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Malaysia airliner crashes in east Ukraine near Russia border

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Reply #30 on: July 18, 2014, 11:21:39 pm
First they suspected it were 25 Dutch civilians. Now it's turned into 193. Not that nationality really matters but it makes the impact on the Dutch people bigger. Some of the victims lived within a 20 kilometer radius of me. My friends dentist assistant was one of them.. that's how close things get. I know that in the middle east people die on a daily basis and in larger numbers but for a peaceful country as The Netherlands this is quite big..

Best wishes to the families of the victims.



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Reply #31 on: July 18, 2014, 11:30:46 pm
First they suspected it were 25 Dutch civilians. Now it's turned into 193. Not that nationality really matters but it makes the impact on the Dutch people bigger. Some of the victims lived within a 20 kilometer radius of me. My friends dentist assistant was one of them.. that's how close things get. I know that in the middle east people die on a daily basis and in larger numbers but for a peaceful country as The Netherlands this is quite big..

Best wishes to the families of the victims.
My mothers boyfriend knew a whole family that was in the plane.



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Reply #32 on: July 19, 2014, 12:17:48 am
Who else could have it been? The Rebels? With no technology to do so? The Ukrainians? They have enough problems already and do you really think that after all the support it's receiving to do such a risk and shoot down the plane and blame it on the rebels? What if someone backtracks them and everyone sides with Russia?

Maybe someone who have experience with shooting down civilian planes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Wait for some facts, don't s*it without having any clue... Don't be blinded by hate toward Russians...

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Reply #33 on: July 19, 2014, 08:00:03 am
Serbians will always be supporting russians no matter what, even tho Russians do nothing to Serbia except giving few overused parts for vehicles.



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Reply #34 on: July 19, 2014, 08:22:56 am
Quote from: .Matthew. link=topic=106888.msg16998h54#msg1699854 date=1405749603
Serbians will always be supporting russians no matter what, even tho Russians do nothing to Serbia except giving few overused parts for vehicles.
We don't need benefits from them so we support them. Same colours, same religion. Brotherhood.



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Reply #35 on: July 19, 2014, 09:35:03 am
Russian involvement is obvious. There's no way the Donetsk and Luhansk seperatists could have gotten their hands on such technology. Ukrainians didn't have any deployed near the border either. It's obvious. If it will be confirmed that Russia was involved, European Union should quit being a f**king coward pussy and discontinue any diplomatic relations with Russia instead of threatening with obviously ineffective sanctions that Putin couldn't give less shits about. No self-respecting country, not to mention a super power like EU, should ever have anything to do with terrorists. And this incident has made it more than clear that Putin and his whole Kremlin are nothing but international terrorists.
The only obvious thing is that you got no idea about the conflict, and that you're being biased in a way that you'll ignore all the facts, cause you're more into propaganda then actually discussing things.


Serbians will always be supporting russians no matter what, even tho Russians do nothing to Serbia except giving few overused parts for vehicles.
We don't even get those overrused parts of vehicles. :lol: Its normal for us to be supporting Russians, but not just cause of our traditional connection with them, yet cause we felt on our own skin, how injustice and brutal are Americans(not the people, the Government), when ever their interests demands to. Ask people from Iraq, Afganistan, Lybia, Entire ex-Yugoslavia, Vietnam, entire Latin America, ask Ukrainians as well.

But tts important to stay objective when discussing and handle only the proven facts, everything else is just propaganda, like this Rytuklis.


About the subject, first of all its a terrible tragedy with all the bs happening, its sad to see more people lose their life for the solo purpose to attach someone something massive as this.

There's alot of question to be asked about this:
-Why was the plane flying that area, by the order of Ukranian Air control?
-Why were there Ukranian suhoy planes close to the same aircraft?
-How did Ukranians know few seconds after the plane was down that fact (as witness by Spanish Air control) and shared to other Air Controls?
-MALAYSIAN AIRLINES? This is one of the most important facts in this whole mess, that shouldn't be passed out just easily, yet constantly asked is it fucking possible its the same type of the plane and same airlines as the one missing?
-Did Russian rebels shot it down by land-sky system, or did Ukranians shot it down by their planes ( who were confirmed to be in the air in that time)?
-What did the OEBS announced about the dead bodies, and their conditions?
-How come the plane  took the same route as Putin's plane?

"Follow the cash flow" is the way you'll find out who launder money, when it comes to geo-politics,
you can apply the same theory as "follow the interest flow"
And most important questions: WHO'S GETTING THE BIGGEST INTEREST IN THIS HAPPENING, now, at that area, in this moment, with all this mass media propaganda machine working non stop?


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Reply #36 on: July 19, 2014, 11:22:02 am
Where you getting this information from?

The plane might have been over the conflict zone but also over the restricted air zone
And this flight's route was perpendicular with Putin's flight route, it's like saying a plane flying Berlin - Rome took the same route as a plane flying London - Vienna



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Reply #37 on: July 19, 2014, 01:46:02 pm
Serbians will always be supporting russians no matter what, even tho Russians do nothing to Serbia except giving few overused parts for vehicles.

I'll be the first one to tell that they are retards if I see some hard evidence it was them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812

"Ukraine eventually admitted that the disaster was probably caused by an errant missile fired by its armed forces."



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Reply #38 on: July 19, 2014, 03:59:28 pm
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Reply #39 on: July 19, 2014, 04:10:37 pm
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Reply #40 on: July 19, 2014, 04:34:09 pm
 
I personally trust this reliable source of information.
I personally don't care in who and what you believe.

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http://cyberwarzone.com/mh17-ukrainian-security-service-sbu-seized-discussions-air-traffic-control/


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Reply #41 on: July 19, 2014, 06:59:29 pm
Condolences to all the families who have lost a member of their family from this tragedy.

Russia has questions to answer about their funding of pro-Russian separatists.



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Reply #42 on: July 19, 2014, 07:03:09 pm
Russia has questions to answer about their funding of pro-Russian separatists.

To who and why?

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Reply #43 on: July 19, 2014, 07:57:44 pm
I am really pissed off by the particular incident, whoever did it.... should pay for it!

There was a family on the plane I know, I don't know them extremely well as close friends, but I knew them. My cousin lives in Breda, city in the Netherlands and was in class with one of the boys who died during the crash. I've seen them on birthdays and when I visited my cousin; as I see him quite a lot. I'm not sure what to say about that, as I never experienced something like this. I feel angry and sometimes I just want my country to gather up an extremely big amount of soldiers and go there and defend the crash area whatever it takes.

Imagine these families without there loved ones, imagine friends, colleagues.... I have no words for this. I want those who are responsible for this to suffer, to feel the same pain they give to people (you never gonna reach that level though). I have strong feelings of revanche, but that's just emotions. I know I am not the one who lost his close friends or family, but with my feelings known; imagine the others.




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Reply #44 on: July 19, 2014, 08:01:08 pm
It really does not matter which side of the conflict you support. The thing is, whoever did this is a fucking monster, and shall be dealt with. And that applies if it turns out that Ukrainians shot the plane, too. Nobody has the right to take 200 innocent unarmed souls because of someone not being able to deal with things like a human being should.

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