Let's all chip in.

[Luke]

Okay so time has come and everyone is back to college and school etc. This now means the servers are becoming less populated then they usually are which is kind of depressing as now the RP level is decreasing and people basically don't want to play anymore, its rather depressing as remembering the populated Argonath servers (all of them) with the funny RP's and everyone having a good time, now we currently have 10-15 people in game these people are either on fire duty or AFK which is kind of depressing as now a few years back we easy would have 30-40 people there. I know we have had some issues lately which have dropped the player count, the hacking situation etc. but we cannot go down like this, we have had a really great 8 years only and I have enjoyed most of my time here, but I myself don't want Argonath to end up finishing like this.

This is where we need to help Argonath and the servers out, we need to come to an idea in which we can get RS4 players back, and make the server a little active, I myself want to do all that I can to make this happen. I have spoken with Gimli(xcasio) and he has came to the thought of possibly gathering all the people who haven't been active on RS5 and haven't returned since RS4. The way he is in which going to do this is by gathering the emails of the people via the forum and sending them a "hey, why don't you come back?" message, this message will probably consist of reasons why to return and basically try and get the old people back.

But we need to get more ideas in which we can make the player count improve, hope you all can help out, if you have any ideas please feel free to say...

Luke.

[Alsatian]

First off, it was good to speak to you today in-game. 

I think the problem, in terms of the old players returning, is simply because most of them have reached an age now where real life responsibilites dictate their time. I know this isn't the case for everyone but I myself have only been able to drop in a few times over the last week (after a god knows how long absence) because I'm simply too busy.

I think the age of GTA SA (and, by extension, SAMP) also plays a factor. It's an old game now that isn't as popular as it was 2-3 years ago. The release of of V is also another thing to consider.

It's a real shame but it happens. It would be nice if we could gather a few of the older faces one last time or something though.

I wouldn't worry about the Argonath itself though. The server has seen periods of decreased player counts before and prevailed as strong as ever. The community's been around for about 8 years now and I see more good years ahead.

[Luke]

Nice to speak to you also man.

I know what you mean about the player count besides of people to old now, but hey, not everyone has a job and people mainly might have left due to RS5 I just wanna hope to get the people back who actully are still here forum wise but don't actually come in game 

And for the player count, there is another server (not going to say names) what most of you know and they have 300+ online now, we just need to work out a way to bring new/old people back/in  :/

[Traser]

Nice to speak to you also man.

I know what you mean about the player count besides of people to old now, but hey, not everyone has a job and people mainly might have left due to RS5 I just wanna hope to get the people back who actully are still here forum wise but don't actually come in game 

And for the player count, there is another server (not going to say names) what most of you know and they have 300+ online now, we just need to work out a way to bring new/old people back/in  :/

And they are getting recruited by our old players..

But meh, you see me online everyday a few hours!


Also, me and brian are still busy with the advertisement team!

[Luke]

And they are getting recruited by our old players..

But meh, you see me online everyday a few hours!

And thats the problem we need to kind of building a way to compete and get our old players back.

I always see you online and visa versa im depressed about the way SAPD is turning thats another thing..

[MikeSangelo]

...im depressed about the way SAPD is turning thats another thing..

I'm not. You really have to look back at the beginning stages of RS5 and to where we are today in terms of improvement, we have gotten a lot done, and that's not stopping.

As for the original purpose of the topic, it is an aging game, our original players got much older, myself included, and time is no longer a freedom we can enjoy like the old days. Hopefully some clever advertising can wave through some fresh faces.

[Luke]

I'm not. You really have to look back at the beginning stages of RS5 and to where we are today in terms of improvement, we have gotten a lot done, and that's not stopping.

As for the original purpose of the topic, it is an aging game, our original players got much older, myself included, and time is no longer a freedom we can enjoy like the old days. Hopefully some clever advertising can wave through some fresh faces.

Yeah I understand what you mean, as for the SAPD I mean like the lack of dedication certain players don't want to do, like ogranized patrols and such, but back to the original topic, Thats mainly what we need some really clever advertisement skills but then we have to all work together to combine our ideas, and get us back on the map. 

[Dennis.]

I don't know why reset happened! For me its the only thing which made old players to leave. Why they need to start everythibg from begining when they worked a few years to get what they have in rs4.
RS5 is destroing Criminal Familys, no more of them anymore. People now are interested in joining clans and groups. everyone works, and dont work to rp but work to win money. Money for them is everything... RP level need years to return as in RS4.... People are bored... They are leaving server to.... I remember from Rs4 that everytime i loged in in served, I didnt have time to make money or work as i work now, I allways had fun RPing with my friend etc etcs... Now everyone need money and they dont want to RP. From 15 people online only 5 of them are aviable to RP... we lost ELS Conecta, for me best Rper group that Argonath has ever had.  we lost Stracci, Ancelotti, Sforza, etc etc... RS5is  a great script but dat reset destroyed everything. we need another 7years to be again like we were.

[Dennis.]

I started everything from begining and What I did those months went down from a bug. I dont wont to start again from begining, so if it don't get sloved i will leave to.

[Luke]

I don't know why reset happened! For me its the only thing which made old players to leave. Why they need to start everythibg from begining when they worked a few years to get what they have in rs4.
RS5 is destroing Criminal Familys, no more of them anymore. People now are interested in joining clans and groups. everyone works, and dont work to rp but work to win money. Money for them is everything... RP level need years to return as in RS4.... People are bored... They are leaving server to.... I remember from Rs4 that everytime i loged in in served, I didnt have time to make money or work as i work now, I allways had fun RPing with my friend etc etcs... Now everyone need money and they dont want to RP. From 15 people online only 5 of them are aviable to RP... we lost ELS Conecta, for me best Rper group that Argonath has ever had.  we lost Stracci, Ancelotti, Sforza, etc etc... RS5is  a great script but dat reset destroyed everything. we need another 7years to be again like we were.

I feel your pain, I just don't want it to end like this, I like RS5 I trully do but since the big move over, alot of people just gave up faith they dont belive in money is not everything, like dont get me wrong I love having cash on RS5 its fun, but money dont make RP better, we really need the old Sopranos, the Gvardia's, The Corleones, all that good stuff back, all we have now for RP groups is [GSF] and they have no enemy groups apart from SAPD, which then isnt really RP as its just /su, but yeah, If all we need a balla group or something to make RPs with the groups we have, beacuse then people will come to the server they will see rp's happening and they will see what we do, and they will want to stay.

At the moment we have new players who join, they usually come in, either DM or ram the sh*t out of people, we need people to actully sit down with them and help them around, as at the moment we have new faces daily but then we dont see them again, we need to make these people stay the new ones.

I started everything from begining and What I did those months went down from a bug. I dont wont to start again from begining, so if it don't get sloved i will leave to.

As for your bug issue, you have to just wait as they have said on your topic they are working on it, I have seen many admins/leaders checking it out, The only thing I can say is just wait around for a bit and see what the conclusion is. There is no point leaving over a silly bug, after all we are here to RP and to have fun not to care about assets and cash, I hope your issue gets resolved and you get refunded.

[Stivi]

Motivation. Most people rather chill and play LoL/or any other game instead of rs5. They're all sitting in front of their PC, just not going IG. Let's be honest, it's boring.

[Gimli]

Nice initiative.

Some interesting stats:
Month / Unique Players / Average minutes played per day

12-2013   2876   83.3004
1-2014   5586   84.5850
2-2014   4212   86.1227
3-2014   6145   106.7385
4-2014   10466   91.0188
5-2014   8474   104.3946
6-2014   7208   110.4699
7-2014   7337   117.4954
8-2014   5814   83.0693

The number of unique players hasn't decreased that much actually, but the time the average player spends in-game has. The downtime in late August was obviously a huge blow tho.

[Mikal]

Everyone plays Argonath MeinKraft now.

[Khm]

And for the player count, there is another server (not going to say names) what most of you know and they have 300+ online now, we just need to work out a way to bring new/old people back/in  :/

That's because the server makes you pay real-life money to get more stats than the other  players around the server so they won't just "let" their money go like that on a SA:MP server and just leave, they will stay. All the other servers which i witnessed have a weak player count (more weak than SA:MP Argonath...) just because GTA SA is being so old and the release of GTA V but i still understand your point.

P.s someone change this font of the forum back, its burning my eyes 

[TiMoN]

Why not make an advertisement on the SA-MP forum(sa-mp.com)? List all features, it does attract a lot of players.