Double Standards discussion

[jovanca]

Well when double standards were mentioned on another topic, staff didn't seem to know what we were talking about and topic got closed, so i wanted to continue discussion in order to find solutions to this problem. I got a lot of examples of this but i'll rather not post them because certain people might get offended.

[Sandi]

Hopefully we will find a solution

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Well when double standards were mentioned on another topic, staff didn't seem to know what we were talking about and topic got closed, so i wanted to continue discussion in order to find solutions to this problem. I got a lot of examples of this but i'll rather not post them because certain people might get offended.

I don't even...

[jovanca]

Whats the problem monte?

[Acika]

On what double standards are you pointing on ?

[jovanca]

The way admins punish.

[Huntsman]

The double standarts is a relaly big issue in this community IMO, throughout my three years of service here I saw them everywhere, starting from ARPD ending with the Admin team.

[Brian]

Topic unlocked, players have the right to show their concerns if they do it in a proper manner.

[stormeus]

It would be easier to discuss this if someone would kindly elaborate on what double standards are being enforced instead of parroting "there are double standards."

1. Who is creating/enforcing double standards?
2. What group is being treated more leniently and why?
3. What group is being treated more harshly and why?

[jovanca]

I'm talking about the staff having double standards when it comes to punishing (does not include every staff member, ofcourse).

[Acika]

It would be easier to discuss this if someone would kindly elaborate on what double standards are being enforced instead of parroting "there are double standards."

1. Who is creating/enforcing double standards?
2. What group is being treated more leniently and why?
3. What group is being treated more harshly and why?

1.
-Every admin has it's own rules/they understand and apply rules differently.
-They used or still are part of the group which they protect. Example: Cyril - Ballas; Devin, Abe, Charlie.. - Corleone; Rest - protecting cops
That's probably not itentional but its happening often because its natural and stronger than them.
2. Read answer 1.
3. Enemies of groups listed in answer 1.

Here's one fresh example:
Ballas come in front of Luciano HQ, Luciano get banned. Lucianos come to GS9, Luciano get banned.

I've experienced that many times because my group has a rule to never attack first and on the end its always our fault.
While i was playing this didnt change. I hope that next generation will feel some changes for the good of the server.
 

[ssaammee]

I'm talking about the staff having double standards when it comes to punishing (does not include every staff member, ofcourse).

I wouldn't mind hearing you explain that in nuanced words.
I see it like this: Admins are actually ignoring many different rulebreaks. Some are rougher than others.
But I understand why two friends goofing around killing the other didn't end up with the same punishment as a family DMing another IC.


This shootout rule is put aside.

[Acika]

I wouldn't mind hearing you explain that in nuanced words.
I see it like this: Admins are actually ignoring many different rulebreaks. Some are rougher than others.
But I understand why two friends goofing around killing the other didn't end up with the same punishment as a family DMing another IC.


This shootout rule is put aside.

It has nothing to do with ur example.
Here's one example for you.

Abe calls Jovanca a f**king twat and asshole then he bans him.
Jovanca is banned and Abe is still an admin because it was perfectly fine to do what he did.

And regarding your group go on that families and gangs at war topic there you have it better explained.

[jovanca]

i've had different experiences, not same as those acika mentioned, but still the double standards were obviously present. if some1 wants to hear, i can pm some of my examples, but i wont post them here because some people might get offended.

[Acika]

i've had different experiences, not same as those acika mentioned, but still the double standards were obviously present. if some1 wants to hear, i can pm some of my examples, but i wont post them here because some people might get offended.

Why ? Topic is unlocked to point on those doing wrong for the good of the server.