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EU will not object to UK leaving the union

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on: November 03, 2014, 06:33:38 pm
Chancellor Angela Merkel has reportedly warned David Cameron she would rather see the UK leave the EU than compromise over the principle of free movement.

Der Spiegel news magazine quotes German government sources as saying she feared the UK was near a "point of no return".

Chancellor George Osborne dismissed the story as speculation about how Germany may react to a future UK policy shift.

But he insisted ministers would act in the national interest in addressing public concerns about immigration.

He told BBC Breakfast that concerns about abuses of the benefit system were causing "great unhappiness" but the UK would approach future negotiations in a "calm and rational" way.

Mr Cameron wants to renegotiate the terms of the UK's continued membership before holding an in-out referendum.

The prime minister has insisted that freedom of movement of workers would be "at the very heart of my renegotiation strategy for Europe".

But Mrs Merkel is said by the magazine to have made clear she will withdraw her support for the UK's continued EU membership if he continues to push for migration reform which requires fundamental changes to the principles of the organisation.

The German chancellor's warning to Mr Cameron is reported to have come in a meeting on the fringes of the latest EU summit in Brussels last week.

Der Spiegel, quoting sources within the German chancellor's office and German foreign ministry, said this was the first time Mrs Merkel had acknowledged that the UK's exit from the EU was possible.

"Should Cameron persist (in this plan), Chancellor Angela Merkel would abandon her efforts to keep Britain in the EU," it quoted the sources as saying.

"With that a point of no return would be reached. That would be it then."

According to the Sunday Times, Germany has already rejected a proposal to impose quotas on low-skilled EU migrants by limiting the national insurance numbers issued to them.

Der Spiegel reported that Mr Cameron was now looking at a plan to stretch the EU rules "to their limits" in order to ban migrants who do not have a job, and to deport those who are unable to support themselves after three months.

'No iron lady'
Conservative MP David Davis said Mrs Merkel was an "important" figure in Europe but "she is not an iron lady", suggesting she was also likely to come under pressure from within Germany to restrict immigration within Europe from countries with lower average incomes.

He told BBC's Radio 4's Today programme that any British official calling for a "German compliant" re-negotiating approach should be removed from their job.

On Sunday, Conservative MP and former justice secretary Kenneth Clarke defended EU migration.

"If you're going to have a sensible single market, if we want to compete with the Americans and the Chinese and so on, we need the free movement of labour," he told BBC's Sunday Politics.

A Downing Street spokesman said Mr Cameron would make a speech on immigration before Christmas, and stressed "you can be sure he will always put Britain first."

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Reply #1 on: November 03, 2014, 09:58:39 pm
Good! Lets get there hell out of there!

Vote UKIP! Or vote Conservatives to stop Labour getting into power this time around, and then vote UKIP next time. :rolleyes:

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Reply #2 on: November 04, 2014, 02:12:54 pm
Would be weird if uk left :p
EU map should look umm , unbalanced , if UK is gray  :D
Anyway , its their choice

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Reply #3 on: November 04, 2014, 06:21:34 pm
EU is beneficial for Lithuania, because unlike in UK, people don't migrate here, we migrate to UK :D:D. Since we have no immigration problems EU is nothing but beneficial, since most roads, towns, historical architectures here were reconstructed by the EU :D

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Reply #4 on: November 04, 2014, 06:38:01 pm
EU is nothing but beneficial, since most roads, towns, historical architectures here were reconstructed by the EU :D
Which the UK and Netherlands paid for, obviously.




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Reply #5 on: November 04, 2014, 09:33:43 pm
EU is beneficial for Lithuania, because unlike in UK, people don't migrate here, we migrate to UK :D:D. Since we have no immigration problems EU is nothing but beneficial, since most roads, towns, historical architectures here were reconstructed by the EU :D
Thank you for helping me get an even bit more enthusiastic about leaving the EU.

The EU is nothing but restrictions for the UK, we put £60,000,000 of British tax payers money into it PER DAY and what do we get in return?
- Fishing restrictions.
- Farming restrictions.
- Construction restrictions.
- Energy production restrictions.
- Laws that we don't want, need or vote for.
- Massive uncontrolled amounts of immigrants.
- Terrorists can't be deported due to EU 'human rights laws'.

The simple fact remains, British people did not vote for what the EU is today, they voted for a trade union where different countries economies could benefit from each other and now look at what it is, the only people that the EU benefits are politicians and poor EU countries at the bottom of the food chain, the rest of the large countries like the UK are forced to suffer, the UK has been stripped of it's cultural identity since joining the EU and that 'stripping' is speeding up, in 50 years the UK won't be anything like it is today, or was 15 years ago, it will be just as poor as countries like Greece and Ireland, who the EU also screwed over and now has on a tight lead.

The UK doesn't need the EU, the EU needs the UK, despite Adolf Merkel's bluffs.
Lets get out of it.

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Reply #6 on: November 07, 2014, 06:40:58 pm
I'm in agreement with our withdrawal but do I support UKIP? Not in the slightest.



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Reply #7 on: November 07, 2014, 09:47:22 pm
do I support UKIP? Not in the slightest.
Why? They may not be the best but they do seem to be the only non-racist British for British party, British politics is really getting boring, the UK always has the same party's in power, labour comes in, messes everything up, conservatives come in next, mess things up more, fix some things before they get kicked out, labour comes back in, and repeat... It'd be nice to have a change.

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Reply #8 on: November 08, 2014, 09:39:14 pm
Why? They may not be the best but they do seem to be the only non-racist British for British party
Ahaha.



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Reply #9 on: November 08, 2014, 09:50:08 pm
Fuck UKIP, Fuck BNP.




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Reply #10 on: November 09, 2014, 11:09:57 pm
Ahaha.
What's funny? :uhm:

Fuck UKIP
I'm sure all the thousands of people who voted UKIP into the EU Parliament feel the same way.. :rolleyes:

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Reply #11 on: November 09, 2014, 11:45:07 pm
The whole of UKIP as a party smells of xenophobia. Okay, you want out of Europe but UKIP's campaign to do so seems to be fuelled by total dislike for certain nationalities.



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Reply #12 on: November 09, 2014, 11:49:47 pm
Labour = Sit on your couch, we'll give you money
Conservative = Get your fucking ass up and work for your money


UKIP is basically BNP and EDL merged  :lol:



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Reply #13 on: November 10, 2014, 01:24:08 am
Labour = Sit on your couch, we'll give you money
Conservative = Get your f**king ass up and work for your money
Labour = Welcome immigrants! Come destroy some more British culture, ohey, there's an old church over there, rip it down, build a car wash on it, we'll pay your staff job seekers whilst you pay them 75% less than minimum wage on the side!
Conservatives = UKIP's doing quite well lately, so I guess we should copy some of their policies.

UKIP is basically BNP and EDL merged  :lol:
What a load of BS... If anything the BNP and EDL are merging to make something completely different, and why not, I'm not racist, but if it makes all the hundreds of thousands of immigrants pouring into the UK per year feel unsettled, why not?

I've had enough of mass immigration and religious plagues spilling in from abroad, I remember how this country was when I was younger, now I look at it.... It's like there's no borders at all, everything has been fucked up by mass immigration, and politicians of course.

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Reply #14 on: November 10, 2014, 01:57:42 pm
It certainly would help the EU to see the UK fail and crawl back.
Want to leave the EU? Great but not just removing the liabilities but also the benefits.
No more free trade for UK products exporting ot the EU, they will be equal to China.
No more sobsidizing green enrgy by EU budget.
No more benefits for holiday houses in France.
Requiring visa to go on holiday to Spain or follow the football team.

And England still keep their immigration from Pakistan and India, only those people can no longer move abroad in to the EU.

Lets do this... :gand:

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