere near the level I did)

This is interesting, and hopefully it works. I should be visiting now and then, and hopefully, if I can manage things on the SA:MP end a little better, (still adjusting as I am on break from University, which caused my earlier resignation) I should be able to return as a regular.

In the meantime, VCPD is welcome to ask me for any professional advice, especially organizational- and strategic-wise.

In my opinion, Verz was a great candidate, the fact being that when suddenly everyone in VCPD and VC:MP server as a whole became inactive, him and Legend were the only ones trying to do something about it. However, I think that the ARPD Commissioner and VCPD Chief must make things work in VCPD itself first and only then current FBI's situation and possible changes should be discussed, as the most important thing, in my opinion, is to have the basic law enforcement up and running first, and only then VCPD can focus on it's subdivisions.

But to be honest, the problem is not in VCPD. The problem is in Argonath VC:MP. The server activity overall is just way too low. It's kind of funny when you think about it, how we expect the VCPD to rise, when there is no material for the VCPD to rise from. In order for VCPD to recruit, we need more new regular players, because the current player base is: [EAF], [DC] - VCPD. How do you expect VCPD to grow, if all people who are not in VCPD are criminals? Until the activity of VC:MP doesn't get back on it's feet, the VCPD will not be able to stand up either. You can't feed 1000 people with one loaf of bread, well, unless youre Jesus, exactly the same here - VCPD can't grow active if it has no resources to do so. Legend did the best he could with the resources he had, so maybe the problem is not in VCPD afterall?

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Reply #24 on: June 25, 2014, 02:32:29 pm
The server has nearly same activity as SAMP does at the moment, so I don't quite see the problem with it. But yeah, the fact is most of the server consists of EAF members, but EAF has recruited it's members over the span of 6 years which VCPD was also able to do.

The low activity in VCPD is due to the fact that VCPD members (the veterans) left VC:MP and VCPD and haven't seen since, whilst EAF members stayed out there. That's why VCPD needs to recruit again :(

Tho' that's easily fixable (if we get the master serverlist back up) with new players joining in all the time, as long as VCPD is there to create that spark of interest.


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Reply #25 on: June 25, 2014, 04:43:17 pm
I shall sign up for VC:PD and keep the exuberant city of Vice clean from crime!

as soon as I'm unbanned that is



 


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