Double Standards discussion

[Kostas]

Do you seriously think that this is going to change anything???

[PulseEffect]

The double standarts is a relaly big issue in this community IMO, throughout my three years of service here I saw them everywhere, starting from ARPD ending with the Admin team.

My thoughts exactly...

[jovanca]

we can atleast try

[[Rstar]Peter]

Conspiracy theory...

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Rest assured you will get the change you want.
All you have to do is go make your own community and you'll be free =D

Until then suffer!
Bwahahahahahahaha


No... but srsly


this thread will not achieve anything.

[Acika]

Rest assured you will get the change you want.
All you have to do is go make your own community and you'll be free =D

Until then suffer!
Bwahahahahahahaha


No... but srsly


this thread will not achieve anything.

Of course it wont, but it cant get worse than this 

[Marcel]

Good to see a thread where this issue can be discussed in a civil manner. I hope that something good will come out.

[ssaammee]

Saying admins suck!!1! will never solve anything. Sure, this community has its dark areas, like any community. Calm down and come with something concrete if you really want a change.

[Pandalink]

I don't think a single thread is going to change what has been true for over half a decade here and for much longer on any other gaming server, chat room, workplace, school, etc (insert any moderated/regulated environment here).

It's just human nature to support those you're closer to. It's the reason having a reasonable number of criminal admins alongside the many cop admins back in the day was a good idea, because they balance each other and discuss issues more evenly (e.g. in admin chat) before committing to a course of action.
Without that, you have people making shitty judgement calls because nobody is there to tell them that they're wrong. This is true for any given group - criminals, cops, Corleones, Ballas, ARPD groups, you name it. There's a reason that groups with no admins in their leadership were generally weak and ineffective - they got screwed constantly with nobody to defend them or explain their actions.

Balance is what you need. However, to achieve that balance you must acknowledge the existence of bias to start with.

[Devin]

It always seems to be the banned players that state administration are bias and corrupt.

[jovanca]

Rest assured you will get the change you want.
All you have to do is go make your own community and you'll be free =D

Until then suffer!
Bwahahahahahahaha


No... but srsly


this thread will not achieve anything.

neither will negative comments

Saying admins suck!!1! will never solve anything. Sure, this community has its dark areas, like any community. Calm down and come with something concrete if you really want a change.

if that was pointed at me - i never said that any of admins suck.

I don't think a single thread is going to change what has been true for over half a decade here and for much longer on any other gaming server, chat room, workplace, school, etc (insert any moderated/regulated environment here).

It's just human nature to support those you're closer to. It's the reason having a reasonable number of criminal admins alongside the many cop admins back in the day was a good idea, because they balance each other and discuss issues more evenly (e.g. in admin chat) before committing to a course of action.
Without that, you have people making shitty judgement calls because nobody is there to tell them that they're wrong. This is true for any given group - criminals, cops, Corleones, Ballas, ARPD groups, you name it. There's a reason that groups with no admins in leadership were generally weak and ineffective - they got screwed constantly with nobody to defend them or explain their actions.

Balance is what you need. However, to achieve that balance you must acknowledge the existence of bias to start with.
Achieve that and you're on your way to success.

there has to be a line which must not be crossed, i dont everything can be perfect here but things can get better and its up to us to make them better or worse. if admins can't separate their duty from their personal wishes they should either step back and let others handle or be objective and do what has to be done.

[Kostas]

It always seems to be the banned players that state administration are bias and corrupt.

I'm not banned, and I've never been.
Admins are biased

Something else I'd like to note out, ever heard about chain reactions? When a single action leads to a set of reactions which could also form a line? Well let me explain this. Administrator X warns/says to player Y that he did something which he clearly didn't. Y gets upset coz he didn't do anything so starts behaving in an offensive way. X further punishes Y because of his reaction to his wrong action...
Think about that before you issue a punishment because of a reaction...

[jovanca]

It always seems to be the banned players that state administration are bias and corrupt.

take a look at my in-game stated ban reason, and look into my ban issued by megamidget few months ago, the irony

[Mikal]

I once got told not to talk 00C in /em because the admin "doesn't like it".
I once got warned for calling cops "pigs" in /l because it was "flaming groups".
I once got temp banned for "trolling" for /ad news reporting about a very senior member car killing citizens with a tank.

Double standards and made up rules are common within the administration, these examples I stated all happend in a single month.

[Slavik]

First /em is not OOC chat.
Second Calling cops "pigs" is an insult so if you were warned for that, good.
Should read the rules.