Sorry can't get addicted to Argonath RPG

[Malik.]

Especially the kind of you, with all the talk and no walk, where the only thing you do is cry how shit the gamemode is but do nothing, as a player , to contribute to it's repairs.

Funny that you say that, when I am almost online everyday. People are contributing but we aren't getting anything back or atleast it's taking too long and ofcourse scripters have lives but doesn't that mean you don't fit the job because of real life issues? Also you are just blaming people you don't even know who contribute, you think he moans, he doesnt help and does not play and blablabla. Well I am a player that contributes with activity and doesn't like it one bit. We want change, now.

[Huntsman]

Funny that you say that, when I am almost online everyday. People are contributing but we aren't getting anything back or atleast it's taking too long and ofcourse scripters have lives but doesn't that mean you don't fit the job because of real life issues? Also you are just blaming people you don't even know who contribute, you think he moans, he doesnt help and does not play and blablabla. Well I am a player that contributes with activity and doesn't like it one bit. We want change, now.

I'm not trying to prove that you're not online every day, what I'm saying is your shitting is not giving any encouragement. Instead of posting all that bullshit against RS5, you could have went to the ideas section and thought of something useful.

Bullshit. Even you were spamming the forum with criticism against developers and their work.

Incorrect. I was not criticising the developers work, I was criticizing the server's management's refusal to listen to what players have to say, to which they do now, once they saw how serious the situation really is. I'd also google the definition of spam if I were you. Accusing one of spam out of blue could be taken as an insult, ya' know.

[Dean.]

RS5 falling a part ...

Maybe because people like you keep saying it is. Instead of constantly complaining about every single thing that you don't like, suggest new ideas or try to improve things. Guide new players instead of robbing and killing them.


Want a better future? Start looking at yourselves.

[Rusty]

RS5 falling a part ...

It's not failing apart it's lacking bug fixes that are needed in the places that really need fixed.

The biggest fail to me is that there are no events happening, almost completly dead on that front. No Lottos. Things that many people would attend to. I remember in RS4 how fun it was to participate in those kind of things. But this is a result of the leaders of Argonath don't want to help get the economic rolling. I mean, some 10k events every week could have been sponsored by the server.

We've had players come to us for funding for various projects, some not so good some that we support.  A more recent request was from Ramo to get the Destruction Derby again.  If he keeps his activity up we'll review funding for the event.  It's not that we DON'T want to get it rolling it's that we can't just spawn in money like RS4 and start holding events.  We are VERY open to players requesting funding, a well laid out plan can be forwarded to any HQ member.

Lotto's were a massive thing, missed by everyone I hoped it would be back as-well as it was the thing most people looked forward to in times of lack of funds.  Argonath's birthday is closing in two weeks today to be exact, I do plan on holding events then prizes that will interest pretty much everyone.  (if rest of HQ agrees lol)

We're supposed to be a community and at times it doesn't feel like it, it's like we're split down the middle.  Argonath has had to much bad this year as it is, don't need to pile more on support the community you first arrived to even if it isn't like it was.

[Teddy]

We're listening. Proposed ideas have been reviewed; some continue to do so. The scripts aren't the only thing that require changing; the general mentality needs to change from the players.

[TinMan]

That is great that the administration is wanting to make changes but I am going to use this expression of....are we actually putting money where our mouth is? You can say all the great things you want but is it actually going to get done and happen. I remember back in 2009 when RS3 running and I could say that the server was hard to play due to lag. However a year later or so RS4 was  not all the great at first either but when when samp updated from 0.2 to 0.3c or so it was a lot better. Everything was more synchronized. I am not an expert on all this stuff but I believe that RS5 is currently laggy due to the server running a lot more scripts than never before. RS4 actually worked because the community made it work. It was actually one of the best systems than any other roleplay server has. I mean it was unique. Anyway maybe re fixing everything and reducing the amount of scripts and getting the economy will help get Argonath RPG back on its feet. So we can all enjoy an enjoyable game.

[Arslan]

For me Rs5 has been great so far but developers of any game work on it to make user friendly and easy for players to play. For me personally having a RP character as a cop, the jurisdiction thing is ridiculous. I would understand if we had like 100+ players but we're on 30-45 average. It is really annoying and can take up to 15 minutes just to get on cop duty with the right jurisdiction which is LS. The choice of teleporting helped a little but it is still VERY frustrating and annoying to have to wait all the time and re-duty like a million times. Either jurisdiction should be removed or we should get a choice on which one we want.

I don't think there is anyone on the server who RPs as a cop likes the jurisdiction system.

I also agree with too many commands. It is too complex and again just frustrating. I think nearly everything in RS4 was straight forward, I would like that to be the case in RS5 too.

[Simon_sullivan]

For me Rs5 has been great so far but developers of any game work on it to make user friendly and easy for players to play. For me personally having a RP character as a cop, the jurisdiction thing is ridiculous. I would understand if we had like 100+ players but we're on 30-45 average. It is really annoying and can take up to 15 minutes just to get on cop duty with the right jurisdiction which is LS. The choice of teleporting helped a little but it is still VERY frustrating and annoying to have to wait all the time and re-duty like a million times. Either jurisdiction should be removed or we should get a choice on which one we want.

I don't think there is anyone on the server who RPs as a cop likes the jurisdiction system.

I also agree with too many commands. It is too complex and again just frustrating. I think nearly everything in RS4 was straight forward, I would like that to be the case in RS5 too.

I totally agree 100% that the jurisdiction must go, but if there is one thing that I disagree on is the removing of the commands I think that it is perfect the waay it is and I think it could have been much harder to use but they actually made it user-friendly to need users and easier to input.

[Arslan]

I totally agree 100% that the jurisdiction must go, but if there is one thing that I disagree on is the removing of the commands I think that it is perfect the waay it is and I think it could have been much harder to use but they actually made it user-friendly to need users and easier to input.

Well the commands issue is arguable but I don't understand why the jurisdiction system is here still here. It has been opposed from day 1.

[Teddy]

That is great that the administration is wanting to make changes but I am going to use this expression of....are we actually putting money where our mouth is? You can say all the great things you want but is it actually going to get done and happen. I remember back in 2009 when RS3 running and I could say that the server was hard to play due to lag. However a year later or so RS4 was  not all the great at first either but when when samp updated from 0.2 to 0.3c or so it was a lot better. Everything was more synchronized. I am not an expert on all this stuff but I believe that RS5 is currently laggy due to the server running a lot more scripts than never before. RS4 actually worked because the community made it work. It was actually one of the best systems than any other roleplay server has. I mean it was unique. Anyway maybe re fixing everything and reducing the amount of scripts and getting the economy will help get Argonath RPG back on its feet. So we can all enjoy an enjoyable game.

Performance wise; once RS5 is fully patched up it will perform 2 to 3 times better than RS4. We are use more efficient data storage methods and have drastically reduced the dependencies on timers which are very well know for their significant contributions to lag.  I can list a handful of posts; including updates done by myself today where the changes made were a direct result of listening to a majority of the community.

Like you said.. the community made RS4 work. The community, including us, the developers, the admins, etc, can make RS5 work. You need to be willing to work with us and come forward to the table with a very detailed overview like you have. In the beginning some here came off with "RS5 sucks" and nothing more.. what do we have to work with here? Then shortly after we got "this could be better", "we think it should be this way", "what about changing this to this because of this". Those are the type of statements that get positive discussion going. We, or at least I, tone out negative bulshit so if that seems to be the general idea of the post I will skip it and any good points that may be in it.

The point is here: RS5 will perform better once we get the bugs fixed. We are humans however, at least, most of us are, Gimli might be from another planet.. strongly debatable.. point is we have real lives outside and as much as I'd love to I, and I know the others are the same as well; simply cannot dedicate 110% to scripting.

We will get the bugs fixed. We will listen to your ideas. However, listen does not mean they will get done... but we will read them and we will think themover. We make RS5 for you, and us, the community. It should be the community ideas at the foundation as most of it already is. But as we've found out not everything went as smoothly as we had visioned.

Bare with us. We will get through this as a community.

[.Matthew.]

I don't get a point of realistic economy, game is meant to be game, a place where you have fun and enjoy being.
What's the point of realistic circulating economy? what are it's positives? I think most of the players agree with RS5's efficient coding, but we agree with RS4's style of simpleness.
Players with worse knowledge of english won't be able to understand all of the systems as cards, wallets, wallet money, bank money, group money, hand money, ATM money...
The latest update where /send /withdraw, /deposit and wallet money was removed is amazing, still the lottery should be brought back, if you aim for realistic economy as it is in real life, then there's lottery also in real life. It would keep circulating from state to the one who won it and the one who won it would be buying things, which keeps it circulating as you imagined (if you imagined it so).

[Teddy]

A lottery is something I can produce; but it would be based on an actual lottery system as in the "jackpot" isn't defined by a manager but rather the ticket purchases. If nobody wins the roll then the current jackpot is added to the next and so on and so forth. The price will go down for the price of tickets; but the chances of winning will go down. We will increase the number from 1 to 100; up to from 1 to 1000.

I'll speak to HQ about this and get their approval before going forward.

[Mr. Goobii]

It would be cool if you could held local lotteries in like, casinos.

[EliteTerm]

we're the only one who can save the SA:MP Argonath RPG, and we better start doing so by playing and helping the scripters, not being f**king assholes and discouraging them to even work on it any further.

Agreed, but..

I believe that the current situation of RS5 might as well be influenced by pretty much being abandoned by Gandalf and Aragorn, since these people don't even show up on the forums anymore

Never, ever spread words saying that RON & Ronnel has abandoned us. If that was the case, Argonath RPG as a whole would cease to exist, but didn't. Everybody here seems to forget that there's the real world we have to deal with, not just Argonath. I honestly don't want players new and old to start bashing on them for not being around, it's rude and disgusting.

[Stivi]

I still think we are lacking what is not meant to be scripted.